StopSylvia email: "Hummmmmm"

sadhatter said:
This is like trying to say an MMA fighter is crap because his shorts are purple black and light blue. ( if anyone gets the reference i will fall over dead.) Your really scraping the bowl here for insults Mush.
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Yup. None of his other criticisms holds water, so now he's going after the site layout.

Bravo, mushy!

How about next you tell us how you don't like the juxtaposition of letters in Robert's name? Maybe how the "nc" in Lancaster is the abbreviation for North Carolina, and you once bought a sandwich there with too much mayonnaise, ergo, Robert is a liar and a bad sandwich artist, to boot.
 
RSLancastr said:
I strongly disagree about the layout. When I created the site, one of my primary goals was to make it easy to navigate. I think I acheived that. And I've received many compliments on that.
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My criticism on this score would be that the site lacks a search function.
 
mushy said:
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Another lie?
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Another? I am not aware of your having pointed out any.

And you still haven't. you have managed to show, and even present convincing evidence, that my recollection was incorrect. being wrong is not lying, particularly when I added the disclaimer "IIRC" (If I Recall Correctly).

I believe the code you quoted was some code a co-worker showed me on a code-sharing web site which I used to discourage tinkering with certain literals on the site (such as the copyright). If it is poorly-written, I am not to blame. If it is poorly-implemented, I probably am.

Problems - Indentation, Colour scheme, error messages "[an error occurred while processing this directive] " and css in html page, and table layout is slow loading and obnoxious.

I do like some of the fonts though.
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as for "css in HTML page", it is not in the html on the site. It is inserted into the html via a Server-side include before being served to the client. This allowed me to keep all the CSS in one file rather than cut-pasting it into hundreds of html files, horrendously complicating any maintenance to the CSS.

I tried other ways of referring to the CSS file, but none seemed to work reliably. The Server-side include seemed to be a decent compromise.

I don't remember seeing error messages, but I fully believe you that they are there. Do they show on the page as delivered to your browser, or are they "informational" messages you are seeing by digging?

If I still had access to the code, I'd ask your advice on table-loading.

As it is, thanks for sharing your thoughts on this.
 
sadhatter said:
This is like trying to say an MMA fighter is crap because his shorts are purple black and light blue. ( if anyone gets the reference i will fall over dead.) Your really scraping the bowl here for insults Mush.
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If you had said Pink shorts, I might have been able to answer, as he is my daughter's Jiu Jitsu coach. He married into the family which evidently invented (or at least popularized) Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. In one of his first big-time bouts, he couldn't find his shorts, and so took the first pair he found which fit, not noticing (or maybe not caring) that they were bright pink. The announcers evidently made much of it, and wearing Pink shorts became sort of his trademark.

This is pretty much the sum of my knowledge of MMA trivia.
 
aggle-rithm said:
Still...I'd like to know where his hostility comes from. Attacking RSL as he does here is like rushing into the mall at Christmas time and beating the living crap out of Santa Claus.
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Hey,my beard isn't THAT white - yet.

And I lost a lot of weight in hospital.

But...thanks.
 
aggle-rithm said:
That's what would require PHP and MySql.

Unless he goes Microsoft and uses SharePoint...
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Installing and configuring SharePoint to get a search function is like building a nuclear power plant in your backyard so you can heat water for tea.
 
mushy, if you wish to read the article on my site where I published that pro-Sylvia email, I was incorrect about the title, so here is a link:

http://www.stopsylvia.com/articles/email_rosannamontage.shtml

It is one of my favorite articles on the site.

Reading it just now, I am pretty sure that "Rosanna" (not her real name) was ALSO the woman who said that Browne had known she was going to move to Washington, DC. So, I can only recall receiving emails from TWO people satisfied with readings with Browne: "Rosanna" (who, if you read that whole article, totally changed her mind about Browne), and the "Judge" - and I did publish Rosanna's praise of Sylvia!
 
RSLancastr said:
mushy, if you wish to read the article on my site where I published that pro-Sylvia email, I was incorrect about the title, so here is a link:

http://www.stopsylvia.com/articles/email_rosannamontage.shtml

It is one of my favorite articles on the site.

Reading it just now, I am pretty sure that "Rosanna" (not her real name) was ALSO the woman who said that Browne had known she was going to move to Washington, DC. So, I can only recall receiving emails from TWO people satisfied with readings with Browne: "Rosanna" (who, if you read that whole article, totally changed her mind about Browne), and the "Judge" - and I did publish Rosanna's praise of Sylvia!
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Rob, as much as i commend your efforts, people like Mush make commentary like this solely to waste the time of their intellectual betters, and the more well known said better is, the more they want to do it.

You have done a more than commendable job of replying to his jabs so far, but the more you do, the more he is going to poke at you and try and waste more of your time. Leaving you looking at a ten page thread in which literally nothing was accomplished.
 
RSLancastr said:
I have a fair amount of straight html experience. SSB was my first shot at CSS, so I will cop to having nearly "no knowledge of it." the site, IIRC, uses no mysql, javascript and jquery (it is not database-driven), so I don;t see how my having "no real knowledge" of them is a problem. I had hoped to make the site database-driven, and implement some php/mySQL aspects (such as the list of articles), but my stroke put all of that on a waaay back burner.


You are not the first to complain about the color scheme. I happen to like it, but...oh well.

I strongly disagree about the layout. When I created the site, one of my primary goals was to make it easy to navigate. I think I acheived that. And I've received many compliments on that.

Another primary goal was simplicity in design. I didn't want to have to worry about what browser the viewer was using, or whether they needed some external application installed in order to view some part of the site.

And, to me, the main point about the site is the information. The articles. Adding any snazzy graphics, animation, etc to the site was absolutely the LEAST important thing in terms of site design.
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The site is okay, easy to navigate.
There's no animations that take forever to load.
The Keep It Simple S----- theme wins every time
 
sadhatter said:
Rob, as much as i commend your efforts, people like Mush make commentary like this solely to waste the time of their intellectual betters, and the more well known said better is, the more they want to do it.

You have done a more than commendable job of replying to his jabs so far, but the more you do, the more he is going to poke at you and try and waste more of your time. Leaving you looking at a ten page thread in which literally nothing was accomplished.
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'Hatter, thanks for the advice, but, troll or not, mushy raises points which I address if only for the benefit of lurkers. I posted the link to the Rosanna article as further evidence backing up my claim that I had published a "pro-Browne" email. I addressed the post to Mushy, but it is there for ALL to see.

As for this potentially being a thread in which nothing is accomplished: we may never know what it accomplishes. I have received PMs and emails over the years from folks telling me that the manner in which I conducted myself in some obscure thread was what led them to embrace skepticism. You just never know.
 
RSLancastr said:
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As for this potentially being a thread in which nothing is accomplished: we may never know what it accomplishes. I have received PMs and emails over the years from folks telling me that the manner in which I conducted myself in some obscure thread was what led them to embrace skepticism. You just never know.
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I agree fully with you on this. Many discussion are more for the benefit of the fencesitters than anyone. Just a gentle nudge, and over they go.
 
I was just about to thank mushy for giving us all a chance to enumerate the reasons we love stopsylvia, RSL and the values of critical thinking, and ya'll are already talkin' about it. Thanks mushy! :)
 
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Wow, usually these RSL threads about emails are interesting, but never this interesting . . . if that's event he right word for it.

Just for the record, RSL has always struck me as being one of the most sincere and honest people on this forum. I've always been impressed with his Stop Sylvia campaign, and have found nothing that would warrant the kind of response I've just finished wading through.

Not that my endorsement means much, and in fact might even hurt, but Robert, you certainly have it from me. ;)
 
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