Is Obama planning to attack Saudi Arabia?

[Anders Lindman]

They may need to start a conflict in Saudi Arabia so that they can use that as an excuse when the oil price sky rockets!!!

I told you so!!! Check this out:

"If Unrest Hits Saudi Arabia, Oil May Jump To $200

Despite concerns that hover over the finance industry, strong markets tend to remain calm. However, when it was hinted that unrest could reach Saudi Arabia, investors became worried. It is because any possibility of unrest hitting Saudi Arabia could spell major ruin."

Full story: http://www.financialfeed.net/if-unrest-hits-saudi-arabia-oil-may-jump-to-200/852383/

 

[INRM]

In response to the OP: That would be an interesting hypothesis -- the NWO starts up all these "revolutions" everywhere, which then becomes justification for invasions of those countries.

 

[Anders Lindman]

In response to the OP: That would be an interesting hypothesis -- the NWO starts up all these "revolutions" everywhere, which then becomes justification for invasions of those countries.

Yeah! I don't believe the protests in the Muslim countries just spontaneously erupted. Instead they have been planned and orchestrated by western intelligence agencies and the like I suspect.

 

[Jack by the hedge]

Let me help you. You can begin with watching this short clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlxDO7Amjso

Notice the clouds before the explosion, and then watch the clouds as the mushroom cloud retracts. The clouds are still there! Intact! Incredibly robust clouds.

You've posted this before.

I can see moisture in the air condensing briefly as the shockwave of the explosion moves outwards, then it quite quickly returns to much the same state it was in before. What's the puzzle there? Why do you think the existing clouds should disappear? Did you imagine that the shockwave you see is driving all of the air before it?

The mushroom cloud does not "retract". You are mis-identifying the shockwave of the blast for part of the mushroom cloud.

In short, there is nothing mysterious about that clip, and if you insist there is then it's up to you to explain why, and rather better than you have so far.

 

[Jack by the hedge]

Yeah! I don't believe the protests in the Muslim countries just spontaneously erupted. Instead they have been planned and orchestrated by western intelligence agencies and the like I suspect.

With what motive? It's not in the West's self-interest to have instability in oil-supplying nations. Your crazy belief makes no sense.

 

[Anders Lindman]

You've posted this before.

I can see moisture in the air condensing briefly as the shockwave of the explosion moves outwards, then it quite quickly returns to much the same state it was in before. What's the puzzle there? Why do you think the existing clouds should disappear? Did you imagine that the shockwave you see is driving all of the air before it?

The mushroom cloud does not "retract". You are mis-identifying the shockwave of the blast for part of the mushroom cloud.

In short, there is nothing mysterious about that clip, and if you insist there is then it's up to you to explain why, and rather better than you have so far.

Retract was perhaps not a correct term. Watch when the mushroom cloud settles down, and the ordinary clouds remain intact! An atom bomb explosion is supposed to generate a tremendous pressure wave, yet the clouds within the area of the explosion remains floating peacefully and unharmed. C'mon, you can't seriously say that's a plausible scenario.

Examples of the shock waves allegedly produced by nuclear explosions: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqyBzXYZPoM

 

[Anders Lindman]

With what motive? It's not in the West's self-interest to have instability in oil-supplying nations. Your crazy belief makes no sense.

It's in western interests to secure oil resources. Long-term.

 

[Foolmewunz]

It was good enough for a Stundie Nomination.

I think you're onto something.

Anders, are you trying to lock down ALL the nominations for Teh March Stundies? This thread could be nominated unto itself.

First we have someone sitting on the john saying, "Say, what if Obama's secretly thinking of attacking Saudi Arabia?", and then making a theory out of that musing. Make never no mind that there's this little poorly defended country on your southern border with a bunch of oil, a quasi-socialist within walking distance in Venezuela, and that big ol' puppy dog to the north... any of which could be conquered in thirty-forty minutes (maybe an hour).

Then we have those close friends the Chinese and Japanese plotting to pay more than they can afford for the Saudi oil, so Barack's bound to attack, fer shure. Again, maybe that's what the Chinese fleet is really doing off Aden. They're not protecting the Chinese merchant marine - they're actually an invading force, planning to go through Jiddah and walk overland (through the Arabian desert) to Riyadh.

Now we're off to Japan/USA conspiring to fake the atom bomb attacks on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. And look how well that worked. It forced Russia to fake the development of a nuclear test AND space travel. (I presume Anders will tell us that they actually conspired with New Zealand to fake that - and the first ascent of Everest at the same time.)

And I'm only on page 3! I hear a voice saying, "But wait! There's more!"

 

[Andy_Ross]

More? free set of steak knives maybe?

 

[Jack by the hedge]

It's in western interests to secure oil resources. Long-term.

The oil is already flowing. Destabilising the producers doesn't secure anything.

Long-term those resources will run out and the oil will have to come from somewhere else. Short-to-medium term is what matters, and it makes zero sense to stir up trouble with unpredictable results.

 

[Cl1mh4224rd]

In response to the OP: That would be an interesting hypothesis -- the NWO starts up all these "revolutions" everywhere, which then becomes justification for invasions of those countries.

I must've missed the invasion of Egypt. And just how long are they going to wait on those other countries?

 

[Anders Lindman]

Anders, are you trying to lock down ALL the nominations for Teh March Stundies? This thread could be nominated unto itself.

One of the fun parts with conspiracy theories is that it allows for some wild speculations. I try to keep it within not too far-fetched limits though.

 

[Cl1mh4224rd]

One of the fun parts with conspiracy theories is that it allows for some wild speculations. I try to keep it within not too far-fetched limits though.

So is this thread just you exercising your imagination?

 

[Foolmewunz]

I must've missed the invasion of Egypt. And just how long are they going to wait on those other countries?

Silly, they have no oil. Now, Libya.....!

That's why the minute Teh Colonel started shooting his people we invaded from four sides and secured the resources. Oh, wait....

 

[Anders Lindman]

The oil is already flowing. Destabilising the producers doesn't secure anything.

Long-term those resources will run out and the oil will have to come from somewhere else. Short-to-medium term is what matters, and it makes zero sense to stir up trouble with unpredictable results.

The west wants to secure oil resources long-term. That means military invasion in the Middle East, Africa etc. Otherwise China will constitute a constant potential future threat, plus the oil producing countries themselves can become a threat if their oil production becomes disturbed. So the western leaders want to put military forces permanently in places where oil resources need to be guarded, both physically and politically.

 

[Jack by the hedge]

Retract was perhaps not a correct term.

It wasn't the term which was incorrect, it was your misidentification of the pressure wave moving outward through the air as being part of the mushroom cloud of dust and debris which was flatly wrong.

Watch when the mushroom cloud settles down, and the ordinary clouds remain intact! An atom bomb explosion is supposed to generate a tremendous pressure wave, yet the clouds within the area of the explosion remains floating peacefully and unharmed. C'mon, you can't seriously say that's a plausible scenario.

Yes I can. I already did, in fact.

Did you perhaps expect the clouds to be smashed to pieces and fall to the ground like broken window panes? Please explain exactly what effect you would expect a pressure wave passing through a cloud to have, and why. Feel free to give as detailed a description as you like. Thanks.

 

[Anders Lindman]

So is this thread just you exercising your imagination?

It's speculative, but I think it's a real possibility at least. Let's see what happens in the near future.

 

[Jack by the hedge]

One of the fun parts with conspiracy theories is that it allows for some wild speculations. I try to keep it within not too far-fetched limits though.

You could try a little harder, maybe.

 

[Anders Lindman]

It wasn't the term which was incorrect, it was your misidentification of the pressure wave moving outward through the air as being part of the mushroom cloud of dust and debris which was flatly wrong.


Yes I can. I already did, in fact.

Did you perhaps expect the clouds to be smashed to pieces and fall to the ground like broken window panes? Please explain exactly what effect you would expect a pressure wave passing through a cloud to have, and why. Feel free to give as detailed a description as you like. Thanks.

The clouds should have become totally evaporated before they would even become torn apart! I repeat: the scenario shown in the video is not plausible.

 

[Cl1mh4224rd]

It's speculative, but I think it's a real possibility at least. Let's see what happens in the near future.

I'll take that as a "yes".

Now... what if the reason for these staged instabilities is not oil, but ancient technology once possessed by our ancestors, given to them by alien visitors? Technology that's long since been lost, but perhaps recently discovered. The Middle East used be a great center of scholarship and science. Perhaps the known records of this are the after-echoes of this ancient technology; attempts to cling to a fading greatness. The instabilities could be used as a pretense to invade and secure these technologies for West.