Is the Biggest 9/11 Lie Yet to Come?

MG1962 said:
So let me see. Obama and the Democrats have the chance to obliterate the Republican party, And dont take it :eek: Next you will be telling me Nazis never gassed Jews
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The head neoconservative honchos transcend party bounds.
 
A W Smith said:
So after having your ass handed to you on just about every single thread you posted on. All you got left is incredulous trolling Clayton?
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slojoe said:
It must be noted that 9/11 was the worst attack on the CONUS in our history, and our leaders at the time were caught with their pants down. Man, if those fellows got caught in front of a public hearing, the other party would make them look like fools.

What were their names again?
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Our leaders? Leaders don't carry out standing orders.
 
Clayton Moore said:
The people beyond the US who have eyes.
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You have nothing. You talk about nonsense and move on to expose the ignorance of 911 truth one web site, one video, at a time.

You have a keen ability to find lies and false information on 911.

People who refuse to think for themselves will fall for the moronic lies you have shown to be out there. You posted a stupid video which claims there was no 757 at the Pentagon. A big lie. You have shown there are people who don't care about the truth and make up lies to fool people who can't think for themselves.

You posted lies and false information about Flight 77, you failed to defend the claims with evidence, thus the claims are failed.
 
Clayton Moore said:
The people beyond the US who have eyes.
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Hate to break the news to you, but they don't think 9-11 was an inside job either.

I know. Soon an Iranian, Chinese or Venezuelan engineering organization will publish a paper in a respected engineering journal that declares the collapses of the WTC as described by the NIST and others was impossible, and we'll all be eating our hats, right?
 
Clayton Moore said:
Is the Biggest 9/11 Lie Yet to Come?
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There was a time I'd say "no way, the truthers can't possibly tell bigger lies" but damned if they don't continue to top the last one. So I'll have to say yes, the biggest lie is yet to come.
 
I intend to shoot myself in the foot should the day come when your nutso ideas appear "indisputable" to me.
 
Kid Eager said:
Clayton Moore said:
The people beyond the US who have eyes.
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Yes - and we watch the US and just shake our heads in amazement. Isn't reality interesting enough without having to make up a whole bunch of stuff?
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Even hanging upside down on the bottom of the world we can see the simple truths of 9/11 - and wonder at the deluded people who keep telling lies.


(G'day Kid Eager - if your sig is accurate we are nearly neighbours.)
 
beachnut said:
Better yet, they have beer! Tonight is Fosters, next ....
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My shout - the Moss Vale 'Pink Pub' and I'll make it:
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Fosters is the stuff we send overseas - we don't drink it here...

...if we have any choice.... :)


Then "There's no such thing as a bad beer....it's just that some are better than others."
 
Clayton Moore said:
The people beyond the US who have eyes knee-jerk into antagonistic clichés the monent someone mentions "America".
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Fixed that for you.

I am from beyond the USA. 9/11 truthers are a fact-free fringe everywhere, exept perhaps in those muslim dictatorship that can't deal with the shame 19 islamist hijackers brought upon their religion.
 
Clayton Moore said:
The lie that the Cheney and friends will use is that they were somehow forced to undertake the 9/11 attacks OR ELSE.
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Maybe you could try to be a writer of cheap fiction. But the market is tight.

Clayton Moore said:
EXPLOSION
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGAofwkAOlo
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Let's listen to the video: Sirens, helicopters, people screaming, growing rumble of collapse, general city and wind noise. Did I miss anything? Is something missing? Oh yes: We HEAR NO EXPLOSION!

So lets look: Oops, we SEE NO EXPLOSION!

Myriad coined this type of lie "Masochistic Lie". The term denotes lies that are utterly transparent. You are showing us a frog and claim it's a horse. EVERYBODY KNOWS YOUR LYING, because everybody can see that there is no explosion and can hear that there is no explosion, yet you say that frog is a horse! Why do you tell masochistic lies? Do you enjoy being exposed ar a liar for all the world to see?

Clayton Moore said:
EXPLOSION
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhyu-fZ2nRA
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Could you point aut where in this compilation you see (or hear) evidence of an explosion? I didn't bother to watch the whole clip, given that you already lied about the first.

Clayton Moore said:
The building collapsed into dust.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1ehxy_911-truth-wtc-collapsed-to-dust_news
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I made a screencap:



Are the big things that this man picks up, and the even bigger things he stands under, dust?
Every kid knows the answer, of course the building did not collapse to just dust.
What Firefighter Casliggi says after 1:40 ("The building collapsed to dust") is obviously wrong, or not meant to be taken literally: The very same video clip shows slabs of concrete, debris pieces that are huge, large, man-sized, fist sized, coarse dirt and fine dust. Want more screencaps, or ready to admit you tried to pass off yet another Masochistic Lie?

Clayton Moore said:
You don't believe that gravity collapse do you?
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Kid, we do. We understand the 100 tons of TNT destructive power of gravity. You know, 300,000 tons standing >1400 feet tall represent 100 tons of TNT. Did you know that? Much much much much more than anyone would bring as explosives to a CD.
Or do you think 100 tons of TNT (or equivalent high explosives) exploded at the South Tower? Another 100 tons at the North Tower? Another 20 tons of TNT at WTC7? All with no sounds, no flashed, no observables? No telltale-signs of desctrution on the steel? Are you NUTS?

Here is a research job for you:
Figure out for one highrise CD of your choice (WTC obviously not included)
- how much high explosives did they use (measured in lb or kg)
- compute how much chemical energy that represented (expressed in Joules)
- figure out how high and how massive the destroyed building was (plausible estimates will do)
- compute how much potential energy against gravity that represented (expressed in Joules)
- Compare
This homework, if you do it, will teach you that during any CD, by far most of the energy comes from gravity. Most of the concrete-breaking power, most of the dust-making prowess, is provided by gravity. Explosions are just the way to get gravity doing its destructive job. Doesn't matter much if you use explosives, fire, hydraulic wenches or pistons - all you want to do is break a few critical supports so the building looses its constant struggle with gravity.

Clayton Moore said:
Look on the internet for gravity collapse. It tells you stars have gravity collapses and that gravitational collapse is at the heart of structure formation in the universe.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_collapse
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A Cat is not a Cat is not a Cat is not Cat
You just showed you can't do research.
 
I'm beyond the USA, clayton is beyond the planet. I don't really see why anyone responds to him. All his points have been debunked years before and he brings nothing new. He's way too far gone to be reasoned with. Ignoring him and denying him the oxygen of publicity is the best response. Onto ignore he goes.
 
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