Is violent political rhetoric and imagery incitement?

Skeptic Ginger said:
No one has said that every single use of a bullseye or a target image, or the use of words like target and bullseyes are the issue. Those words are frequently used without the accompanying vitriol that suggests violence as the metaphor.
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Absolutely. Those are not *true* bullseyes.
 
Thunder said:
and what about a political event where folks shoot photos of a candidate's opponent with a fully-auto M16?

should that be considered incitement? this actually did occur.
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This would be incitement but do you have evidence that this did happen? OR was advertised as such even if it didn't happen.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
We are saying Palin's and more than a few Tea Party members' rhetoric has passed the point of being harmless. It is dangerous and unnecessary.
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Chaos said:
It´s years´ worth of right-wing rhetoric portraying democrats as everything a lot of Americans own guns for.
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You mean like all the signs and talk during Bush's term calling for his hanging, assassination, and execution?
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
No one has said that every single use of a bullseye or a target image, or the use of words like target and bullseyes are the issue. Those words are frequently used without the accompanying vitriol that suggests violence as the metaphor.
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Like "behind enemy lines"?

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Thunder said:
do you ever read all the posts in a thread, or conveniently skip ones that don't correspond to your goal?
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Can you quote the part where the target was a picture of Gifford? Because that is in fact your claim:

Thunder said:
and what about a political event where folks shoot photos of a candidate's opponent with a fully-auto M16?

should that be considered incitement? this actually did occur.
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WildCat said:
Can you quote the part where the target was a picture of Gifford? Because that is in fact your claim:
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Once again, I shall ask you:

do you ever read all the posts of a thread..including the ones that say:

"actually, that element is not clear".

or did you indeed read that..and are just trolling?
 
Thunder said:
um...

actually...that element is not clear.
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Maybe there was such an event, maybe there wasn't but someone posted that as an idea in a thread and it was assumed to be true. More likely it was a shooting outing with this man.
 
eeyore1954 said:
Maybe there was such an event, maybe there wasn't but someone posted that as an idea in a thread and it was assumed to be true. More likely it was a shooting outing with this man.
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maybe there was such an event?

both articles stated the event occured. but its not clear if the target was a face of Gifford or not.
 
Thunder said:
is it incitement to have a map of the USA with gunsight crosshairs all over the country, with each crosshair being linked to a Congressmen's name?
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And then there was Sharron Angle's call for "second amendment remedies", as a responce to government tyranny and her call for Harry Reid to be "taken out." :eye-poppi

 
Thunder said:
these targets have no names attached to them.

Palin's targets, did. Before she pulled the site, out of fear and guilt.
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So hers had pictures because she was "targeting" specific candidates she thought could be beat.
Could a crazy person take that to mean shoot someone , yes but so could the other graphic.

How do you pretend to know she pulled them out of fear? or guilt?
 
Thunder said:
maybe there was such an event?

both articles stated the event occured. but its not clear if the target was a face of Gifford or not.
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An event as the won you stated happened where people went and shot at targets of Gifford. Did you really misunderstand what I meant?
 
I am thinking to myself in other countries they are laughing at us twenty four hours a day and I’m thinking to myself if we were in other countries, we would all right now, all of us together, all of us together would go down to Washington and we would stone Henry Hyde to death! We would stone him to death! Wait! Shut up! Shut up! No shut up! I’m not finished. We would stone Henry Hyde to death and we would go to their homes and we’d kill their wives and their children. We would kill their families. What is happening in this country? What is happening?
- Actor/Activist Alec Baldwin, in an appearance on Conan O'Brien in 1998

I condemn the violent hate speech commonly used by the liberal left. Calling for the assassination of political opponents and the murder of their families is par for the course in Somalia, Venezuela and Saddam Era Iraq, but not in the worlds oldest modern democracy.
 
Sword_Of_Truth said:
I condemn the violent hate speech commonly used by the liberal left. Calling for the assassination of political opponents and the murder of their families is par for the course in Somalia, Venezuela and Saddam Era Iraq, but not in the worlds oldest modern democracy.
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I support your call for the end of violent and revolutionary rhetoric in American society. Will you also support my call for and end to such statements and imagery, against ALL Americans, regardless of them being Left or Right, Conservative or Liberal, Democrat or Republican?


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