Muslim researcher explains how 9/11 was made

Regnad Kcin said:
I would initially guess Endora was behind the subterfuge, but there was no doubt Larry Tate (a Jew) planned it all along, releasing the secret gas in Darrin 1's dressing room, allowing Darrin 2 to take the unconcious Darrin's place. The body of Darrin 1 was never recovered from the scene, indicating he is still alive, though afraid to come forward. Furthermore, Larry's wife Gladys worked under cover of the related commotion to install a Tomahawk guidance system in Samantha's broom, knowing Samantha's sister Serena, a witch herself, would be blamed when it crashed. All witches and warlocks are innocent and would never harm others.

My completely imaginary research proves all this.
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Don't be naive, the two Darrins (let's call them "Darwin" and "Derwood") were just patsies. You are totally forgetting to factor in the two Mrs. Kravitz's. Connect the dots. Follow the money. Who stood to gain by this? We are through the looking glass, people!
 
mehmetin said:
The gassing of the pilots and passengers is my own research and I made everything to make technically possible and consistent with all known strong evidence. If anyone spoken that subject here, it could not be same as mine. So I ask you to consider only my words and try to debunk them. I am not related to the claims of other people.
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I still maintain that your ideology (i.e., Muslims can't or wouldn't commit large scale terror attacks) and your argument from incredulity ("I don't understand how the pilots could have had their throats cut, therefore they must have died via poison gas") is forcing you to adopt counter theories which are at best wildly far-fetched. You are basically saying "I believe X is impossible therefore Y must be true" and yet you have provided no evidence to prove that Y is true. It's not enough to say that you believe that poison gas and tomahawk guidance systems explain how the jets were taken out of the pilot's control. You actually have to find actual evidence of the gas or the alterations made to the aircraft. It may seem to you unfair, but I suspect that if you were on trial for a crime you did not commit, you wouldn't stand for it if the prosecution based their entire case on how they imagine the crime must have been committed, but with no actual evidence to support it.
 
JohnG said:
Don't be naive, the two Darrins (let's call them "Darwin" and "Derwood") were just patsies. You are totally forgetting to factor in the two Mrs. Kravitz's. Connect the dots. Follow the money. Who stood to gain by this? We are through the looking glass, people!
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The I have right now is how many rear-end accidents have been prevented by the presence of the "Baby on Board" warning placards?
 
mehmetin said:
You can tell us something like "I never saw such thing", "I never imagined such thing", "I am unable to produce such thing", ...

But you can not tell "That's impossible; you must believe me, I am an ex aircraft technician!".

Any way, we are waiting reasons why such control is impossible?
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You would do well to take your own advice. We are waiting for reasons why the bat **** crazy things you say are possible.
 
Originally Posted by mehmetin
My work is consistent with all known strong evidence.

:D...ahh...a comedian I see.
 
mehmetin said:
If you can explain the succession of the hijack by another mean than using such automatic control system, I am ready to review my work.

Don't forget, you must get strong evidence that is consistent with all available evidence and it must not be based low probability actions, it must be 100% reliable and easy to make.
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Who are you to dictate anything when you won't, don't and can't hold your own delusional claims to this standard?
 
mehmetin said:
If you can explain the succession of the hijack by another mean than using such automatic control system, I am ready to review my work.

Don't forget, you must get strong evidence that is consistent with all available evidence and it must not be based low probability actions, it must be 100% reliable and easy to make.
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Yes, Muslims we saw board the planes took box cutters (we know from phone calls from the planes) took the aircraft by threatening to blow it up, killed the pilots, and flew them into buildings. Muslims did this. It's frankly intellectually cowardly to make up some bizarre fairy story to avoid facing the truth that there is a branch within Islam capable of this level of depravity. Your idea that Muslims can't be responsible for this because history says they don't do it is demonstrably false. Attaturk knew this about Islam, that's why Turkey is secular.
 
Muslims in Turkey are often sweet and kind souls who listen to sanitised Friday sermons written by the Directorate of Religious Affairs and read by imams selected and educated by the same state body. There are none(?) of these firebrand types of sermon reminding the congregation of the evils of the infidel (Jews and Americans in particular) while calling on them to take up the fight for their oppressed Muslim brothers and sisters.

Perhaps this is why so many of them doubt "the official story".
 
The tomahawk systems were installed before 9/11/2001 and they were in sleeping mode before they were activated. During that time, the planes can takeoff and land as a normal plane.
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And it wasn't spotted by any of the engineers and technicians that worked on the aircraft? Do you know what a 'Type Certificate' is and how it makes all aircraft that are certified the same? Any extra equipment would have been spotted.

I want you to show me some support for your strong cables that rtun round the aircaft as well, this isn't a Sopwith Camel we are talking about.
 
To Mehemet, a 757 IS a Sopwith Camel! They are all aeroplanes, ergo they are all built the same way and work the same way.

Tally-ho! Chocks away!
 
Sideroxylon said:
Muslims in Turkey are often sweet and kind souls who listen to sanitised Friday sermons written by the Directorate of Religious Affairs and read by imams selected and educated by the same state body. There are none(?) of these firebrand types of sermon reminding the congregation of the evils of the infidel (Jews and Americans in particular) while calling on them to take up the fight for their oppressed Muslim brothers and sisters.
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Yea, but I'll bet Turkey has its share of firebrands and extremists.

It isn't the imams whose opinions I would listen to concerning 9-11 anyway; this is an issue for science. I'd be much more interested in what the respected engineering and scientific communities in Turkey have to say.
 
mehmetin said:
First time people told me the presence of such cables, I was also surprised. But after verification, it appeared that this was true and is still true in B757 and B767.

Also, they will not transport high pressure hydraulic tubes all around the plane! Using strong cables, that could be a strong and reliable way to transport the movements up to the wings.
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You're going to need to back this statement up. I just got off the phone with a Delta service tech and he says your wrong. The only cables link to control valves in an area that has no extra room for any additional parts (just below the control column).

You claim to have evidence to the contrary. Post it or we can all assume you made this up.
 
twinstead said:
Yea, but I'll bet Turkey has its share of firebrands and extremists.

It isn't the imams whose opinions I would listen to concerning 9-11 anyway; this is an issue for science. I'd be much more interested in what the respected engineering and scientific communities in Turkey have to say.
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It no doubt does have them but it seems to me that a lot of pious types follow rather moderate leaders. A lot of these people see Islam as a religion of peace and are sceptical to varying degrees that 9-11 was perpetrated by Muslims. On this topic I am often told very lame things like, "Have you heard that Jews didn't go to work in the towers that day?" I reckon that these kind of things don't seem to strike them as odd (and therefore not the focus of sceptical scrutiny) because they slot in tidily within a web of belief where shadowy figures run the world. Bookshops seem to have a disappointing number of titles on the Masons and secret Jews. All kinds of conspiracies seem rife in this part of the world.

I haven't seen any public "truther" comments from engineers or scientists but I would like to see a survey on their beliefs. My guess is that these ideas would be more common among such professionals here than the U.S.
 
twinstead said:
Yea, but I'll bet Turkey has its share of firebrands and extremists.

It isn't the imams whose opinions I would listen to concerning 9-11 anyway; this is an issue for science. I'd be much more interested in what the respected engineering and scientific communities in Turkey have to say.
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There's a significant number of lunatics in Turkey that want to de-evolve to the Stone Ages of the other Islamic countries.
 
DGM said:
Originally Posted by mehmetin
Yes, you are right. That's why they can not use autopilot which is weak and could not remove a dead pilot body. And that's why they should have used very strong non reversible worm reducer. The movements are very slow, with very small power and such reduction they can get strong torque and push the body of a dead pilot.

And naturally these "non reversible worm reducer" would not attach themselves to the cables until after the pilots were dead.
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What's the problem? Isn't it able to create such mechanics to crimp on the cables? Is such system impossible to poduce?

Sure, such system could be produced without any problem and it's extremely reliable.
 
Justin39640 said:
This idea kinda blew my mind. Got a link? lol
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I don't, but I've often seen it in the context of ancient construction, specifically the pyramids at Giza. Some people just think that straight lines are something only a technologically advanced civilization can accomplish.

DGM said:
You're going to need to back this statement up. I just got off the phone with a Delta service tech and he says your wrong. The only cables link to control valves in an area that has no extra room for any additional parts (just below the control column).

You claim to have evidence to the contrary. Post it or we can all assume you made this up.
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mehmetin claimed "after verification". Did he ever explain how he verified that information?
 
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I Ratant said:
And apparently not informing the "muscle hijackers" that they would be enjoying those 72 virgins at the end of the flight.
They even murder their own.
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Only non Muslim minded people could think to such question of 72 virgins. That does not exist in the Quran and if it exists in the hadiths it is false hadith.

The only meaning of such goodness promising verses is that if men make heir action to be the goodness then whole world becomes peaceful like the heaven. What’s wrong in such meaning? Nothing! Because we are responsible on our actions and we get their consequences in return.

If you want the world become the hell, you just need to make all your actions bad. You’ll see very quickly that you live in the hell.
 
mehmetin said:
What's the problem? Isn't it able to create such mechanics to crimp on the cables? Is such system impossible to poduce?

Sure, such system could be produced without any problem and it's extremely reliable.
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Please see my post #714. You need to produce some evidence a place to install your "device" exists.
 
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