Muslim researcher explains how 9/11 was made

[Pardalis]

I was just amused by the idea that the only way someone could be so dense as the primary poster was to be actively trying to make his so proudly represented group of people look stupid.

Why are you so intent in thinking Mehmet is not a Muslim?

I've seen him post in a french board and nothing makes me think he is not what he says he is.

You think no Muslim can be that bigoted? If you see a Muslim bigot, it necessarily must be a Christian in disguise?

 

[WildCat]

Several years ago I got the list of identified people from teh Pentagon.

Sure you did, I bet it was delivered by a leprechaun riding on a unicorn.

 

[mehmetin]

Post #216

Did you post that link? It will only take few seconds.

Sorry, I missed it.

This statements exist on several web sites, but the best one is the family's web site :
http://www.tomburnettfoundation.org/tomburnett_transcript.html

They clearly notice that the calls were made by cell phone at 6:27, 6:34, 6:45, 6:54 (pacific time). According to the flight route of UA93, the plane was always at about 10000m altitude. So these calls are technically impossible. So these calls were computer made using voice changing software.

 

[TheRedWorm]

Because you are a biased people who believes non founded personnel attacks.

Stick to the facts and understand yourself how the events were made.

Hey, I was just trying to give you the benefit of the doubt that you are merely a troll. We get lots of them here, you know.

 

[mehmetin]

It's really clear you know absolutely nothing about aircraft. Did you know some areas of the aircraft are pressurized and some are not?. (I was going to add more but, for you "baby steps")

Do you know that even in pressurised area air gets out also! You learnt a new thing.

 

[DGM]

Sorry, I missed it.

This statements exist on several web sites, but the best one is the family's web site :
http://www.tomburnettfoundation.org/tomburnett_transcript.html

They clearly notice that the calls were made by cell phone at 6:27, 6:34, 6:45, 6:54 (pacific time). According to the flight route of UA93, the plane was always at about 10000m altitude. So these calls are technically impossible. So these calls were computer made using voice changing software.

We all notice that you choose to focus on the "cell phone" issue. We know you do this because it's the easy way to your belief. Your problem (that you ignore) is most of the calls were made by "air-phone". Another fact you will ignore.

 

[mehmetin]

There you go again, you can't accept that Muslims can do bad things. You are in denial pal.



So who did the London and the Madrid attacks?

Only Mossad can do such attacks. But the final decision should be given by Justice. Contrary to what you believe, the mastermind of Madrid bombings is not identified; justice is not made.

 

[DGM]

Do you know that even in pressurised area air gets out also! You learnt a new thing.

What exactly did I "learn"? Did you show me how "they" routed all the cabling? Another "problem" you will ignore.

 

[Pardalis]

Only Mossad can do such attacks.

And what makes you so sure of that?

 

[DGM]

mehmetin:

You wanted serious questions. I got one.

I know you have heard of Dr. Judy Wood. What evidence do you have that is better than her's? (remember, your speculation is no better then her's).

 

[9/11 Chewy Defense]

What do radical Muslims do? They observe strict rules, they forbid their wife get out, ... Are those actions terror? Not at all.

They defend their country when they are invaded by other armies, like Afghanistan, Irak, Palestine, Tchetchnia. Yes. But are those terror or war actions? What ever is this, these are limited to the invaded countries.

9/11 is not made by Muslims, extremists or not, Muslims are NOT involved. That's all. 3/11 Madrid and 7/7 London strieks are also not made by Muslims. Justice must be made for the victims, for all victims, and for the humanity to stop such terror actions.

I'm talking about the killing of innocent (non-combatant) men, women & children.

They're not limited if they have the wealth & resources to carry out a planned attack like 9/11. The Japanese planned to attack Pearl Harbor, that that into account you Tusken Raider.

Well someone was involved in the Middle East, surely wasn't Americans or the British.

 

[Pardalis]

Mehmet seems to accept that Muslims are fully capable of committing bomb attacks in the streets of Baghdad and Khabul, but somehow they can't possibly do the same thing in Madrid or London, only the Mossad can do that...

 

[Dog Town]

Sorry, I missed it.

This statements exist on several web sites, but the best one is the family's web site :
http://www.tomburnettfoundation.org/tomburnett_transcript.html

They clearly notice that the calls were made by cell phone at 6:27, 6:34, 6:45, 6:54 (pacific time). According to the flight route of UA93, the plane was always at about 10000m altitude. So these calls are technically impossible. So these calls were computer made using voice changing software.

That's the "evidence" for a cell call?


WoW...that's genius!

 

[DGM]

Mehmet seems to accept that Muslims are fully capable of committing bomb attacks in the streets of Baghdad and Khabul, but somehow they can't possibly do the same thing in Madrid or London, only the Mossad can do that...

It's interesting to note how he can apply critical thinking to only ideas that conflict with his.

 

[Dog Town]

So these calls are technically impossible. So these calls were computer made using voice changing software.

"technically"?

 

[DGM]

"technically"?

Translation = Goes against his belief.

 

[Zep]

This is the technical reason[that using mobiles on planes is forbidden]. But that does not mean such phones work at altitudes like 10000m. If they don’t wok, it’s another more reason to forbid their use on the planes.

They DO work at 10,000m altitude. Did you not read the reference I gave you? Looks like you didn't. And your last sentence is complete nonsense - if stuff doesn't work, it doesn't need to be forbidden!

The message was a welcome message that you got when you enter into a country. That means the phone did not entered any of the 5 crossed countries, so there was no connection to any ground antenna in those countries.

Absolute rubbish. You often get those messages usually when you reach the phone cell nearest the airport, which is usually located in the airport building itself. It is also where most people turn their phones back on. If the messages are sent to an operating phone anywhere that is switched to "flight mode", you won't receive the messages until you switch flight mode off. That will be when you get to the ground again. Lastly, if the phone is on and not in flight mode, the speed of travel between cells tends to interfere with message sending (this is in the reference I gave you above , if you had read it). So again, until the aircraft slows down, i.e. is at the airport, the message will be delayed. Most regular international air travellers know this. Honestly, you haven't done any research at all, have you.

When preparing such an action, they should prepare answers to all questions. So they had to prepare the fakery of the phone calls, the only evidence they can give to make people believe their lies. 911 is an extremely well prepared actions, made at military precision.

Completely and utterly ridiculous. You are now clinging desperately to a complete fantasy. Now that your whole idea has been so debunked, I suspect you are getting desperate to find excuses to support it.

Sorry, your phone calls are not evidence. Ask to USA administration to find other evidence, stronger ones than cellular phone calls made from the planes.

MY phone calls? They were not mine. They were actual real phone calls made from desperate people in a dangerous situation. You dismissing them as fakes is the height of disrespect for their courage. But I guess you supporting your fantasy means more to you than anything.

 

[Justin39640]

Beachnut, probably you got a point with that. I should search better position for the control system. May be you can help? You'll become a good investigator!

The question is: "where do the cables accessible from? I let you tell us.

Don't tell us "nowhere" because the cables should be accessible for maintenance and checking purposes.

Typically, you don't engineer evidence yourself...

 

[alienentity]

According to the flight route of UA93, the plane was always at about 10000m altitude. .

No.

http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2367739610098837763LtPhuo

 

[lordofwaffles]

Pardalis, I have spent some time in the Middle East. Muslims are just as stupid, bigoted, and ignorant, if not more so than the rest of us in some cases (I would argue the lack of a good secular education system is whats holding many people back though, so it is not that they are "inferior" as much as they are attempting to make the world fit a religious-arab nationalist-anti-semitic world view that they have been spoon fed since birth). I have several perfectly rational Muslim friends from growing up however (mostly folks from Indonesia) and it pains me to see someone drag the faiths of my friends along for a ride into stupidity.

Back to the Tomahawk. No. Just no. From my limited exposure to military hardware or computing, generally the electronics packages are little "black boxes" or a purpose built component for that particular platform. Just as an example, you cannot drop the optics/range finder package for a Bradly fighting vehicle, into an Abrams tank, despite the fact they are doing the same basic function. These parts were not designed for plug and play, or easy compatibility.

The Tomahawk was designed to fly nap of the earth, as fast as its little engine could go, to a series of waypoints before going either terminal (with either a conventional, or nuclear payload), or dumping out a series of submunitions. It was not designed to fly evasively. It was built around a simple, fast, brutal flight plan with no deviation. Which is really all a missile needs actually.

The Tomahawk does not even have the programming to understand half the flight surfaces on a Boeing 767, let alone use them. Its a poor choice for a guidance package, and I can only imagine how many weeks, if it were possible at all, it would take to get a Tomahawk guidance package to even sort of fly a plane, and even then it would require hundreds of people working on the plane-software-hardware integration.

All of whom might raise eyebrows at just why they are building a commercial jetliner for the expressed purpose of flying it into a building.

If you were going to build a guidance package for a jetliner, the easiest, and least complicated way would be to build a custom job, as it allow you to build something that fit the plane, rather than mangling a Tomahawk's guidance package, and futzing with the plane to make them both work together. What you are proposing is a stupid complicated solution to a problem that would be better approached in a different way.