Is Obama planning to attack Saudi Arabia?

A tendency in mainstream media is that they start writing headlines with the word 'no' in it. A kind of preparing the ground for future articles where the 'no' slowly is replaced by other less definite statements, until the no is removed completely.

Here is a recent example:

"UK says no sign of serious instability in Saudi Arabia

(Reuters) - The British government has no indication of "serious instability" in Saudi Arabia, Foreign Secretary William Hague said on Wednesday.

Asked how confident he was about Saudi Arabia's longer term stability, Hague told a parliamentary committee: "It is hard to foresee ... what happens in any of the nations of the Middle East."

Full article: http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/16/us-britain-saudi-idUSTRE72F5XZ20110316
 
Anders Lindman said:
A tendency in mainstream media is that they start writing headlines with the word 'no' in it. A kind of preparing the ground for future articles where the 'no' slowly is replaced by other less definite statements, until the no is removed completely.

Here is a recent example:

"UK says no sign of serious instability in Saudi Arabia
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That's only an example of a headline with the word "no" in it.

Can you provide an example of a series of headlines where the word "no" gradually disappears?
 
Jack by the hedge said:
That's only an example of a headline with the word "no" in it.

Can you provide an example of a series of headlines where the word "no" gradually disappears?
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I searched for examples of no-fly zone news. The problem is that it then becomes "no no-fly zone", which clearly is an unlikely expression in headlines. :D

However, I found this (from March 7):

"It was a diplomatic blunder for Cameron to threaten Colonel Gaddafi with a no-fly zone. No-fly zones are big boys' games.

Britain cannot make effective threats of this kind unless the United States is backing them.

It rapidly appeared that U.S. Defence Secretary Robert Gates was not in support of the British initiative. Since then, the Russians have also made it clear they are opposed to it."

From: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1363131/Libya-No-planes-ships-means-no-fly-zone.html

Then in a more recent news article Robert Gates' no has become less definite:

"ABOARD A US MILITARY AIRCRAFT — Defense Secretary Robert Gates said on Saturday the US military and other allies could impose a no-fly zone on Libya but it remains unclear if it would be a "wise" move."

From: http://www.google.com/hostednews/af...ocId=CNG.169f36d31634e648d6dcacdc2a3042c3.521

Then in an even more recent news article:

"En route to Washington after a weekend trip to Bahrain, U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates said Monday that the logistical challenges of enforcing a no-fly zone over Libya could be overcome."

From: http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/africa/03/16/libya.civil.war/


Notice the gradual shift from 'no' to 'could be overcome' in these articles.
 
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So I think we can just put this one to bed. There's just no evidence for the US invading Saudi Arabia beyond the "reasoning" or Anders. Move along folks nothing here anyone needs to take seriously.
 
"Obama calls kings of Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, urges 'maximum restraint' as Bahraini crisis grows

WASHINGTON - President Barack Obama has called King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia and King Hamad bin Isa Al Khalifa of Bahrain to express deep concern over the violence in Bahrain.

In speaking to both of the leaders on Wednesday, Obama stressed the need for "maximum restraint," White House spokesman Jay Carney.

Saudi Arabia and other Gulf countries have sent hundreds of troops to assist security forces in Bahrain.

Obama's intervention comes as the unrest in Bahrain has grown increasingly violent."

Full story: http://ca.news.yahoo.com/obama-call...ahrain-urges-maximum-20110316-113936-460.html
 
Anders Lindman said:
Notice the gradual shift from 'no' to 'could be overcome' in these articles.
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Apples and oranges: If asked, I would say "no, I would not be in favour of shooting the next person I see not cleaning up after their dog when it poops."

*Could* I shoot? Yes, I could.

*Could* the logistics of doing so safely be overcome? Yes, I think they could.

But I *would* still not be in favour of doing it.

How is that a progression?

Different questions, different answers.
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TSR said:
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Apples and oranges: If asked, I will say "no, I will not shoot the next person I see not cleaning up after their dog when it poops."

*Could* I? Yes, I could.

How is that a progression?

Two different questions, two different answers.
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When (if) Robert Gates says yes to a no-fly zone over Libya, then you could hardly claim no change in the message.
 
Anders Lindman said:
When (if) Robert Gates says yes to a no-fly zone over Libya, then you could hardly claim no change in the message.
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And if, not when, that ever happens I will acknowledge that change.

But your claim that the quotes you supplied indicate a progression to that change will remain stoopid.
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Which NATO troops are goingto invade Sudi Arabia?

It' was a battle to get NATO countries to send a minimum number of troops to Afghanistan.

UK forces are at full stretch with our few thousand troops already in the field and the Govt just slashed the defence budget. Can you see Germany France or Italy sendingthousands of troops?
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Which NATO troops are goingto invade Sudi Arabia?

It' was a battle to get NATO countries to send a minimum number of troops to Afghanistan.

UK forces are at full stretch with our few thousand troops already in the field and the Govt just slashed the defence budget. Can you see Germany France or Italy sendingthousands of troops?
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Afghanistan hasn't much oil. When it's about oil, then all NATO counties will send thousands of troops.
 
“I am saddened that it is politically inconvenient to acknowledge what everyone knows: the Iraq war is largely about oil.” -- Alan Greenspan
 
Anders Lindman said:
The production is shown as the black graph. The bar chart is past discoveries (yellow = estimated future discoveries): http://www.energyvanguard.com/Porta...ng-gap-between-discoveries-and-production.png

"In all years save one from 1930 through 1980, humankind discovered more oil than we used. For the next few years, discovery and use balanced approximately. Since 1986, we are using more oil than we are discovering." -- http://www.caveatlector.org/oil discovery vs consumption.gif

http://www.planetforlife.com/oilcrisis/oilsituation.html
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Still epic fail. You said dwindling KSA reserves and you are wrong. They throttled back on production. They can easily throttle up again.

I work in this industry. You fantasise about it.
 
Yes, because the oil resources are so secure now.

How many of the troops were NATO?
 
funk de fino said:
Still epic fail. You said dwindling KSA reserves and you are wrong. They throttled back on production. They can easily throttle up again.

I work in this industry. You fantasise about it.
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"WikiLeaks: Saudi Oil Lies Exposed

... Yesterday, the latest Wikileaks revelation indicated Saudi Arabia's oil reserves may have been inflated by about 40%.
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Sadad al-Husseini, a former Saudi Aramco bigwig, had said the number of total reserves were overstated by as much as 300 billion barrels. He went even further, believing the Saudis would be unable to reach their 12.5 million b/d production capacity by 2009, and that it would take a decade to reach that goal.

Last year, Saudi production reached 8.4 million barrels per day of crude oil."

Full article: http://www.energyandcapital.com/articles/wikileaks-saudi-oil-lies-exposed/1423
 
He keeps posting links, that ,even if accurate, do nothing to prove his main thesis.
Un freaking beleivable.
 
Sledge said:
Make your mind up: does Obama want protests or not?
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Do you think there is any difference between what Obama wants and the CIA wants? Surely they want the same thing: first protests, then military troops to calm down the protests.
 
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