Wake up West. Wake up Obama. Islamic filth is coming to your town.

[timf1234]

I've only just joined the conversation, and I've said no such thing. I've said that you have no appreciation for the contributions of people who make your life such as it is as you go about living it. As a matter of fact, you seem to despise these people. What occupation do you hold? Are you a "mover and a shaker"? Or are you one of "the working class"? Come on, you must be a scientist or something, or else your entire argument is just a big pile of steaming self-hate.

I do not have to be a scientist, mover or shaker, or a rich guy for my argument to be valid. I do not have to have sight to understand that people can see.

So, don't be stupid.

It is a different story that I could very well be in the camp of top 2% or 5% of the population.

I give the working class some credit where it is due.
But I have to say that top 1% or 2% or 5% contributed to the world welfare far more than all the remaining population combined.
Do you agree or disagree with that statement?

 

[ria_rokz]

Of course, my 1% is arbitrary but the concept stands in principle.

Here is the proof.
If you moron, lazy bomb, 6 pack joe, with bad value system, rotten apple, spoiled by government handout, if you (brainless liberals) will not accept my (our) $4.00/hr. wages to manufacture my (our) inventions then I will take my (our) factory to China and India, screw you, idiot.

Then you will extend unemployment benefit for another year to your lazy buddies until you bankrupt America and then will have to listen to China and India. It is high time that you progressive change your attitude before you destroy America and live as world's 3rd class citizen.

...that's not proof. It's just bigoted rambling. Fail.

 

[timf1234]

...that's not proof. It's just bigoted rambling. Fail.

Read my argument again before you declare it "Fail".
You might turn out to be a failure in your life too.

My argument shows, wages should be determine by supply and demand or else, I am taking my call center to India.
Get it.

And remember, it is not only the wages, it is also the healthcare cost you are imposing upon us and many other burden.

Think again.

My point is, American working class is getting way too much in return to what their work is priced at fair market value.
Working class is demanding too much.

Edited by jhunter1163: 

Edited for civility.

We are moving our factory to China. Period.'
Get it now!

 

[ria_rokz]

I do not have to be a scientist, mover or shaker, or a rich guy for my argument to be valid. I do not have to have sight to understand that people can see.

So, don't be stupid.

It is a different story that I could very well be in the camp of top 2% or 5% of the population.

I give the working class some credit where it is due.
But I have to say that top 1% or 2% or 5% contributed to the world welfare far more than all the remaining population combined.
Do you agree or disagree with that statement?

Wow, I like how you completely changed your post.

No, I completely disagree with your statement. How on Earth do you figure you are in the "top 5%"? Seriously? Are you too ashamed to list your occupation here? You must be, or you would be parading it all over the place proving how much more valuable you are than the rest of us and the rest of the "parasites".

And yes, according to your argument, you said

We bread [sic] doer, movers, shakers, creative, industrialists.

So if you don't do any of the four later ones, are you just a breeder?

 

[Mycroft]

Of course, my 1% is arbitrary but the concept stands in principle.

Here is the proof.
If you moron, lazy bomb, 6 pack joe, with bad value system, rotten apple, spoiled by government handout, if you (brainless liberals) will not accept my (our) $4.00/hr. wages to manufacture my (our) inventions then I will take my (our) factory to China and India, screw you, idiot.

Then you will extend unemployment benefit for another year to your lazy buddies until you bankrupt America and then will have to listen to China and India. It is high time that you progressive change your attitude before you destroy America and live as world's 3rd class citizen.

This is parody, right?

 

[timf1234]

Wow, I like how you completely changed your post.

No, I completely disagree with your statement. How on Earth do you figure you are in the "top 5%"? Seriously? Are you too ashamed to list your occupation here? You must be, or you would be parading it all over the place proving how much more valuable you are than the rest of us and the rest of the "parasites".

And yes, according to your argument, you said



So if you don't do any of the four later ones, are you just a breeder?

I am parading that my argument for the capitalism is superior to your socialism.
You are the one who first brought up and asked me for my status. I did not ask yours.
I was discussing ideas.

Do you expect me to send you my networth statement certified by CPA?

My whole point is India and China have and are moving toward more capitalism and we now started to move toward more socialism. That is the problem.

 

[ria_rokz]

Read my argument again before you declare it "Fail".
You might turn out to be a failure in your life too.

My argument shows, wages should be determine by supply and demand or else, I am taking my call center to India.
Get it.

And remember, it is not only the wages, it is also the healthcare cost you are imposing upon us and many other burden.

Think again.

No. Your argument shows that you are avoiding the original question and prefer insults and bigotry to reasoned discourse. You were supposed to prove that the other 99% of the people in the world have had nothing to do with the world as it is today. You have not only backed off on your number, you've managed to go into some rant about supply and demand. You need to show me that even those "2 or 5%" could have done what they have with out the other 95-98%. Show me that your happy little elite club made the discoveries and contributions they did without the help of anyone in the working class.

I am imposing no such healthcare cost on you, so stop with the ridiculous unnecessary statements.

 

[ria_rokz]

I am parading that my argument for the capitalism is superior to your socialism.
You are the one who first brought up and asked me for my status. I did not ask yours.
I was discussing ideas.

I don't need to give you mine, because I am not the one advocating for "capitalism" or your idea of a perfect society. You might notice I haven't said a thing about socialism, health care, food stamps, or the like. I've only questioned how you think the world can function with these super duper 1-2-5% or whatever number you've made up now. I've questioned what makes you think you are so superior to them and asked you to show me how you are superior to them.

You also avoided the robot thing.

 

[timf1234]

No. Your argument shows that you are avoiding the original question and prefer insults and bigotry to reasoned discourse. You were supposed to prove that the other 99% of the people in the world have had nothing to do with the world as it is today. You have not only backed off on your number, you've managed to go into some rant about supply and demand. You need to show me that even those "2 or 5%" could have done what they have with out the other 95-98%. Show me that your happy little elite club made the discoveries and contributions they did without the help of anyone in the working class.

I am imposing no such healthcare cost on you, so stop with the ridiculous unnecessary statements.

I clearly have said, and will say it now again,
your working class already getting too much for the contribution that they have made. Proof, we are taking our factory elsewhere. It is that simple.
Working class is getting away by doing less and getting more in return.
This was possible by forceful government because you needed their vote.

I did not avoid the robot thing.
I showed, that robot has replace millions of your working class and will do so even more.
But you can't replace we, creative, industrialist, businessmen and women, the elitist except by physical violance.
Therefore, I showed, value of your working class should be even lower than what it is now.

 

[ria_rokz]

I am parading that my argument for the capitalism is superior to your socialism.
You are the one who first brought up and asked me for my status. I did not ask yours.
I was discussing ideas.

Do you expect me to send you my networth statement certified by CPA?

My whole point is India and China have and are moving toward more capitalism and we now started to move toward more socialism. That is the problem.

I don't care what you're worth.

 

[ria_rokz]

I clearly have said, and will say it now again,
your working class already getting too much for the contribution that they have made. Proof, we are taking our factory elsewhere. It is that simple.
Working class is getting away by doing less and getting more in return.
This was possible by forceful government because you needed their vote.

Stop pointing fingers at me, I'm not even a bloody American. I needed no such thing.

Evasion noted. Yes, you did say that clearly, but it wasn't the question.

 

[timf1234]

Stop pointing fingers at me, I'm not even a bloody American. I needed no such thing.

Evasion noted. Yes, you did say that clearly, but it wasn't the question.

It doesn't matter if you are an American or not, it has to do with the idea that you are defending.

I am attacking the idea not you.

Read Ayn Rand

 

[ria_rokz]

I clearly have said, and will say it now again,
your working class already getting too much for the contribution that they have made. Proof, we are taking our factory elsewhere. It is that simple.
Working class is getting away by doing less and getting more in return.
This was possible by forceful government because you needed their vote.

I did not avoid the robot thing.
I showed, that robot has replace millions of your working class and will do so even more.
But you can't replace we, creative, industrialist, businessmen and women, the elitist except by physical violance.
Therefore, I showed, value of your working class should be even lower than what it is now.

Er... maybe take a minute and finish your post before pressing submit. You've edited the last three posts you've sent.

No, there is no therefore. There is only bigotry. You said robots could be created to replace the working class. I said no, prove it. You avoided it at first, and now you avoid it again. Your arguments hold no water. You have not shown that the working class is not an essential part of society.

 

[timf1234]

Er... maybe take a minute and finish your post before pressing submit. You've edited the last three posts you've sent.

No, there is no therefore. There is only bigotry. You said robots could be created to replace the working class. I said no, prove it. You avoided it at first, and now you avoid it again. Your arguments hold no water. You have not shown that the working class is not an essential part of society.

Of course, everything in the universe is necessary. The point I was making is that working class or are living on the back of top few percent.
This mean American working class are getting away with more than what they deserve. More contribution to the welfare of mankind is done by the top few percent than the remaining percentage combined.

That's all.

Read Ayn Rand.

Now I got to go.

 

[ria_rokz]

It doesn't matter if you are an American or not, it has to do with the idea that you are defending.

I am attacking the idea not you.

Read Ayn Rand

Just because I have defended the need for a working class does not mean I am defending socialism or liberalism. I'm just poking holes in your argument.

And you walk a tight rope between attacking the idea and not me. I really don't see the necessity of statements, directed at the group in general, such as:

the liberal's lobotomized brain
parasites
Even your company is bad for the society.
Take your dumb working class in a different planet.
love to do moral masturbation.

And then there are the ones directed at me, such as:

If you moron, lazy bomb, 6 pack joe, with bad value system, rotten apple...
if you (brainless liberals)
You might turn out to be a failure in your life too.

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Moderated content removed.

Oh... oh, wait. You got busted on the last one. You directly called me a moron. Was that really necessary?

Maybe consider double-checking some of your "your" for the "r", because often it looks like it could be intended as a direct insult.

 

[ria_rokz]

This is parody, right?

 

[DC]

China is not OIC.
If you do not know that the percentage of atheists in the West (Europe) and even in the US is much higher than OIC countries then I shouldn't be surprised if you tell me the Earth is flat.

No wonder, you do not know what is Islamic Filth.
You have very little knowledge of the world we live in but you ought to have a definite opinion.

sorry, but the only filth i come across here is bigoted filth like you.

then tell me, how many atheists are there in OIC countries? I'll ask the imam i know, next time i see him. maybe he knows.

 

[leftysergeant]

My contribution to the society is proportional to the wealth I have created for myself.

No it isn't. You want to steal the labor of others and pay them what you feel you can spare. You are a parasite. Please go away. Do not stop to lecture anyone on morality. You are imoral.

This one's for you and all the capitalist swine who think that the sun rises and sets on them:

 

[leftysergeant]

Read Ayn Rand

I have read only one of her works all the way through. "Anthem " was the most boring piece of crap I have ever encountered and "The Fountain Head" was so tedious that I found something more exciting to do, watching paint dry. I ran a cross a few of her essays in the popular press and came to the painfully obvious conclusion that she was bat crap crazy.

Be warned that this sort of guanophrenia is contagious, with the pathenogen imbedded into paper products and electronic display devices.

 

[BNRT]

More contribution to the welfare of mankind is done by the top few percent than the remaining percentage combined.

If it was not for the 'working class' building bombs, guns, aeroplanes and fighting and dying during WWII, chances are big I would live under Nazi rule. I would say that is quite a big contribution to mankind.