Jet engine of wrong type found near Ground Zero

Oz1976 said:
And your analogy is horribly innacurate and flawed. Egg thrown against Tennis racket vs... 425,000 pound jet airliner traveling 500 kt/h smashing into a steel frame mesh...physics was not your strongest class was it.
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So, don't you think the steel and concrete floors would have constituted an immense horizontal resistance? The planes supposedly hit diagonally across many of those floors. Think of the floors and the outer steel columns as the strings in the tennis racket. And think of the airliners with thin aluminum shells filled with jet fuel in their wings as eggs.
 
Anders Lindman said:
My position is that all eyewitnesses who say they have seen a plane hit the WTC in real life are either lying or mistaken.
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You post lie after lie and then call people who witnessed a very traumatic event liars. You are a disgusting human being. Congratulations on being the first to make my ignore list.
 
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fess said:
Hey Anders, in your post where you linked out to zetaboards.com, did you happen to read all of the posts? Especially this one;

Going back to the engine details....this is straight from Boeing:

Each 767 is powered by two high-bypass-ratio turbofan engines, which are interchangeable with 747 engines with only minor modifications.
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Anders, you conveniently forgot to address this point, why?
 
ApolloGnomon said:
circular logic.

fail != win
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But could it be true? Are you ABSOLUTELY sure that the serial numbers on the airline parts found match those on Flight 175 and Flight 11? One of the biggest crime scene in history, and they didn't even bother to check the serial numbers on the parts found?! :confused:

Imagine a crime scene where they find a gun between a killed man. Should they examine the gun, or simply take for granted that the gun is the murder weapon? What kind of criminal investigation is that?
 
Anders Lindman said:
My position is that all eyewitnesses who say they have seen a plane hit the WTC in real life are either lying or mistaken.
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A few of those eyewitnesses who seen the aircraft hit the south tower were firefighters. You calling them liars also?
 
Anders Lindman said:
I read much of that thread but missed that part. Minor modifications? Not very specific statement.
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Some of us on this forum that think you are a blooming idiot are glad that you keep posting. Because by posting, you remove all doubt.

Minor modifications may start with mounting brackets, need more specifics?
 
fess said:
Some of us on this forum that think you are a blooming idiot are glad that you keep posting. Because by posting, you remove all doubt.

Minor modifications may start with mounting brackets, need more specifics?
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I would like to see what kind of cooling duct assembly that can be used for a JT9D-7R4D engine.
 
Anders Lindman said:
My position is that all eyewitnesses who say they have seen a plane hit the WTC in real life are either lying or mistaken.
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Why? Were you there?

Where do these delusions you have come from? do your parents or anyone in your immediate family have these delusions?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delusional_disorder
When delusional disorders occur late in life they suggest a hereditary predisposition. Researchers also suggest that these disorders are the result of early childhood experiences with an authoritarian family structure. According to other researchers, any person with a sensitive personality is particularly vulnerable to developing a delusional disorder.[7]
Although its exact cause is unknown, it is believed that genetic, biochemical and environmental factors play a significant role in the development of delusional disorder.[8]
 
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A W Smith said:
Why? Were you there?
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I'm sure because no planes hit the WTC towers. There are too many things pointing to the official explanation being impossible. Impossible airplane speeds, impossible maneuvers, impossible impacts, suspicious radar data, NORAD slow reaction, Flight 175 still flying in the air after supposedly having crashed into the South Tower, ALMOST impossibly bad computer graphics insertions etc.

I'm surprised that Alex Jones still maintains that the no plane theory is impossible. Well, not really surprised if he is somewhat of controlled opposition which probably is the explanation. Or, that he is forced to deny the no plane theory in order to be allowed to continue.
 
Anders Lindman said:
I'm sure because no planes hit the WTC towers. There are too many things pointing to the official explanation being impossible. Impossible airplane speeds, impossible maneuvers, impossible impacts, suspicious radar data, NORAD slow reaction, Flight 175 still flying in the air after supposedly having crashed into the South Tower, ALMOST impossibly bad computer graphics insertions etc.

I'm surprised that Alex Jones still maintains that the no plane theory is impossible. Well, not really surprised if he is somewhat of controlled opposition which probably is the explanation. Or, that he is forced to deny the no plane theory in order to be allowed to continue.
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Fine, So you admit you weren't there then. Two of my cousins are police, One for Jersey City (where I was born) across the river from Manhattan, the other for the port authority, Both saw flight 175 impact the south tower, Live, Not on TV, While on duty. Where were you with all your incredulous ignorance? Germany? Nothing you post above is impossible nor suspicious .
 
A W Smith said:
Fine, So you admit you weren't there then. Two of my cousins are police, One for Jersey City (where I was born) across the river from Manhattan, the other for the port authority, Both saw flight 175 impact the south tower, Live, Not on TV, While on duty. Where were you with all your incredulous ignorance? Germany? Nothing you post above is impossible nor suspicious .
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Maybe they are lying because it would be embarrassing for them to NOT have seen any plane when they saw the fireball explosion. Put yourself in their shoes. Would you as a police officer tell people that you saw the fireball but didn't see any plane?! When the plane could clearly be seen on CNN. People would think you had gone bonkers and you could even lose your job! Seriously.
 
Oz1976 said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZizROY3oy0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwJzH8xM4lo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XM3cwjpWvEE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2B2NamwCFQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHiSPXPNHTA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnzDcixTiek
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zyt-oUTQLd8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYm5aeq9NH4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBYqh1ECpq4
listen close, spontaneous reactions
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I listened to the first video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZizROY3oy0

The guy talks about planes hitting the World Trade Center, but it was no direct eyewitness account as far as I can tell. He did say "I swear it happened", but it's not clear that he was talking about having seen the event himself or heard it from his sister watching the news.
 
In this clip a man says: "I saw it." And he talks about a second plane. But could it be a planted witness? Listen to other man before that. It sounds like he is saying in an agitated voice (from about 0:08): "That blew up, that just blew that building up. Ain't nothing hit that building. Nothing hit that building." -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwJzH8xM4lo

Many of the amateur videos were staged, so witness videos like this one could also have been staged.
 
In this video the eyewitness says: "...and everyone on Fifth Avenue witnessed the second plane crash..." Then he tells about how the fireball looked like. He never actually says that he himself saw the plane.
 
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