Warring No planer factions- Shansksville and Pentagon no-planers vs WTC no planers

Anders Lindman said:
Ha! There you are mistaken. Maybe you will think I have gone hyper paranoid but I believe most 'famous' conspiracy researchers are controlled opposition, i.e. untrustworthy authorities. The moon landings are off topic, but let me just add that AIDS is a total hoax too!!! :D (Now people will maybe think I'm a complete tinfoil hat kook, but there are some serious facts supporting those claims.)
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Oh no that statement hasn't changed our opinion of you. It just confirmed it.
 
jaydeehess said:
Hamburg, Germany, a 747 travelling much slower than the a/c on 9/11 hit an apartment building and rammed right through out. All but a small amount of debris was on the exit side.
Concrete foors and much more substantial interior walls than WTC though a much less thick building.
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Did you mean Amsterdam? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Al_Flight_1862
What a mess. Looks like the Israelis might have been practicing as per Nein/11 and our new "researcher" from the Mid East. :D
 
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tsig said:
Why didn't the conspirators place black boxes there?
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A bold suggestion is that only the attack on the WTC was the actual attack and that the incidents at the Pentagon and near Shanksville were only smokescreen events as a part of the cover-up. And that the initial perpetrators didn't have access to advanced things like real black boxes or the equipment needed to program them with fake flight data and voice recordings etc.
 
Anders Lindman said:
A bold suggestion is that only the attack on the WTC was the actual attack and that the incidents at the Pentagon and near Shanksville were only smokescreen events as a part of the cover-up. And that the initial perpetrators didn't have access to advanced things like real black boxes or the equipment needed to program them with fake flight data and voice recordings etc.
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Evidence please.
 
Anders Lindman said:
A bold suggestion is that only the attack on the WTC was the actual attack and that the incidents at the Pentagon and near Shanksville were only smokescreen events as a part of the cover-up. And that the initial perpetrators didn't have access to advanced things like real black boxes or the equipment needed to program them with fake flight data and voice recordings etc.
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But they had access to lots of aircraft parts that match 767s along with a jet engine cannon powered by dynamite and managed to spread this debris all over ground zero. Strange how they had access to millions of dollars to pay for all the ninjaneers to plant tons of thermite and explosives, bribe thousands involved in the set up, pay for an expensive never done before 3D from all angles David Copperfield magic trick fooling thousands of eyewitnesses, pay for CGI and then magically get that broadcast into every home on the planet including private video footage, etc, etc, etc :jaw-dropp

Yep, they pulled of the most complicated expensive crime in the history of mankind including fake RADAR and DNA data but didn't have the capacity to get hold of some black boxes. Funny how you manage to show how your own argument falls apart.
 
Sunstealer said:
Yep, they pulled of the most complicated expensive crime in the history of mankind including fake RADAR and DNA data but didn't have the capacity to get hold of some black boxes. Funny how you manage to show how your own argument falls apart.
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Well............they do have serial numbers and............you just can't make that stuff up.


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Sunstealer said:
But they had access to lots of aircraft parts that match 767s along with a jet engine cannon powered by dynamite and managed to spread this debris all over ground zero. Strange how they had access to millions of dollars to pay for all the ninjaneers to plant tons of thermite and explosives, bribe thousands involved in the set up, pay for an expensive never done before 3D from all angles David Copperfield magic trick fooling thousands of eyewitnesses, pay for CGI and then magically get that broadcast into every home on the planet including private video footage, etc, etc, etc :jaw-dropp

Yep, they pulled of the most complicated expensive crime in the history of mankind including fake RADAR and DNA data but didn't have the capacity to get hold of some black boxes. Funny how you manage to show how your own argument falls apart.
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I think they only could get hold of some few things like a landing gear, a part of a jet engine of wrong type and perhaps a few more items. The rest of the parts were planted afterward as a part of the cover-up.
 
Anders Lindman said:
I think they only could get hold of some few things like a landing gear, a part of a jet engine of wrong type and perhaps a few more items. The rest of the parts were planted afterward as a part of the cover-up.
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I know if I were going to stage a plane crash the first thing I'd do would be to get the wrong parts and then plant them. :rolleyes:
 
EventHorizon said:
I know if I were going to stage a plane crash the first thing I'd do would be to get the wrong parts and then plant them. :rolleyes:
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But I don't think the perpetrators had much resources. Those who were forced to do a cover-up after the initial attack however have enormous resources (the U.S. government including the military, academia plus the big media networks and other large corporations etc).
 
Anders Lindman said:
Maybe you will think I have gone hyper paranoid but I believe most 'famous' conspiracy researchers are controlled opposition, i.e. untrustworthy authorities. The moon landings are off topic, but let me just add that AIDS is a total hoax too!!! :D (Now people will maybe think I'm a complete tinfoil hat kook, ..)
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Nah, whatever would make us think that you were a paranoid tinfoil hat kook?:rolleyes:

You might want to check out this guy's work - maybe you two could collaborate and really get some action on the 9/11 conspiracy!
 
alienentity said:
Nah, whatever would make us think that you were a paranoid tinfoil hat kook?:rolleyes:

You might want to check out this guy's work - maybe you two could collaborate and really get some action on the 9/11 conspiracy!
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I took a look at that website and they don't believe in the no planes theory it seems. That's ok with me, since what if the no planes theory after all is wrong. I believe the no planes scenario is the truth, but I'm not 100% sure, so it's good imo to have several competing theories.
 
Anders Lindman said:
But I don't think the perpetrators had much resources. Those who were forced to do a cover-up after the initial attack however have enormous resources (the U.S. government including the military, academia plus the big media networks and other large corporations etc).
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What evidence exists to support a conspiracy by anyone other than Al Qaida to carry out the attacks on 9/11? What evidence exists to support the conclusion that there was a cover up?
 
Anders your denial of the very existence anything that might put your theories into doubt is humorous to me.
 
Anders Lindman said:
The evidence, quite speculative but anyway, is that the black boxes were missing at Ground Zero.
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If I recall correctly, one of the black boxes was not recovered in the Amsterdam crash either. Evidently, buildings do not like black boxes.
 
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