Muslim researcher explains how 9/11 was made

[mehmetin]

Originally Posted by mehmetin
You want discuss with us? Tell us how and why cell phones work at altitude. Then we can discuss.

For me, the follwing reasons proves they don't work :
1- For energy reduction and better reception of the ground located phones, the antennas are horizontally guided.
2- The speed of the planes is so much quick that the plane gets out of one antenna before create any connection.

1. The horizontal beam is not infinitely narrow, and arctan(.7) = 35 degrees. (Note: 35,000 feet / 10 miles is about .7.)
2. In rural areas, cells are up to 75 miles in diameter. At 350 mph, the aircraft would be within range for more than ten minutes. (Note: A K Dewdney conducted his experiments in an urban area, where cells were about 1/4 mile in diameter.)

The propagated wave is horizontal with an angle of 6 to 8°. That means your 35degrees is false. The signals are horizontal, with 4° upward direction. Let's sya there is 10° upward signal. That's always impossible to reach 35000ft altitude.

http://www.powerwave.com/search/dat...e=Dual_Triple_Broadband_Cross_03&FileName=TBB

Culllular phone calls are lies, official lies of the official USA government under Bush administration who killed hiw own citizen. When will you charge Bush? Or will you leave such criminals die by natural death?

 

[mehmetin]

Thanks W.D. Clinger.

You are very quick to follow the lies!

Having flown on private jets more than a few times, I can personally attest that cellphones in 2001 worked at high altitude. Asserting otherwise is just non-factual.

You can only lie, you can attest nothing.

 

[DGM]

The propagated wave is horizontal with an angle of 6 to 8°. That means your 35degrees is false. The signals are horizontal, with 4° upward direction. Let's sya there is 10° upward signal. That's always impossible to reach 35000ft altitude.

http://www.powerwave.com/search/dat...e=Dual_Triple_Broadband_Cross_03&FileName=TBB

Culllular phone calls are lies, official lies of the official USA government under Bush administration who killed hiw own citizen. When will you charge Bush? Or will you leave such criminals die by natural death?

What about Betty Ong? That was not a cell phone.

 

[mehmetin]

Just as long as any Muslims don't have to take the blame, right? I see on your website that you also deny any Muslim involvement in the London and Madrid bombings.

These are not evidence. Justice must be made for 9/11 New York, 3/11 Madrid and 7/7 London bombings. Th only one which got some kind of justice wasMadrid bombings, and the decision was a lie, it was shame for spanish justice.

 

[mehmetin]

None of what you say is an argument for you. Some reasons..

No jewish family has come forth... because they were in on it? That's why they didn't die..
Saudi families would report anything that would help them maintain power, and they have very close business ties to Bush.

The muslim researcher isn't antisemitic, he's antizionist. The zionists have been using the antisemitic card for far too long and people need to start understanding the difference.

The muslims in the UK 'denounce it' because the whole world sees them as terrorists even though they did nothing as individuals. How would the world react if they started saying they didn't do it? It'd probably make everything even worse.

The 'taliban accept who did it and glout?' Yeah.. all they care about is their opium poppy fields.

For someone who claims to be psychologically balanced and peaceful, you need to rethink basically everything you've said.

It's nice to se clever people.

 

[DGM]

It's nice to se clever people.

It's funny you say that. You counter a lot of his points on your site.

 

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- Suicide tapes could be produced today. You did not watched Shreck, Avatar, Terminator 2, ... The precision of the suicide videos is so bad that often it's only necessary to change the face in the video and the job is done. The voice changing software does the sound. It looks true, but it's not.

- The cellular phone calls are impossible from the planes flying at about 30000ft.

Read a little.

- The events happened inside USA, the information given by other countries, which are allies of USA and under the orders of USA, are not evidence.

I do not expect Saudis give true information against USA.

- Moussaoui trial was out of justice rules, it was not impartial. Finally he made appeal.

The lawyer was imposed to him, finally he fdefended himself without lawyer, in the last time the lawyer of the government tried to influence the jury, the shown evidence is fake (for example the cutter alleged to be found in UA93 crash site, the bandanas alleged to be used by terrorists, ...), he was forced to plead guilty to escape military court! .......................

- Bin Ladin tape is fake.

The tape found in november 2001 is fake, the person is not OBL. It's a computer production.

Regarding what you quoted, this post is NOT "presenting evidence". It's called "repeating ad nauseam".

And stating 9/11 was an inside job because a movie released nine years later or a cartoon show great CGI deserves to be nominated for the Stundies award.

 

[mehmetin]

Anyone who blames the Jews for tragedies, disasters, & crimes are comparable to the Nazi Regime of WWII.

Truthers + Jew hating = Nazi scumbags! Nuff said!

Zionists, who are working since 1870ies and before, are able of all kind of crimes. We should expect that they were involved in all the crimes happened since 1870. But as they come by crimes, they should continue their crimes, and 9/11 was one of the last crimes made by Zionists.

Unfortunately Zionists are mainly using Jewish people for their plots. By that they are creating huge conflicts between Jews and Muslims. Do not forget, when Jews were expelled from Spain, they moved to Morocco and Ottoman Empire which are both Muslims. With such unlimited crimes made by Zionists we should expect to get big problems between Muslims and Jews.

I hope that justice will be made as soon as possible before it becomes too late. Without justice, do not expect to get peace. I can imagine that some Zionists feel themselves strong enough to resist to other wars and so they can work to start more wars. I hope humanity will overcome the influence of Zionists and will install true peace on the earth.

 

[twinstead]

So all I see you do mehmetin is repeat your claims every time somebody asks for evidence of them. That's what my 5 year old child does.

You make some specific claims. SUPPORT THEM.

1. provide evidence that the OBL tape was fake
2. provide evidence that the evidence presented during the Moussaoui trial was fake
3. explain why it is okay for you to ignore any evidence from the US or its allies simply because of where it's from.
4. provide evidence that the cell phone calls were impossible.

All you are doing is rationalizing to yourself how you can ignore evidence that is contrary to your position. This is what ideologues do. This is not what rational investigators do. Stop it.

 

[mehmetin]

And these systems are where exactly and activated how ?
A link to an illustration of the aircrafts instrument panel and the particular control marked should suffice...

See that post http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6901577&postcount=513

 

[DGM]

So all I see you do mehmetin is repeat your claims every time somebody asks for evidence of them. That's what my 5 year old child does.

You make some specific claims. SUPPORT THEM.

1. provide evidence that the OBL tape was fake
2. provide evidence that the evidence presented during the Moussaoui trial was fake
3. explain why it is okay for you to ignore any evidence from the US or its allies simply because of where it's from.
4. provide evidence that the cell phone calls were impossible.

All you are doing is rationalizing to yourself how you can ignore evidence that is contrary to your position. This is what ideologues do. This is not what rational investigators do. Stop it.

Add
Provide evidence that the airphone calls were also fake.

 

[twinstead]

I hope that justice will be made as soon as possible before it becomes too late. Without justice, do not expect to get peace. I can imagine that some Zionists feel themselves strong enough to resist to other wars and so they can work to start more wars. I hope humanity will overcome the influence of Zionists and will install true peace on the earth.

If you want to blame all your problems on the Jews go right ahead. In the meantime, perhaps you and your fellow Muslims should, like some are already doing in Tunisia, Egypt, and Libya, focus on fixing your own problems instead of blaming the "zionists".

In the mean time, quit accusing innocent people of mass murder on false evidence and ideology; it's not nice and not conducive to peace.

 

[mehmetin]

Pretty much everyone here has done just that. Nearly every single one disagrees with your theory, whether truther or "debunker". What does that tell you?

None of them made so long investigation as I did! Or, may be you made such investigation?

 

[mehmetin]

What about Betty Ong? That was not a cell phone.

Made by the same computer which produced the cellular phone calls.

 

[mehmetin]

You did not watched Shreck, Avatar, Terminator 2, ...


Regarding what you quoted, this post is NOT "presenting evidence". It's called "repeating ad nauseam".

And stating 9/11 was an inside job because a movie released nine years later or a cartoon show great CGI deserves to be nominated for the Stundies award.

Terminator 2 was in 1991, 10 years before 9/11/2001!

 

[DGM]

Made by the same computer which produced the cellular phone calls.

So your plan is to "prove" everything with opinion and if it's goes against your idea call it fake or planted. Way to go, you've created a perfect world for yourself.

 

[carlitos]

I'd reply to his calling me a liar but it's pointless. We are seeing the dregs of a dying movement here.

 

[mehmetin]

So all I see you do mehmetin is repeat your claims every time somebody asks for evidence of them. That's what my 5 year old child does.

You make some specific claims. SUPPORT THEM.

1. provide evidence that the OBL tape was fake

See slide 61 of my power point.

2. provide evidence that the evidence presented during the Moussaoui trial was fake

The cutter was fake.

The bandana was fake too.

That bandana is laughing scenario! Terrorist to put bandana on their head! Exactly like a Hollywood movie! 4 people need bandana to recognize themselves!

3. explain why it is okay for you to ignore any evidence from the US or its allies simply because of where it's from.

Because Bush administration is guilty of terror attack on American citizen, they’ll force all their allies to lie and produce fake evidence. I must admit that Colin Powell resigned when he understood that he was forced to lie before UN about Iraqi WMD. He preferred to get out of that group of criminals.

4. provide evidence that the cell phone calls were impossible.

You are dishonest here. How many times I repeated it and proved it. See the last one here http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6905842&postcount=581

 

[Thunder]

there is only one thing you guys should be saying to this fellow:

"where is your evidence?"

that's it. everyone should be saying it in unison.

it should be the only reply he ever sees. eventually, someday..he will get the point.

 

[carlitos]

It's really sad what this cult has done to google search results. An image search for "GTE airfone" yields mostly 9/11 truthy stuff. Misspelling it "airphone" yields entirely truthy stuff, including for some reason that cab driver by the Pentagon.