Warring No planer factions- Shansksville and Pentagon no-planers vs WTC no planers

Anders Lindman said:
Ha. I know that the question about Thermite has been debated for years. But one interesting thing I noticed now is that the Rense article talked about white smoke, and lo and behold, the white smoke came from floor 81! Maybe.
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So then the only explanation for white smoke would be thermite?
 
Craig4 said:
So you've accused the nice people at Fuji bank of mass murder and you don't know if they planted thermite either.
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No, even if there was thermite planted on floor 81, it's not certain that it was anyone working for Fuji Bank who was guilty. It could even have been thermite disguised as UPS batteries! :D That would be a bit far-fetched, but the point is that it's not certain who to blame even if it can be proven that thermite was used on floor 81 in the South Tower.

Why would they need tons of thermite, and only on one or two floors in each building? The answer is that the thermite was there to weaken the steel on that floor to ensure that a collapse would start and start at that floor.
 
Anders Lindman said:
No, even if there was thermite planted on floor 81, it's not certain that it was anyone working for Fuji Bank who was guilty. It could even have been thermite disguised as UPS batteries! :D That would be a bit far-fetched, but the point is that it's not certain who to blame even if it can be proven that thermite was used on floor 81 in the South Tower.

Why would they need tons of thermite, and only on one or two floors in each building? The answer is that the thermite was there to weaken the steel on that floor to ensure that a collapse would start and start at that floor.
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And you have evidence of this?
 
Anders Lindman said:
No, even if there was thermite planted on floor 81, it's not certain that it was anyone working for Fuji Bank who was guilty. It could even have been thermite disguised as UPS batteries! :D That would be a bit far-fetched, but the point is that it's not certain who to blame even if it can be proven that thermite was used on floor 81 in the South Tower.

Why would they need tons of thermite, and only on one or two floors in each building? The answer is that the thermite was there to weaken the steel on that floor to ensure that a collapse would start and start at that floor.
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Somehow I just know that Anders thinks that iron oxide (rust) is "proof" of thermite.

Actually thermite was produced for use as a welding tool:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermite

History

The thermite reaction was discovered in 1893 and patented in 1895 by German chemist Hans Goldschmidt. Consequently, the reaction is sometimes called the "Goldschmidt reaction" or "Goldschmidt process". Dr. Goldschmidt was originally interested in producing very pure metals by avoiding the use of carbon in smelting, but he soon realized the value in welding.

The first commercial application was the welding of tram tracks in Essen, in 1899. Evonik, formerly Degussa, a corporate descendant of Goldschmidt's firm, is still today one of the world's largest producers of welding thermite.
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Awe, you got debunked again Anders. What are you gonna do?
 
Craig4 said:
And you have evidence of this?
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Yes, in a video I watched of the collapse of one of the towers, the collapse starts with one particular floor snapping, like 'click'. I think that was the floor where thermite had weakened the steel infrastructure.
 
Anders Lindman said:
Yes, in a video I watched of the collapse of one of the towers, the collapse starts with one particular floor snapping, like 'click'. I think that was the floor where thermite had weakened the steel infrastructure.
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So that would be no, you don't have evidence that what you saw was the result of thermite. Might it not have been the result of a jet plane crashing into the building at a high rate of speed and the ignition of a cloud of droplets from the unspent fuel in the airplane?
 
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Craig4 said:
So that would be no, you don't have evidence that what you saw was the result of thermite. Might it not have been the result of a jet plane crashing into the building at a high rate of speed and the ignition of a cloud of droplets from the unspent fuel in the airplane?
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But the white smoke looks suspicious to me. That's hardly jet fuel or ordinary office fire.
 
Anders Lindman said:
But the white smoke looks suspicious to me. That's hardly jet fuel or ordinary office fire.
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What color of smoke comes from thermite? Is thermite the only way you get that color of smoke?

How many office fires have you observed? What color is the smoke?
 
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Craig4 said:
What color of smoke comes from thermite? Is thermite the only way you get that color of smoke?

How many office fires have you observed? What color is the smoke?
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I think according to the article, thermite produces white smoke, but I haven't read the article fully. It couldn't have been lots of UPS batteries that created such white smoke I think, because batteries, with lots of plastic around them, would produce very black smoke, wouldn't they?
 
Anders Lindman said:
I think according to the article, thermite produces white smoke, but I haven't read the article fully. It couldn't have been lots of UPS batteries that created such white smoke I think, because batteries, with lots of plastic around them, would produce very black smoke, wouldn't they?
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Generally anything with lots of petroleum produces a darker smoke. Lighter smoke comes from organic things like grass, paper or wood. So in an office, there wouldn't be lots of paper would there?
 
Craig4 said:
Generally anything with lots of petroleum produces a darker smoke. Lighter smoke comes from organic things like grass, paper or wood. So in an office, there wouldn't be lots of paper would there?
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You mean lots of paper burning with lots of oxygen? Sounds a bit far-fetched to me. Look at the black smoke at the top of the right tower and compare to the white smoke produced by the thermite (;)) on floor 81 (;)) of the left tower: http://www.rense.com/1.imagesH/therm3.jpg
 
Anders Lindman said:
You mean lots of paper burning with lots of oxygen? Sounds a bit far-fetched to me. Look at the black smoke at the top of the right tower and compare to the white smoke produced by the thermite (;)) on floor 81 (;)) of the left tower: http://www.rense.com/1.imagesH/therm3.jpg
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You do understand that there are lots of things in an office that burn right?
 
Craig4 said:
You do understand that there are lots of things in an office that burn right?
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Yeah, but why would the smoke from the left tower in the picture suddenly look so different than the ordinary black smoke from the other tower? Looks mightily suspect to me.
 
Anders Lindman said:
Yeah, but why would the smoke from the left tower in the picture suddenly look so different than the ordinary black smoke from the other tower? Looks mightily suspect to me.
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Everything looks suspicious to a paranoid conspiracy theorist who sees conspiracy everywhere. :D

Here's a building on fire with white smoke. Is that also from therm*te? Please tell us..

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More evidence of therm*te in fires around the world... per Anders' claims..

'Blaze rages in London's Soho district
July 10, 2009
A massive fire engulfed the four-story offices of a major film company in central London on Friday, sending clouds of white smoke over the city skyline, the London fire department said'

Wow! They must've used tons and tons of therm*te!!
 
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Anders Lindman said:
That the fireball explosions should have started directly at impact, with lots of jet fuel splashed across the facade of the towers. For example the floors would have constituted an enormous horizontal resistance, and the wings hit the facades at an angle, intersecting several floors.
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Do you know where the fuel tanks are on 757/767? I will give you a hint. Not in the nose.
 
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