9/11 Truthers on the left vs 9/11 Truthers on the right- which side is more vocal?

[Tinfoil Hater]

Truthers are found on the extreme fringes of both the left and the right- often united by a shared hatred of the Jews- But more often than not, left wing Truthers like to blame 9/11 on the Republicans (Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld).
I haven't seen too many right wing truthers blame Bush, or blame the opposing Democratic party.

Lyndon larouche cultists tend to blame whoever sits in the White House of having been a part of 9/11, so perhaps they think the Democrats and Republicans are one in the same.

Looking on the blogosphere, left wing blogs are often overrun with Truther lunacy- Democratic Underground and Huffington Post seldom have Truther articles, but many people positing on the message boards are card carrying Truther nuts. Radio personality Mike Malloy is a far left Truther , and his message board is truther central.
Crooksandliars.com is one left wing blog that seems to have no use for Truther babble- once a thread is derailed by a Truther, they shut it down.

Ed Schultz and Keith Olbermann are on the left, and are dismissive of Truthers as being 'nuts'. Ditto with Bill Maher

On the right, I haven't seen much Truther activity on FOX or other right wing political sites- They claim Truthers are all far left 'liberals'. Some of the far right militia groups do think 'the government' was behind 9/11- but they don't seem to be as specific as the left wing Truthers on who to blame.

Ther Truther cult is shrinking- but which side is the loudest and most active at this time? Im convinced the far left Truthers are the dominant voice in the Truther cult- i'm not sure if Alex Jones has a right wing equivilant, save for the president of Iran.....Nearlly all of the Truther videos I have seen on Youtube seem to be from people on the extreme left.

What do you all think- as of 2010, do the far left or far right Truthers hold the reigns of power and influence within their cult?
Which side will be the first to implode?

 

[Sam.I.Am]

From about 2003 through early 2007 I'd have said the left, no problem. I don't know if I'd call those people truthers like what we see today though. Their metal disorders stemmed from the total republican control of the government where they'd believe anything bad about the eeeevil neocons no mater how ridiculous. It was more like a hobby than a belief for those people though. They believed because they wanted to believe. That desire to believe went away right after their own political side took power and they would have to gore their own ox if they had continued. It's not a coincidence that the truthers suddenly became significantly less vocal from 2007 until today. It's not like the official narrative changed or that the world of building and fire science had some tremendous breakthroughs or that there was some miracle anti-psychotic drugs being pumped into our water supplies. It was simply people slinging copious quantities of mud at Bush and the neocons and hoping some of it would stick and then stopping when that mud would splatter onto their own guys.

 

[T.A.M.]

I agree, leading up to Obama, there was a lot of Foster Truthers who bought into it only because they wanted to blame BUSH for everything (odd given he was only around for 9 months before, prior to that, it was 8 YEARS of Clinton).

TAM

 

[Lenbrazil]

I agree, leading up to Obama, there was a lot of Foster Truthers who bought into it only because they wanted to blame BUSH for everything (odd given he was only around for 9 months before, prior to that, it was 8 YEARS of Clinton).

TAM

This has been noted before but anti-Government CTs tend to popular with people who support the part out of power. Anti-Clinton and Obama nuttiness is more popular with the right, the notion that the Bushes were responsible for everything from the assassination of JFK to the anthrax attacks is more popular with leftists, the belief that Nixon was set up by the “liberal” CIA appeals to conservatives etc.

Of course there are loons who believe almost every CT that catches their attention. As to 9/11, the right-wingers who believe that Bush and/or Israel were responsible are not comparable with the liberals who think so. The former tend to be extremists far to the right of the GOP who don’t vote, vote 3rd party or at best support the party’s most extreme candidates. Some of the leftist truthers are that fringe but most seem to vote Democrat just as most of the Birthers and Clinton Body Counters vote Republican.

As for the 9 months thing, if they deal with it at all they say, the plot was in the works for years but the election was fixed, so they knew they’d be in charge.

 

[leftysergeant]

It is not so much left or right as it is psychotic or anarchistic.

 

[Sceptic-PK]

In before Scott.In.Taiwan…

There’s no doubt that crazy isn’t concerned with partisanship, but in my (online) experience with those that favour the 911 woo, the overwhelming majority of them are extreme right-wingers. I’ve “met” merely 1 communist and 1 anarchist, whereas everyone else are self-styled gun-toting libertarians and ron paul fans.

 

[uke2se]

Isn't Alex Jones a right wing-nut?

 

[leftysergeant]

Isn't Alex Jones a right wing-nut?

He seems to think the Shrub was a commie.

 

[T.A.M.]

In before Scott.In.Taiwan…

There’s no doubt that crazy isn’t concerned with partisanship, but in my (online) experience with those that favour the 911 woo, the overwhelming majority of them are extreme right-wingers. I’ve “met” merely 1 communist and 1 anarchist, whereas everyone else are self-styled gun-toting libertarians and ron paul fans.

the gun toting is just one issue.

My experience, from the one truther I have met, and the many I have seen on videos, interviewed, etc..., is that, at least for the angry young men, they tend to be liberals on social issues.

Not sure where they are on other issues...

TAM

 

[T.A.M.]

He seems to think the Shrub was a commie.

reminds me of a hilarious episode (well they all were) of "Fawlty towers", where Cleese, in a fit of anger, runs up to a potted plant, and shakes his fist at it.

I cry with laughter every time I see it.

TAM

 

[leftysergeant]

My experience, from the one truther I have met, and the many I have seen on videos, interviewed, etc..., is that, at least for the angry young men, they tend to be liberals on social issues.

Not sure where they are on other issues...

TAM

Ecconomicly, they are all over the place. Anarchosyndicalists and anarcho capitalists.

And the white nationalists hang around with all of them feeding them disinfo and angry pills.

The wnite nationalists don't need them to fight for a specific cause. They just need them to fight visciously when the time comes.

 

[Tinfoil Hater]

The left wing Truthers seem a bit more vocal and profane. I popped by some Mike malloy videos on Youtube and of course Mike is a far left Truther nutcase, as are his followers.

One thing i noticed about Truthers- when challened to back up their claims, they can't, so they respond with anger. When asked to back their claims of an inside job, far left Truthers usually unleash a string of profanity, telling me to go F myself, etc.


One typical response from a Truther who was uanble to prove that 9/11 was an inside job was 'prove that it wasn't an inside job'.


For a time left wing blogs like Huffington Post and Democratic Underground were infested with far left Truthers- but there has been some pushback. A few liberal blogs delete any Truther rants. Some Truthers claim 'the Jews' in the media are responsible for Truthger censorship.

Even Keith Olbermann has dismissed Truthers as being loons.

I concider myself a liberal and have always voted Democratic, but despise conspiracy theories- with 9/11 conspiracies being as idiotic as moon landing hoaxers.

I do think though the most vocal truthers out there are on the far left. Right wing truthers are seldom in the news. They are quickly denounced by other right wingers.

I'll bet that most of the Truther videos on Youtube are made by far left wing zealots, who blame 9/11 on Dick Cheney or on the Jews.

If you go to the extreme fringes of the left and the right, they go full circle and become one in the same, both side rife with crazy people and bigots who are intolerant of anyone with views that differ from their own, hence the mutal distain both sides have for moderates.

 

[Good Lt]

Isn't Alex Jones a right wing-nut?

AJ is just a wingnut. He has equal contempt and paranoia regarding agents of both the Dems and GOP.

Hates Bush/Cheney. Hates Obama.

Hates sanity.

You get the idea...

 

[Thunder]

the right-wingers are more vocal, but the left-wingers have more brains.

 

[Tinfoil Hater]

AJ is just a wingnut. He has equal contempt and paranoia regarding agents of both the Dems and GOP.

Hates Bush/Cheney. Hates Obama.

Hates sanity.

You get the idea...

I have wondered about the political leanings of most American 9/11 Truthers- I have a hunch many are Libertarians. Libertarians can be a mix of left wing and right wing people, and they are apt to be very paranoid about black helicopters, and are convinced fascism is taking over the country.

Some have argued that Libertarians are just 'Republicans that want to smoke pot and get laid'- but I have met a few far left Libertarians.


I wonder if any of the right wing Truthers think Barack obama was behind 9/11? The nutcase Birther crowd will believe anything...

 

[Tinfoil Hater]

the right-wingers are more vocal, but the left-wingers have more brains.

Thats true, right wingers seem to celebrate anti-intellectualism- but once a person professes to be a Truther (be them a liberal or a conservative), I daresay they've checked their brains at the door..

 

[tempesta29]

If you even refer to wings then you've already failed yourself.

 

[Dragon37]

I have a hard time telling political leanings. Both sides seem to blame the government but slightly differ in respect to which part of the government they blame.

 

[Tinfoil Hater]

If you even refer to wings then you've already failed yourself.

How so?

 

[terl]

Im convinced the far left Truthers are the dominant voice in the Truther cult- i'm not sure if Alex Jones has a right wing equivilant, save for the president of Iran.....Nearlly all of the Truther videos I have seen on Youtube seem to be from people on the extreme left.

Alex Jones is definitely right-wing, unless you consider the John Birch Society to be a left-wing or moderate movement.