The 100% Impossible 9/11 Inside Job

[beachnut]

I miss your 600% impossible mark.

Arguments are always a first sign of brain use. Repeating a corrected failure without understanding the "failure" is a clear sign of no brain use.

Data with 4.33gs and -2gs discontinuities? No comment on your failed data? You SPAM with Bush, Rice, UNOCAL, and more woo. Your delusional conspiracy theory based on nothing. SPAM and woo, is that a smoke screen for your failed data? Next time try to make up a story to go with your SPAM attack, as is it makes zero sense (except for you).

The extreme telephoto lens used on 911 video makes the straight in approach appear steep and curving, but looking at the ground track, it was a long straight in approach. Are you confused with the 6 degree of freedom flying reality? Don't mention the dive, it confirms you don't understand flying.

 

[George 152]

I miss your 600% impossible mark.

Arguments are always a first sign of brain use. Repeating a corrected failure without understanding the "failure" is a clear sign of no brain use.

Folks.
This is an insane Arab apologist for the 911 nutters.
No other explanation is possible

 

[twinstead]

Alright. It's official. The 9/11 inside job is now 650% impossible.

 

[carlitos]

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I know that Bush and Lay were in contact, so I'm not dismissing the possibility that they were photographed together with Cheney. But why does Lay look so different from the other two faces in this photo? Obviously, the podium is a photoshop, but is the face a photoshop too?

What was this supposed to prove?

 

[Regnad Kcin]

Well, those comments of course were to illustrate the fact that I was never on the 100% impossible bandwagon...

Sniff.

 

[beachnut]

...
Milt Bearden on 9/12:


... If the goal was to be bombed back into the stone age and to give the control over their homebase to the US and NATO then they 100% reached their goal.

UBL's goal was to kill American's and make us leave Saudi Arabia. Do you pay attention. UBL said so, please pay attention and stop posting failed new casts from 912.

The guy in the video thinks the terrorists who did 911 had an escape plan, and made a getaway. I was talking to the video! Looking back at his comments on 911 after 9 years shows how stupid it was to talk about who did it the next day. This is your evidence? Do you have any concept of time an evidence, facts and events?

Then you try to use a new cast from 912 about UBL, which actually says he is a valid suspect on the support side; do you watch your own failed propaganda?. And guess what we learned in the past 9 years? You have delusions on 911 and can't figure out 911. You use new casts from 912 to prove you have not figure out 911.

 

[twinstead]

Sniff.

99.875% maybe, but never 100%

 

[grandmastershek]

Was there any simpler, smaller, more secure and infinitely less risky method to achieving the same objective?

Maybe you should ask the first terrorist whoever hijacked an airliner? You guys always seem to forget that part.

 

[Sabretooth]

This whole thread is like the WOO motherload!

 

[Telltale Tom]

99.875% maybe, but never 100%

I think you are way out. If you just proportion it to the number of structural engineers, who care about this type of thing, then you get in NY State 3 out of 5,000, so I think its closer to 99.94%. But that doesn't mean that ae911truth is not the truth. It just means its likely to be not the truth.

Now some people might think I am quibling about nothing ... But I think Twinstead is overshooting our support by over 100%

 

[triforcharity]

I know that Bush and Lay were in contact, so I'm not dismissing the possibility that they were photographed together with Cheney. But why does Lay look so different from the other two faces in this photo? Obviously, the podium is a photoshop, but is the face a photoshop too?

What was this supposed to prove?

The face is certainly photoshopped. The skin tone difference between the hands and the face is glaring, as is the size.

Secondly, the President almost ALWAYS has a podium with the Presidential seal on it. If it is an official anouncement, he has his podium with the Presidential seal on it.

 

[achimspok]

... instead of having to over-correct ...

Wow, using words without knowing the meaning is beautiful.
I guess the plane had to rise because it was too low?

 

[achimspok]

Well, those comments of course were to illustrate the fact that I was never on the 100% impossible bandwagon; satire requires brain use, does it not?

It does. Satire is the comedy of failing value systems and their institutions.

Well, here's the problem: IMO what I see is that it is YOU who is repeating a corrected failure without understanding the "failure"; your arrogant implications that the very people who are correcting your "failure" aren't using their brains is a clear sign of no brain use.

The failure is?
Is it the 30m positional failure Beachnut squared to show the inconsistency of velocity?
Why is it that he defends the NIST bullets and trendlines at the same time while NIST obviously missed the difference between horizontal and vertical.

Do you see the failure?

It's all subjective, I guess. My only response to folks like you blathering on relatively obscure internet forums is that there will be no consensus in this debate here, and the commonly-held narrative of 9-11 pretty much stands, so you'd better convince someone who actually can do something about it that you are right, otherwise you and the little group who think like you will never rise above cult status.

Just sayin'

The little group is somewhat >60% of world population who do not believe that offiCIAl nonsense. In other words, there is no need to convince anyone. There is a need to find out what really happened based on the known pieces as long as the evidence is classified and withhold from the public.

Do you think the terrorists were surprised that the US bombed their homebase? Do you think that was the goal of planning an attack for years?
Well, it's satire.

 

[achimspok]

If you haven't realized that the truth movement is a dead duck then your brain can't be up to much.

I guess you mean "truth movement" in the sense of all that nonsense like holograms and space beams and bouncing airplanes and moving bridges. Thanks god that planted nonsense is almost over.
Now we have to face nonsense like bouncing passports.

 

[Scott Sommers]

I guess you mean "truth movement" in the sense of all that nonsense like holograms and space beams and bouncing airplanes and moving bridges. Thanks god that planted nonsense is almost over.
Now we have to face nonsense like bouncing passports.

Real questions here,
1. Do you really feel that most advocates of this stuff don't ascribe to laser beams or nuclear bombs or that sort of thing?
2. Do you really think more than a handful of people believe in this stuff? Recent polls found that 15% of Americans endorse items about about a CD of the WTC buildings. This is way down from pervious years.
3. Do you really think most firefighters or police believe or air traffic controllers believe in this stuff?

 

[achimspok]

Which is why you cant seem to explain your calculations that failed. (which still dont prove or have any meaning)

I explained it. I corrected it. If you ignoring explanation and correction it is a whole different story than "you cant seem to..."

If he was an expert pilot he would have lined up miles out and not had to make such a drastic dive and turn towards the end. I could fly a B52 in a flight simulator and do a better job.

You can be Luke Skywalker in the PC version of Clone Wars but ihe drastic dive wasn't towards the end. It already descended at that high rate at the turning point G. There was no sloppy approach at all.

 

[achimspok]

Real questions here,
1. Do you really feel that most advocates of this stuff don't ascribe to laser beams or nuclear bombs or that sort of thing?

I guess you refer to a handful of advocats. The sad thing I observed, there is a massive media campaign to support the official story without hard evidence. It almost ever works due to ridiculing some opposite views like that funny stuff. So you have a good chance to tell the known serious 50% of the official story as the "whole truth" by rediculing seemingly all opposite views. I'm not sure If or how many of these funny theories are planted to do exactly that. e.g. the No Plane theory is that easy to debunk that the temporarily success and the massive campaign-like effort of 4-5 guys IMO is very suspicious. For me it looks like a PR campaign to redicule any serious question by throwing it publicly in that pot. It's pretty easy to do.
And if that do not help alone then you just need to mention alleged Holocaust denial.

2. Do you really think more than a handful of people believe in this stuff? Recent polls found that 15% of Americans endorse items about about a CD of the WTC buildings. This is way down from pervious years.

I don't know if anyone really believe in this stuff as long as we talk about No Planes and Spacebeams. I'm sceptical about the possibility of CD. I'm much more skeptical about the described initiation models. I see WTC7 going down in 4 pieces and every piece simply starts to fall. There is something to explain.

3. Do you really think most firefighters or police believe or air traffic controllers believe in this stuff?

2004 CNN Poll: 90% believe in Coverup
2007 MSNBC 63% believe in Coverup

But polls are a little bit problematic.

2006: Zogby Poll: 51% Of Americans Want New 9/11 Investigation

Poll sponsors see knowledge of the collapse of World Trade Center Building 7 as a bellwether issue, because if people do not know this elementary fact, they have probably not been exposed to any independent 9/11 research at all. Since only 52% of respondents had ever heard of this collapse and 45% support a reinvestigation, it may be reasonably inferred that a public fully informed of all the unreported 9/11 facts might support a new investigation by a margin of 80% or more.

In the end there is just a little group who deals with these problems. The rest depends 99% on mass media reports. The mass media depends on politics. Politics depend on interests.

 

[twinstead]

The little group is somewhat >60% of world population who do not believe that offiCIAl nonsense. In other words, there is no need to convince anyone. There is a need to find out what really happened based on the known pieces as long as the evidence is classified and withhold from the public.

BS. You are overstating your support (remember, you don't JUST believe that we weren't told all that there is to be told about 9-11, you think the US government actively carried out 9-11 and blamed it on Muslim extremists) in order to give the false impression you have some kind of moral imperative. I'll repeat: You can say you have support, you can say anything you want, you can be as arrogant and condescending as you want. Actions speak way louder than words. Either get somebody to investigate, or write yourself a picket sign and join the other 7 people who would agree to be with you and get to the streets and protest "9-11 was an inside job".

Do it NOW.

Do you think the terrorists were surprised that the US bombed their homebase? Do you think that was the goal of planning an attack for years?
Well, it's satire.

You're kidding, right? That was EXACTLY the goal of the terrorists. This was one of the largest "stirring the pot" missions in history. Do you think ANY offensive ever in military history that risked a counter attack on ones homebase never happened?

the conflagration in the Mideast that the 9-11 attacks caused is what they wanted. That's why they are called terrorists. The world's bad opinion of the US is what they wanted, and that's what they got. They have useful idiots like you apologizing for them. That's what they wanted, and that's what they got.

So you keep on keeping on, bro, mkay?

 

[achimspok]

UBL's goal was to kill American's and make us leave Saudi Arabia. Do you pay attention. UBL said so, please pay attention and stop posting failed new casts from 912.

And you think UBL was able to be that stupid to believe the US will leave?
That's your best so far.

The guy in the video thinks the terrorists who did 911 had an escape plan, and made a getaway. I was talking to the video! Looking back at his comments on 911 after 9 years shows how stupid it was to talk about who did it the next day. This is your evidence? Do you have any concept of time an evidence, facts and events?

ISI General Ahmad made a brilliant getaway.

The CIA guy in the video had a pretty clear view about UBLs capabilities.
...but of course you have no problem to rely on Jack Kelley and Neil Livingston on 9/11.

"concept of time an evidence, facts and events":
CIA cooperated with UBL for years up to 9/11
CIA managed the visas in Jerba
CIA connected to ISI connected to Omar, KSM, Atta
CIA stopped Able Danger

Hence, find the guy who staged as crop duster Atta and you will find some truth. Bring General Ahmad to justice just like Bush said he will!

Then you try to use a new cast from 912 about UBL, which actually says he is a valid suspect on the support side; do you watch your own failed propaganda?. And guess what we learned in the past 9 years? You have delusions on 911 and can't figure out 911. You use new casts from 912 to prove you have not figure out 911.

...a valid suspect on the support side?
You have valid evidence on the support side and you have an invastigation that says there is "no practical use" of these evidence. So you have the second row of supporters called "9/11 Commission". And you have youself and your simplistic view in the third row.
Here you are believing in stolen identities and correction fluid. You have no answer on a single question I asked. All you do is repeating your constructed g-failure nonsense.

You tell me that UBL was a valid suspect on the support side? He still is but without any evidence that he really was a supporter.

"UBL's goal was to kill American's and make us leave Saudi Arabia."

...that's why he is shooting scud missiles at US airforce bases in Saudi Arabia all the time. Oh, the last attack in Saudi Arabia happened in 1996 and it was done by the Hezbollah.

Follow the money!
CUI BONO?

 

[achimspok]

That was EXACTLY the goal of the terrorists.

It simply makes no sense.

This was one of the largest "stirring the pot" missions in history. Do you think ANY offensive ever in military history that risked a counter attack on ones homebase never happened?

...ANY offensive ever in military history that risked a counter attack first asked about the chances to succeed.

the conflagration in the Mideast that the 9-11 attacks caused is what they wanted.

UBL wanted the US to bomb the Taliban and Afghanistan into the ground finally succeeding with the pipline plans and installing the CIA/Unocal brothers as president and drug lord? UBL gave a pretext to invade Iraq? That's what he wanted?
Well, you might be right. But if so then it wasn't any islamic interest, right?

That's why they are called terrorists. The world's bad opinion of the US is what they wanted, and that's what they got. They have useful idiots like you apologizing for them. That's what they wanted, and that's what they got.

So you keep on keeping on, bro, mkay?

I do not apologizing for UBL.
I do not apologizing for the Atta's paymasters.
I do not apologizing for the visa and passport frauds.

"They" have useful idiots like you believing that Abdulazzis used a stolen Adulazzis-identity of another Abdulazzis with the same birthday since Abdul Rahman left the country and an Atta parking lot.
That's what "they" want you to believe, and that's what they got.