Muslim researcher explains how 9/11 was made

[Sam.I.Am]

It's not difficult to modify the system to make ON eart/launched sense be switchable by any satellite communication system. A specially designed system will not be stopped by such an easy signal.

Wait. What? First of all what makes you think that you're qualified to state that "It's not difficult to modify the system" when you clearly don't know what the components of the system are capable of in the first place? Do you even realize what it takes to get one of them spun up in the first place? Where is all of that fire control gear going to be hidden on the plane? The leveling gear alone weighs over 1.000 lbs all by itself. No leveling computer = no missile guidance.

You have no clue about what you're talking about as to what it takes to make one work much less how they work. Go away. Just... go away.

 

[Pardalis]

The Jewishness is not evidence of wrong doing. But in case of Dr. Bazant, Tim Donald Timemrman and Pete Zalewski, their Jewishness is the only explanation why they may lied and/or participated to the events. Their jewishness is not a natural behavior, it's the need to help Israeli perpetrators who asked them help.

And this does not apply to you?

The fact that you are a Muslim doesn't have anything to do with your denial of the events and the religion of the terrorists?

 

[alienentity]

Whatever it is, all these phone calls could be produced by computer. That's 100% sure. So these calls are not reliable evidence.

Excuse me, you're ignoring the mountain of evidence that's staring you in the face - there are records of the many airphone calls.
That is reliable evidence, far more reliable than your claims of magic voice-morphing*

Phone calls were in fact made from the airplane using airphones. It doesn't matter if you deny this fact, it's still a fact. It just makes you out as a person who cannot deal with facts, and is not really interested in facts.

You cannot prove that the calls weren't made, so your claim is false.


*Magic Voice Morphing claims (originated by David Ray Griffin and others)
You're also ignoring the technical improbability of using voice-morphing software, even if it could theoretically work: That is because, for each passenger on each plane, the plane booking would have to be known in advance, and voice samples of each potential person would need to be taken - you cannot do voice morphing without a series of samples, and it's not trivial.

Further, some people, randomly, used airphones (like flight attendants and various passengers), while others attempted to use cellphones. It makes no sense whatsoever if some people are already calling out on airphones for you to attempt to fake the cellphone calls.
No sense at all.

Clearly there was a hijacking, as evidenced by the CVR recovered, which you cannot deny. So since there was a hijacking, there is no reason to try to use voice-morphing, and no reasonable possibility for it to succeed even if you tried.

You're not going to fool ALL of the people who were telephoned. That's just a silly idea, and it is a disgrace to the memories of those people that someone such as yourself is perpetuating these kinds of malicious ideas.

You have no evidence that the calls were faked. In fact the real evidence is that many calls were made. You have failed. Your arguments are a disgrace to common human decency and honesty.

 

[beachnut]

What is in the nose?

 

[Justin39640]

[qimg]http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll116/tjkb/1aircraftradar.jpg[/qimg]
What is in the nose?

Looks like a Pac-Man Power Pellet to me.

 

[Zep]

The groudn antennas are directed to be horizontgal. That's for energy consumption reduction and increasing the sensibility of the ground phones.

Rubbish. Why would there be such strict regulations AGAINST their use in aircraft if they DIDN'T work?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_phones_on_aircraft

I also tested by accident; a cellular phone remained open while crossed several countries. It received the frist text message on landing. It received no one message while crossing many countries.

All that proves, the cellular phones could not work.

It does no such thing. You received the message on landing because more than likely THAT'S WHEN THE SENDER SENT IT. I'm betting it was from someone who was waiting for your plane to arrive, so they would be well aware of when it was going to be near or on the ground at your destination. And since they were well aware of the global rules about on-board phone use, they were sensible and did not send you the message until after the time you arrived and were probably off the aircraft.

Have you actually thought through AT ALL what you say?

Watever it is, these calls could be generated by computer.

...but the probability of them succeeding to fool EVERY caller EVERY time using the technology you propose was effectively zero.

Mehmet, this evidence is now debunked. Every poster here has systematically debunked it. It's been shredded and burned, a number of times over. Accept that. Move on. Bring your next evidence, please.

 

[WildCat]

With todays computers & voice morhping, yes.

No.

 

[lordofwaffles]

George, call your mom

I have not been on this board in a while, so please excuse the out of the blue nature of my comment.

However "Mehmetin" just stop. Really. I am almost positive I know who you really are, and this just is not funny.

Islam is not the evil you think it is. Or well, it is only as evil as every other religion out there. Your making up all this nonsense to make muslims look stupid just is kind of sad. I mean, it almost boggles the mind to think that you seriously expect us to believe an actual person would be so stupid, so dense, and wrapped this crap?

George, really. This was kind of funny the first time we did it with scientologists on that forum for shrinks back in 2006. It is time to hang up the hat, and stop making trying to make muslims look stupid.

 

[mehmetin]

Anybody can make stuff up, mehmetin. The fact is you have NO evidence that ANYTHING you say was done on 9/11. That means you have a very very low standard of proof concerning things you believe in. That means you have confirmation bias. That means your theory is summarily rejected until you present some REAL evidence it happened.

It really is as simple as that. It's easy to claim our evidence is faked; we at least HAVE some. At lot, actually. We cannot comment on yours because you DON'T HAVE ANY.

The only thing you have proof of is that you'd make a good fiction writer.

The lowes standard of proof is in the USA government official side that you are supporting. They just gave fake evidences, lies and they avoided the justice to investigate.

They are unable to explain teh reason of the succession of the hijacks, they are unable to explain why the damagespan on the Pentagon s smaller than the damage a 757 shoud have done. They are unable to explain the reasons of the collapse of the towers.

You are welcome for commenting these subjects. I know, you are unable.

 

[mehmetin]

"Muslim researcher", why mention your religion? Why is that important?

Does science produce different results for Muslims?

The subject of 9/11 strikes is discussed and decided between the "official story" and "fake truthers". And the blame is on Muslims who have no right of speech up to now, because they are silent. Now, I decided to speak out. So, I am almost the only Muslim who speaks out, and the only people who dares to defend his theory that explains "how the events were made". For that reason, it's important to precise my religion. That's all.

But on basis of that, as Muslim I do not have the right to tell wrong or to claim any wrong theory.

 

[9/11 Chewy Defense]

I do never test them, I do not need to test them.

So you never tested the airphones on a plane before? But you have tried a cell phone?!

Ok, since you never tried the airphones, why in the hell are you making a scene about "faked" phone calls from planes if you never tested the airphones yourself?

If you don't test the airphones, then your whole "faked" phone calls isn't possible.

 

[Pardalis]

And the blame is on Muslims who have no right of speech up to now

There is no blame on Muslims, just those 19 ones. Nobody blames Muslims as a whole, stop it.

If an atheist commits a horrible crime somewhere, I won't feel at all concerned or blamed, so why do you feel concerned about those terrorists?

Now, I decided to speak out.

Why do you feel compelled to speak out? Why do you feel you have to deny and defend the actions of those people?

You are not them, and they are not you. They just happen to be Muslim.

But on basis of that, as Muslim I do not have the right to tell wrong or to claim any wrong theory.

People lie all the time, regardless of their religion.

Remember that guy in Iraq who kept saying everything was doing fine while his government was being toppled? He was obviously lying through his teeth.

 

[DGM]

There is no blame on Muslims, just those 19 ones. Nobody blames Muslims as a whole, stop it.


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I'm with you on this. No one blames the Muslims for terrorism (unless their backward-ass haters). Besides that, most of the volume of evidence in the "official story" comes from the private sector (a fact mehmetin will most likely ignore).

 

[mehmetin]

Wait. What? First of all what makes you think that you're qualified to state that "It's not difficult to modify the system" when you clearly don't know what the components of the system are capable of in the first place? Do you even realize what it takes to get one of them spun up in the first place? Where is all of that fire control gear going to be hidden on the plane? The leveling gear alone weighs over 1.000 lbs all by itself. No leveling computer = no missile guidance.

You have no clue about what you're talking about as to what it takes to make one work much less how they work. Go away. Just... go away.

The control computer of tomahawk missile could be reduced to the size of 10x10x10cm. Is that so difficult to install inside an aircraft? Definitely not.

Today's leveling gears (gyroscope?) are electronic made are too much lighter than old mechanical ones.

There is no unsolvable technical problem to install tomahawk control system into a aircraft and the system could be made extremely reliable.

 

[9/11 Chewy Defense]

The control computer of tomahawk missile could be reduced to the size of 10x10x10cm. Is that so difficult to install inside an aircraft? Definitely not.

Today's leveling gears (gyroscope?) are electronic made are too much lighter than old mechanical ones.

There is no unsolvable technical problem to install tomahawk control system into a aircraft and the system could be made extremely reliable.

But you have no photos of missile parts. So how can we believe you without any evidence of a missile being used?

 

[Pardalis]

But you have no photos of missile parts. So how can we believe you without any evidence of a missile being used?

I guess that's where his faith comes in.

 

[DGM]

The control computer of tomahawk missile could be reduced to the size of 10x10x10cm. Is that so difficult to install inside an aircraft? Definitely not.

Today's leveling gears (gyroscope?) are electronic made are too much lighter than old mechanical ones.

There is no unsolvable technical problem to install tomahawk control system into a aircraft and the system could be made extremely reliable.

But wouldn't it be a much better plan just to have your "evil Jews" (and Bush) dupe a group of fundamentalist into thinking Jihad?

Your plan is so over the top that I think it would need the cooperation of 10's of thousands of people (another fact you will not consider).

 

[mehmetin]

"The Jewishness is not evidence of wrong doing. But in case of Dr. Bazant, Tim Donald Timemrman and Pete Zalewski, their Jewishness is the only explanation why they may lied and/or participated to the events. Their jewishness is not a natural behavior, it's the need to help Israeli perpetrators who asked them help.
"

And this does not apply to you?

The fact that you are a Muslim doesn't have anything to do with your denial of the events and the religion of the terrorists?

If you are able to prove my involvement is terror strikes likes 9/11, you can ask if that is related to my religion. If you find any suspicius behavior related to any terror strike, you can ask if that's related to my religion. Without such situation, your considerations are only racist. If you want to be racist, feel free to be. You are responsible on your actions.

 

[9/11 Chewy Defense]

I guess that's where his faith comes in.

His faith is about to be tested.

 

[mehmetin]

Excuse me, you're ignoring the mountain of evidence that's staring you in the face - there are records of the many airphone calls.
That is reliable evidence, far more reliable than your claims of magic voice-morphing*

Phone calls were in fact made from the airplane using airphones. It doesn't matter if you deny this fact, it's still a fact. It just makes you out as a person who cannot deal with facts, and is not really interested in facts.

You cannot prove that the calls weren't made, so your claim is false.


*Magic Voice Morphing claims (originated by David Ray Griffin and others)
You're also ignoring the technical improbability of using voice-morphing software, even if it could theoretically work: That is because, for each passenger on each plane, the plane booking would have to be known in advance, and voice samples of each potential person would need to be taken - you cannot do voice morphing without a series of samples, and it's not trivial.

Further, some people, randomly, used airphones (like flight attendants and various passengers), while others attempted to use cellphones. It makes no sense whatsoever if some people are already calling out on airphones for you to attempt to fake the cellphone calls.
No sense at all.

Clearly there was a hijacking, as evidenced by the CVR recovered, which you cannot deny. So since there was a hijacking, there is no reason to try to use voice-morphing, and no reasonable possibility for it to succeed even if you tried.

You're not going to fool ALL of the people who were telephoned. That's just a silly idea, and it is a disgrace to the memories of those people that someone such as yourself is perpetuating these kinds of malicious ideas.

You have no evidence that the calls were faked. In fact the real evidence is that many calls were made. You have failed. Your arguments are a disgrace to common human decency and honesty.

I proved you that all these phone calls could be produced by computer software that is commercially sold in public area since 2005. Why do you so focusing these phone calls? You need to find other evidence. If you find other stronger evidence, you are wel come. But phone calls are NOT evidence.

Ok, they needed to get several records of different people. As I told you in an earlier post, "Israeli Spy Ring" members worked in telecommunication; that made them able to wire tap several passengers before take off; so they get records and more information about the life of the passengers.

You should find other evidence than phone calls.