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Rapture date: May 21, 2011. Exactly 7000 years from the Flood.

One Eyed Jack said:
The Rapture... ah, sweet joy...

Can anyone imagine a better world than one where all the fundies and Bible thumpers were suddenly whisked away? Heaven on Earth. Truly. Heavenly.
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If they get raptured at high speed does that make them velociraptures ? (yes, cheezy :) )
 
learner said:
Not if I get there first you wont! I get up real early. :D
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Gentlemen, gentlemen. Some decorum please.
There will be enough for everybody.

But I want that Full HD flat-screen TV. And the stash of BDSM porn from that fundi's basement. You guys can have stuff that isn't Blue-Ray.
 
Soapy Sam said:
If this means I miss the London Olympics, I'm in favour.
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A lot of us in the Chicago area were against the city's bid, not because it would bankrupt the city, but because of traffic.

Those of us who only work in the city but don't see city services, like snow plowing but still get parking tickets in poorly-marked areas so that's merely an excuse for the cops to write more tickets, are completely against anything that would increase our commute time, (You think it's easy to write run-on sentences that are properly punctuated? That should be a semicolon.); many of us recall the World Cup debacle a few years back and don't want a repeat that is ten times worse.
 
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Lanzy said:
Entered into my calendar May 22nd, 2011: Go get peoples stuff they left behind.
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I just did, too. I'm sad it's a Saturday. Why couldn't Jesus have waited until Monday? :mad:
 
kurious_kathy said:
While I believe Jesus will return sooner than people think, I know the bible says nobody is to try to specify the day or hour. I just hope others will see the urgency in the message even if we cannot know the day or hour. Judgement will surely come!
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How is it you guys see the part where he said that no one will know the day or hour but miss the part right before that where swore an oath it would be in that generation?

If I told you I'll post again by the end of next but I'm not sure what day, would you interpret that to mean that I don't intend to come back for 2,000 years??
 
kurious_kathy said:
While I believe Jesus will return sooner than people think, I know the bible says nobody is to try to specify the day or hour. I just hope others will see the urgency in the message even if we cannot know the day or hour. Judgement will surely come!
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RecoveringYuppy said:
How is it you guys see the part where he said that no one will know the day or hour but miss the part right before that where swore an oath it would be in that generation?

If I told you I'll post again by the end of next but I'm not sure what day, would you interpret that to mean that I don't intend to come back for 2,000 years??
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This was a question that dogged me while I believed, but the answer is pretty simple, once you get into the mindset.

When you get to the part about how a single day is as a thousand years to god, you realize that time can mean whatever a god-bot wants it to mean. Jesus could come back tomorrow, he could come back in a millennium. God, of course, is in charge, but just in case, we have to get our fingerprints all over this so we can claim whatever spiritual superiority we can. The human need to dominate and rule seem to always overrule the ideal that we are subject to the sovereignty of God Above. Remember: Jesus loves you, unless the ladies in the Altar Guild think you're lacking in holiness.

It's a fairly common game within the Church. It isn't about reaching the heights of the Divine, but about holding down others. It's selective, of course: Mike Warnke can still preach, even though he's been through multiple divorces, and Sandi Patti can still sing in Church, even though her first marriage ended because of her adultery. They can still bring in money with cries of repentance, but the rest of us mortals, flawed, broken, and in need of a little help now and then, are condemned forever by the Friends of Pastor, to be left on the fringe by those who were Saved.

The problem with this mindset is that unlike denying the Holy Spirit, this is the real blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, the whole business of laying claim to authority which to one isn't entitled. You'll be hard pressed to get them to admit it.
 
grayman said:
When these people predict a date, do they take into account the international dateline?
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I would imagine that the four horsemen will appear at the IDL at midnight and leap 1000 miles to the west every hour.

That's the only thing that makes any sense.
 
Eddie Dane said:
Gentlemen, gentlemen. Some decorum please.
There will be enough for everybody.

But I want that Full HD flat-screen TV. And the stash of BDSM porn from that fundi's basement. You guys can have stuff that isn't Blue-Ray.
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Nice try Eddie but I aint no Gentleman. :)
 
Eddie Dane said:
Gentlemen, gentlemen. Some decorum please.
There will be enough for everybody.

But I want that Full HD flat-screen TV. And the stash of BDSM porn from that fundi's basement. You guys can have stuff that isn't Blue-Ray.
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I get first pick of firearms. :) I'm not greedy, once I have four or five Thompsons and a complete assortment of the world's small arms you all can have the rest.
 
This Guy said:
Hey Roadtoad, I've not seen this claimed before. The 40 years old thing. Could you give me a source for it? I suspect it's inaccurate, but would like to see the arguments for it. Thanks!
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I reckon you'd be looking for a book called "Jesus the man." by Barbara Thiering. If you Google those two phrases, I think you'll find plenty of references.

She's a theologist from my neck of the woods, and I believe upset a lot of Christians with her theories.

:D
 
I've actually been raptured. Twice, as a matter of fact. Yeah, I had to get both sides done, but now they've got this plastic mesh they put in there and - What? Oh, you mean raptured. Nevermind.
 
I am gobstruck..

I dropped in to see what this forum thinks of the current Doomsday nut-jobs in Florida,after having checked the latest news on the CNN website.Are large groups of people in the U.S. completely insane? You rarely see this kind of thing in the other first world nations. I am amazed as well that people on this forum would devote so much intellectual talent to debunking mythology. Aren't your elaborate calculations the modern equivalent of counting angels that can dance on the head of a pin? Oh well,everyone needs a hobby,I suppose..
 
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I guess there's no point in making a comment on a CNN page. It's difficult to log in, and my most recent one was on for only a minute or two, Liked at least once already, and now I can't find it in the time slot I posted it.
 
I have to say, I have a certain amount of respect for these 21st-ers.

For people with eccentric beliefs, including religious and paranormal, it seems much more common for them to find ways to avoid testing their beliefs. To avoid putting anything on the line for their beliefs. To avoid putting themselves in a situation where they might have to admit they were wrong.

These people have done what is usually unthinkable in those circles: they've made a prediction, picked a date, and gone way way out of their way to advertise it. To everyone.

My best hope is that they will recover from this, question their beliefs and actions, and learn from this. I feel especially bad for the kids who are being dragged into it. But again, I hope their life after this is better for it, than their life before.
 
Denver said:
I have to say, I have a certain amount of respect for these 21st-ers.

For people with eccentric beliefs, including religious and paranormal, it seems much more common for them to find ways to avoid testing their beliefs. To avoid putting anything on the line for their beliefs. To avoid putting themselves in a situation where they might have to admit they were wrong.

These people have done what is usually unthinkable in those circles: they've made a prediction, picked a date, and gone way way out of their way to advertise it. To everyone.

My best hope is that they will recover from this, question their beliefs and actions, and learn from this. I feel especially bad for the kids who are being dragged into it. But again, I hope their life after this is better for it, than their life before.
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I agree,but it's a pity they don't step outside their comfort zones in support of a rational cause.Oh course,that can be said for the population at large.
 
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