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General Israel/Palestine discussion thread

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Israel has stolen nearly 200 million in tax revenue which it collects for the PA for a 3% fee off the top. Israel has decided to keep it.

The simple solution is to factor the debt. Find countries where there are Israeli assets, sell the debt for say 80 cents on the dollar and let those countries take Israeli property to satisfy the debt. Owned embassies are not immune from asset taking to cover debt.
 
Matt Giwer said:
Let me remind you of your claim the ISC decision on the Be'lin fence route disproved my assertion. I pointed out that decision has been ignored since it was issued. You denied that. I produced a URL from today's Haaretz referring to the on-going protest to get the fence moved. So your only supposedly factual objection has been shown false.

Do you have anything you think might support your position? Do better this time. Do not embareass yourself again.
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It certainly does debunk your "dictator" theory.....unless you have a new definition for dictator....the dictator said "we'll build the wall here" but the "dictator" was over-ruled...yes....a dictator was over-ruled....some dictator eh?

The wall is not built where the " dictator" wanted it......don't be distracted by the weekly protest, that happens anyway. Even iff the wall follows the high court approved route.
 
Virus said:
Arabs started it. With Nazis.
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Bunch of crazy and often criminal Jews started it in the late 19th c. The open statement of criminal intent to expel the native population by force was first voiced in Palestine by a rabbi in 1914. It was first in wide circulation publication in the early 1920s by Jabotinsky.

Speaking of mistakes that were made, the biggest Palestinian mistake was not killing them off when they started arriving in the 1890s.
 
The Fool said:
It certainly does debunk your "dictator" theory.....unless you have a new definition for dictator....the dictator said "we'll build the wall here" but the "dictator" was over-ruled...yes....a dictator was over-ruled....some dictator eh?

The wall is not built where the " dictator" wanted it......don't be distracted by the weekly protest, that happens anyway. Even iff the wall follows the high court approved route.
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Excuse but when the person I call a dictator tells the highest judicial authority to EF off just how do you conclude he has been overruled?
 
Matt Giwer said:
One more time an impeccable Israeli source supports what I have said and allows Izziehuggers to live up to their handles.
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You know you've established you're at least 75% in agreement with the Fool, is he the one you want to be calling an "Izziehugger"?
 
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This is cute. Do you want to know why its cute?

Because what is now Jordan was officially part of the Mandate Palestine for two years, and was split off from the rest of Palestine before the first High Commissioner of Palestine took control.

Basically, Jordan was never really part of Palestine.
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The problem with the map is that it is an early 20th c. legal fiction created in the aftermath of WWI. Palestine, going back to the 5th c. BC, was part of Syria. The part of the map east of the Jordan was Nabotea, an overland trading empire stretching from the Red Sea half way to Babylon.
 
There seems to be a huge difference of opinion in urgency. Saying that it must stop sometime in the future after statehood is achieved, but not sure how long after and those pesky details can be ironed out later on…seems to lack urgency to such a large degree that it approaches not actually believing violence against Israel needs to stop at all.
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Mostly because, when there is a state and violence continues as per the "staged plan" for Israel's destruction, there will simply be more excuses found as to why the violence is all still Israel's fault anyway.
 
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Which will largely leave the field to me unrefuted as in irrefutable. Save me a lot of replies.

But you miss the obvious -- as expected -- you will still read replies to me.

You also have me confused with someone who gives a four letter word.
 
Mycroft said:
You know you've established you're at least 75% in agreement with the Fool, is he the one you want to be calling an "Izziehugger"?
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I do not speak for him. He does not speak for me. That is the same deal I have with the Pope and Obama.
 
Matt Giwer said:
Excuse but when the person I call a dictator tells the highest judicial authority to EF off just how do you conclude he has been overruled?
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I conclude he has been over-ruled when He doesn't build the wall where he wanted to build the wall. And can you quote him where he told the supreme court he was not going to obey their ruling? can you do that? Hint......you can't because it didn't happen..
 
Skeptic said:
Mostly because, when there is a state and violence continues as per the "staged plan" for Israel's destruction, there will simply be more excuses found as to why the violence is all still Israel's fault anyway.
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Anyone but me noticed Giwer just admitted he wanted the Jews to be killed off right from the start?

Such a peaceful chap.
 
Mycroft said:
You know you've established you're at least 75% in agreement with the Fool, is he the one you want to be calling an "Izziehugger"?
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actually I think its you that is tight with Giwer....you both like like dogs and cats?

Hmmmm, thats significant.

just curious but do you have anything more to offer than driveby cheap and cowardly smears associating people with neo-nazis? I though you had more imagination.
 
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Skeptic said:
Mostly because, when there is a state and violence continues as per the "staged plan" for Israel's destruction, there will simply be more excuses found as to why the violence is all still Israel's fault anyway.
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It is sort of obvious.

If Jews had stayed of Palestine instead of agreeing with Herzl and Hitler that Jews could never assimilate into Christian Europe there would be no problem with Palestine.

But we cannot rewind history so we have to deal with what is today. There are three possible futures.

The least likely is a continuation of the present conditions. The world is finally tired of it. The snickers when izzies shed holodile tears are becoming harder to conceal.

The other two both result in Palestinians having the human right of self-determination. The difference is whether it is in an independent Palestine or as voting citizens of Israel.

If there is a fourth possibility I would appreciate someone posting it.
 
Matt Giwer said:
If there is a fourth possibility I would appreciate someone posting it.
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I think the fourth possibility is more of a wish on your part than a possibility. I haven't quite figured out why you might have that wish, but that wish is shared by a small minority of others, past and present.
 
Pardalis said:
Anyone but me noticed Giwer just admitted he wanted the Jews to be killed off right from the start?

Such a peaceful chap.
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Only those whose grasp of English is a lame as yours could have read such a thing.

Or you are deliberately lying again.
 
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