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Merged Does Elie Wiesel have a tatoo, or not?

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Dogzilla, all I can say, more in sorrow than in anger, how disappointed I am that on International Holocaust Day of all days, JREFers should have chosen to mock and deride a genuine survivor of Auschwitz.

Again, Mr Gruener, I salute you.
 
But when did the book come out?

You are in for a treat Cpt. This International Holocaust Day you have the opportunity to read a memoir of a genuine survivor of Auschwitz.

I have helpfully uploaded Mr Gruener's courageous work on to this post where I discuss the existence of 3 mystery Wiesels, children of Golda and Mendel Wiesel of Sighets.

http://littlegreyrabbit.wordpress.c...lution-to-the-mystery-of-elie-wiesels-tattoo/

When you have finished reading - and if you are not overcome with rage - you can tell us all when it was published.
 
For people like lionking, TSR, and uke2se, whether or not what Elie Wiesel says is true doesn't matter. What matters is whether or not what Elie Wiesel says about the holocaust sounds bad.
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And you can, of course quote a post in which I said anything even remotely similar to this?

No?



People like DZ aren't adverse to lying about what someone actually said. What's important to them isn't the facts, it's trying to justify their hate.



Of course, since they also lie about historical facts, this isn't surprizing.
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You are in for a treat Cpt. This International Holocaust Day you have the opportunity to read a memoir of a genuine survivor of Auschwitz.

I have helpfully uploaded Mr Gruener's courageous work on to this post where I discuss the existence of 3 mystery Wiesels, children of Golda and Mendel Wiesel of Sighets.

http://littlegreyrabbit.wordpress.c...lution-to-the-mystery-of-elie-wiesels-tattoo/

When you have finished reading - and if you are not overcome with rage - you can tell us all when it was published.

So, you don't know?
 
If he was that committed to the lie, wouldn't he have just gotten a tattoo?

Or is Nazi ink extinct?
 
If he was that committed to the lie, wouldn't he have just gotten a tattoo?

Or is Nazi ink extinct?
Perhaps he is not that committed to it but just sort of slipped into it when he was young and doesn't know a way out? I am sure he has some kind of story to tell about WW2 - it just doesn't appear to include Auschwitz.

Tell you what. If you guys let John Demjanjuk go home within a month and live out his last months or years with his family in the US then I will take down both posts I have up.
 
Perhaps he is not that committed to it but just sort of slipped into it when he was young and doesn't know a way out? I am sure he has some kind of story to tell about WW2 - it just doesn't appear to include Auschwitz.

Ah yes, and back we go the idiot/genius theory upon which all conspiratard fantasies rest.

Smart enough to fabricate a massive web of lies but too stupid to get a small tattoo.

Of course, if he is shown to have a tattoo, you will just drum up some white supremacist who claims he gave Weisel the tattoo in 1955. That's the beauty of nutty conspiracies: when they're totally factless, they can always be altered to maintain the fundamental belief.
 
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I gave myself a homemade Tattoo (ink and a needle) when I was 11 years-old. That was 29 years ago. It's almost completly faded.

BTW mother was not pleased. That was the first time I ever heard her drop the F-bomb.
 
Perhaps he is not that committed to it but just sort of slipped into it when he was young and doesn't know a way out?


You people are giving him a way out: exposure of his allegedly obvious lie(s). That he hasn't admitted to what you accuse him of is an indication of his commitment to those alleged lies.

So, again... why doesn't he just get the tattoo if he doesn't already have one?
 
So... is the entirety of the holocaust's truth or falsity is based on whether Elie Wiesel has a tattoo?
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I have a friend with one of those tattoos.
I wouldn't think of intruding in her life to get an image of it, nor ask her to recount what happened to her then.
 
only 500.00? A paparazzi gets more than that for a picture of a pimple on paris hilton.
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The photos those guys get are amazing!
How can anyone so much in the public eye -not- put on panties when going out? :eye-poppi
 
I gave myself a homemade Tattoo (ink and a needle) when I was 11 years-old. That was 29 years ago. It's almost completly faded.

BTW mother was not pleased. That was the first time I ever heard her drop the F-bomb.

thats hardcore.:D
 
I would like to nominate Dogzilla.




I don't get it. Is this the thread where we nominate stundies we find around the whackosphere, or is it where we come to write the actual stundies? Such as assuming that every single person who died in the camps was Jewish or that there was just the one way of dying in one? Or that no one survived one to tell the tale? Or that every US serviceman who helped empty out the camps afterwards decided to lie about what they saw?

And manage to be disgusting about the prospect of someone's loved one's deaths.

It may simply be that this is a stundie producing thread. Getting a stundie may be the only recognition that a holocaust liar can hope for. It's not as if there are venues other than those populated by their freakish species where they can get recognition. The derision of JREF may be the only hope of attention some of them can get.
 
You people are giving him a way out: exposure of his allegedly obvious lie(s). That he hasn't admitted to what you accuse him of is an indication of his commitment to those alleged lies.

So, again... why doesn't he just get the tattoo if he doesn't already have one?


In general, Jewish law doesn't allow tattoos, although exceptions can be made. If Elie Wiesel is really an observant Orthodox Jew and he was not tattooed against his will in Auschwitz, he wouldn't be able to intentionally get a tattoo unless he had a good reason. What that good reason would be is something between Elie and his rabbi.

I'm no expert on Jewish law but I don't think "because I want to deceive fellow Jews into believing I was in Auschwitz when I wasn't" would pass as a good reason.
 
It may simply be that this is a stundie producing thread. Getting a stundie may be the only recognition that a holocaust liar can hope for. It's not as if there are venues other than those populated by their freakish species where they can get recognition. The derision of JREF may be the only hope of attention some of them can get.


The stundie would actually go to Loss Leader who believes that Elie Wiesel is telling the truth when he writes that 1) a pit filled with dead bodies is going to be able to maintain a fire hot enough to incinerate the corpses without an external heat or fuel source, 2) babies were collected by the lorry load and dumped into a separate burning pit, and 3) that adult Jews would slowly walk single file to the edge of a giant flaming pit and then fall in without any protest but would like to find out that what Elie Wiesel wrote is false because then his relatives who disappeared seventy years ago in Europe will reestablish contact.
 
Did your father actually have a penis?

No one has ever seen it. Not even your mother. So it is possible that you produced asexually or maybe simply created in a lab.

Can you prove this is not true?

Possibly, he's just a boy from Brazil. But, and I admit I have no interest at all
in it, have you ever seen that father's son with a penis? I haven't.:jaw-dropp
 
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And you can, of course quote a post in which I said anything even remotely similar to this?

No?



People like DZ aren't adverse to lying about what someone actually said. What's important to them isn't the facts, it's trying to justify their hate.



Of course, since they also lie about historical facts, this isn't surprizing.
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And you can, of course quote a post in which I said anything about facts not being important or that I'm just trying to justify my hate?

No?

I thought not.

PS: I didn't say you. I said people like you. You need to understand you're not the center of the universe.
 
The stundie would actually go to Loss Leader who believes that Elie Wiesel is telling the truth when he writes that 1) a pit filled with dead bodies is going to be able to maintain a fire hot enough to incinerate the corpses without an external heat or fuel source, 2) babies were collected by the lorry load and dumped into a separate burning pit, and 3) that adult Jews would slowly walk single file to the edge of a giant flaming pit and then fall in without any protest but would like to find out that what Elie Wiesel wrote is false because then his relatives who disappeared seventy years ago in Europe will reestablish contact.

As you think this is ridiculous, you can of course prove it didn't happen. Present your evidence now, please.
 
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