Merged 8.8 quake in Sendai, Japan

[manofthesea]

Read the thread first.

 

[9/11-investigator]

A large part of northern Japan of has been horizontally displaced over 10 meter.

NASA says earth axis has been displaced 8 cm.
http://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/natur/0,1518,750579,00.html

Possibly 10,000 people kille in totally destroyed northern coastal town of Minamisanriku (looks like a wet version of Hiroshima):
http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/0,1518,750564,00.html

 

[jayh]

I'll type slower. Japan has no concern for 'the individual'.

I realize you're probably trolling, but how do you justify that? Compare to our very much smaller Katrina incident.

I don't think you comprehend what is happening when thousands of people are suddenly missing, infrastructure is utterly destroyed and no one even knows the extent of the damage.

 

[blobru]

I'll type slower. Japan has no concern for 'the individual'.

Local response after 1995 Kobe earthquake:

Approximately 1.2 million volunteers were involved in relief efforts during the first three months following the earthquake.

 

[a_unique_person]

Top government officials, announcing they would use seawater to attempt to cool the reactor, tried to reassure the nation.
"The latest explosion wasn't of a kind that would come with a significant leakage of radiation," Yukio Edano, the chief cabinet secretary, said. "It's our expectation that we can bring this nuclear-power plant under control, using this unprecedented step of filling the containment structure with seawater."
However, Stratfor, a company that provides global intelligence, said its nuclear science and engineering sources found statements the Unit 1 reactor container had not been breached "highly dubious. Reports of iodine and cesium outside the plant indicate the reactor's containment structure has been breached," it said.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/br...-nuclear-reactor/story-e6frf7jx-1226020538472


Are they just going to dump a whole heap of seawater in what is left of the structure? Or just dump seawater in the container. If the core is in partial meltdown, doesn't that mean that a lot more hydrogen will have to be released and radiation with it?

 

[a_unique_person]

I'll type slower. Japan has no concern for 'the individual'.

I think you are confusing the training for the Imperial Japanese Army of WWII with the present day general population of Japan.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

I'll type slower. Japan has no concern for 'the individual'.

What is this, some bizarre WWII fantasy stereotype? What's makes you even think such idiocy?

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

I think you are confusing the training for the Imperial Japanese Army of WWII with the present day general population of Japan.

Not only that, but it would be consistent with confusing the ultimate sacrifice of a Kamakaze for one's country, with the opposite, somehow everyone else not caring about that soldier. It's ludicrous.

 

[Soapy Sam]

idiocy is it's own reward.

 

[Belz...]

On a technological scale they're as advanced as Starfleet Command.
Socially, Yemen. They'll need to save themselves.

What ?

I'll type slower. Japan has no concern for 'the individual'.

Don't they ?

Read the thread first.

We have, and your posts are a total derail. And also insensitive.

 

[zooterkin]

I'll type slower. Japan has no concern for 'the individual'.

How long did you spend in Japan before forming this conclusion?

 

[Corsair 115]

...but I spoke to a member of the original CANDU-6 design team, and for their work, they studied the performance of German coastal fortifications versus 16 inch battleship shells from Allied ships during the Normandy landings.

[nitpick]

There were no Allied ships armed with 16" guns used on D-Day to bombard German coastal fortifications. The largest calibre was 15" on the HMS Ramillies, Warspite, and Roberts. The USS Arkansas was armed with 12" guns, while the USS Texas and Nevada were armed with 14" guns.

[/nitpick]

 

[I Ratant]

Never owned a British car, have you?

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Every part that falls off is of the finest British craftsmanship..
And there's Joe Lucas, the prince of darkness...

 

[Bell]

[nitpick]

There were no Allied ships armed with 16" guns used on D-Day to bombard German coastal fortifications. The largest calibre was 15" on the HMS Ramillies, Warspite, and Roberts. The USS Arkansas was armed with 12" guns, while the USS Texas and Nevada were armed with 14" guns.

[/nitpick]

Nerd!

 

[catsmate]

Amazing collection of large high-resolution photographs of the disaster.





http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w310/william_parcher/e5115556.jpg

This is probably going to make me sound like a terrible person but that picture immediately reminded me of the Great Boston Molasses Flood of 1919.

 

[Hindmost]

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/br...-nuclear-reactor/story-e6frf7jx-1226020538472


Are they just going to dump a whole heap of seawater in what is left of the structure? Or just dump seawater in the container. If the core is in partial meltdown, doesn't that mean that a lot more hydrogen will have to be released and radiation with it?

Dumping seawater in containment is what I would call a last ditch effort...this indicates the normal safety systems are really unavailable. The core is likely clad with zirconium...when it gets very hot, it causes hydrogen production...as it did in TMI. (some fuel is clad in stainless steel, but I am don't know about BWR fuel in Japanese reactors.) So, adding the sea water is an attempt to mitigate this. Plants in the US have hydrogen recombiners...but they need some electricity to work in general...there are some passive hydrogen recombiners.

I really believe they are trying to add seawater to keep the steam pressure in containment low--perhaps keep the core a bit cooler while they try and get electricity to critical systems.

glenn

 

[a_unique_person]

Dumping seawater in containment is what I would call a last ditch effort...this indicates the normal safety systems are really unavailable. The core is likely clad with zirconium...when it gets very hot, it causes hydrogen production...as it did in TMI. (some fuel is clad in stainless steel, but I am don't know about BWR fuel in Japanese reactors.) So, adding the sea water is an attempt to mitigate this. Plants in the US have hydrogen recombiners...but they need some electricity to work in general...there are some passive hydrogen recombiners.

I really believe they are trying to add seawater to keep the steam pressure in containment low--perhaps keep the core a bit cooler while they try and get electricity to critical systems.

glenn

So they are dumping seawater on the container itself to try to cool it?

 

[I Ratant]

This is probably going to make me sound like a terrible person but that picture immediately reminded me of the Great Boston Molasses Flood of 1919.

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What would be the warning signal for a molasses flood?
I recall Dickie Smothers said he yelled "FIRE!!" when he fell into the chocolate vat, figuring no one would pay attention if he yelled... "CHOCOLATE!"

 

[The Central Scrutinizer]

http://i.imgur.com/VvGfE.jpg

http://www.facebook.com/pjdunlevy?sk=wall

Edited by LashL: 

Changed hotlink to regular link due to Rule 10 content.

For those who are wondering, I'd say this is an accurate sampling of American opinion.

 

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Amazing collection of large high-resolution photographs of the disaster.





http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w310/william_parcher/e5115556.jpg

I hope those weren't storing beer!

Now that would be a tragedy.