Continuation Part 2 - Discussion of the Amanda Knox case

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Bruce Fisher said:
Alt+F4, when they come to silence you, there will be no one left to stand up and defend your free speech.
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Of course there are legitimate reasons to be concerned about the suppression of free speech, but there is no basis for this concern when the source is a “news report” without corroboration, independent verification or fact-checking.

Both Frank and Candace have passed off rumors, half-truths and innuendo as legitimate reporting. They both disregard two of the most basic ethical standards of journalism - accuracy and objectivity. Those who believe in AK and RS’s innocence believe what they report without question then complain that it’s an inaccurate, biased media that turned AK into a, ”crazed, sexually deviant, drug-addled murderer” Quite the double standard.
 
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Alt+F4 said:
Of course there are legitimate reasons to be concerned about the suppression of free speech, but there is no basis for this concern when the source is a “news report” without corroboration, independent verification or fact-checking.
Both Frank and Candace have passed off rumors, half-truths and innuendo as legitimate reporting. They both disregard two of the most basic ethical standards of journalism - accuracy and objectivity.
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Alt+F4,

Can you back up your claims with examples and citations? Thanks in advance.
 
halides1 said:
Alt+F4,

Can you back up your claims with examples and citations? Thanks in advance.
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I'm re-reading Candace's blog now, just came across this bit of hypocricy from February 2011:

Show me the document, reporters are supposed to say before they print a damning remark. They are required to put a quote into context, by displaying what came before and after it. This is Journalism 101. Crucial in a murder case where the suspects risk life behind bars.
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In only 5 minutes of reading I read an untruth, "the independent experts have swept away the DNA evidence" and a non-fact checked rumor, "Nara Capezzalli is near deaf and has mental problems severe enough to require a psychiatric ward."
 
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Alt+F4 said:
Of course there are legitimate reasons to be concerned about the suppression of free speech, but there is no basis for this concern when the source is a “news report” without corroboration, independent verification or fact-checking.
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Is is true? When there is corroboration and verification, then you will have concerns about the Mignini instigated, Italian court's suppression of Frank's website 'Perugia Shock', correct?

Can you anticipate those concerns? Will you direct any towards Mignini?
 
Alt+F4 said:
You post it on your blog and let people read it, happens a lot. You do know that when an email is posted on the Internet, it's still an email, right?
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I don't think some people would trust a blog post as being an accurate reflection of an email. How would you prove that the blog post you created was actually the email you received? You could just make up the whole thing. No, you'd need more proof than this, I think.
 
Matthew Best said:
I don't think some people would trust a blog post as being an accurate reflection of an email. How would you prove that the blog post you created was actually the email you received? You could just make up the whole thing. No, you'd need more proof than this, I think.
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If Alt saw the actual order she would find some other excuse, or just pretend like the conversation never happened and move on to some other diatribe about which no reasonably sane person disputes.
 
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HumanityBlues said:
If Alt saw the actual order she would find some other excuse, or just pretend like the conversation never happened and move on to some other diatribe about which no reasonably sane person disputes.
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Well show us the actual order or link to independent verification that it exists and we'll find out.

Oh, that's right....you can't.
 
Speaking of unsourced material... Truejustice has an article up about how this whole Frank debacle is just an enormous conspiracy/trick to fool the Committee to Protect Journalists to go after Mignini.

Is TrueJustice like some sort of backwards parody of the Onion? Or is this Peter Quennell guy really this stupid and crazy?
 
Alt+F4 said:
Oh, so now the Italian media is a good source for reporting about anything having to do with Amanda Knox?
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It is somewhat interesting that in the Italian reports that Paola Belsino is also said to be the judge but christainahannah can't find a judge in Florence by that name. She did find a Paola Belsito who is a judge. I can understand a typo in the American press, not good but translation problems do occur. But in the Italian press about an Italian judge?

But, of course, we don't know for sure the real name of the judge.
 
Alt+F4 said:
Well show us the actual order or link to independent verification that it exists and we'll find out.

Oh, that's right....you can't.
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Nor do I care. The only reason I would want the order would be to convince some conspiracy theorist named alt f4 on JREF. No one else cares or is denying it but a few loonies on some message boards. I don't care that Orly Taitz doesn't accept Obama's citizenship and I don't care that you don't accept whatever you don't want to accept. It's always going to be some new excuse anyways.
 
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