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Beyond Apollo conspiracies

Kid Eager said:
I looked through your posts searching for your compelling evidence - alas there was nothing other than vague allusions that I'm sure must make sense in your mind, otherwise you would not be exposing yourself so badly.

Based upon what I've seen you produce so far, I suspect your talents were wasted a long long time ago, and we're just seeing the backscatter from the event...
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Mr Eager, there is little point in debate with deluded fools determined to deceive.

NASA is the happy hunting ground of the psychiatrist or the group psychopathologist - not the scientist.
 
little grey rabbit said:
Really, this is disappointing. I was hoping to discuss the symbology of the Eagle lunar module and the Columbia command module for a further understanding of the Rapture. Instead I am supposed to explain to imbeciles why the lunar surface is going to a little bit brighter than a flourescent street lamp?????

Alas, my talents are wasted here.
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This is what you come up with? What a lame troll. Just stringing together a bunch of unrelated hooey.

I guess the others were right, you should just be ignored. So be it.
 
little grey rabbit said:
It is not my intention to prove the Apollo landings a Hoax.
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Why do you want to prove anything? There's nothing to prove! The Apollo landings happened, we landed on the moon, end of story!

little grey rabbit said:
...Stanley Kubrick could have fluked the exact appearance of the lunar surface in the film 2001 before the Apollo 11 mission...
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Ever hear of a telescope? Or a pair of binoculars? Ever use one of these to look at the surface of the moon? It's rather impressive what you can see from the earth using one of these sight-enhancing instruments! And yes, I'm sure you'll try to say that telescopes and binoculars were not as powerful in the 1960's as they are today however they were powerful enough to look at a very detailed visual of the surface of the moon and YES you could see that detailed surface before Stanley Kubrick's movie was released!!

little grey rabbit said:
What I want to ask is has any secret information been coded into the Apollo Hoaxes as a mechanism of spreading knowledge in a "hidden in plain sight" manner?

Take for example, Apollo 13.
An explosion in the oxygen tank puts the mission on the brink of catastrophe but, through all-American quick thinking brilliance, the crew use the lunar module as a "life boat" and manage to return safely to earth.

As this is complete fiction, is there any esoteric knowledge concealed within?
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Well no, it's YOU who has decided to call the moon landings COMPLETE FICTION because it seems you lack general basic knowledge on how to do research, my friend!

Do yourself a favor, read Fantastic Voyage by Issac Asimov... this is a work of fiction.

Then read Lee Iaccoca: An Autobiography... this is a work of NON-fiction.

That should get you started!

DC
 
little grey rabbit said:
Look, you are free to believe in the Toothfairy if you like. But the fact is the lighting in films prior to the moon landing - and to training sessions on terra firma

looks exactly like the studio lighting that we are supposed to believe the lunar surface looks like

Its a pity that no one was willing to engage more deeply with this pressing issue. Because the Apollo 13 scenario sounded eerily like Gore Vidal's essay Armageddeon, when he discusses the time line that prominent TV evangelicals describe as the Rapture.
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Okay? So where is this television crew you speak of? Why hasn't anyone of the television crew come forward and said anything about the moon landing being a hoax? Could it be that this is part of the master plan of the NWO to keep people in the dark until the "time comes"?
 
little grey rabbit said:
Look, you are free to believe in the Toothfairy if you like. But the fact is the lighting in films prior to the moon landing - and to training sessions on terra firma

[qimg]http://www.rodoh.us/images/img1/misc1/apollo_02.jpg[/qimg]
[image from forum I am/was moderator of: within guidelines]

looks exactly like the studio lighting that we are supposed to believe the lunar surface looks like.
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Except that I can name at least 5 major difference between this training image and the Apollo mission ones...

1) Multiple shadows - Both crew members are casting multiple shadows indicating multiple light sources. No Apollo mission image has multiple shadows in it.

2) Indistinct and weak shadows - The shadows are weak and indistinct because of the multiple close lights in-filling them. All Apollo Shadows are dark with sharp edges

3) Lack of craters or other features - Even the nearby photos of the Apollo missions show numerous craters, rocks, and other features, there is a major lack of them in this image.

4) Lack of size - even the smallest areas of the moonlandings were bigger than the training area shown. This clearly about a 10x10 square.

5) The front of the LM is lit - They landed facing away from the sun and thus should be shaded.
 
little grey rabbit said:
Really, this is disappointing. I was hoping to discuss the symbology of the Eagle lunar module and the Columbia command module for a further understanding of the Rapture. Instead I am supposed to explain to imbeciles why the lunar surface is going to a little bit brighter than a flourescent street lamp?????

Alas, my talents are wasted here.
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Perhaps you need to go and talk to Richard Hoagland and the Enterprise Mission Crew. Oh, that'd be no good, they believe the missions were real.
 
little grey rabbit said:
Really, this is disappointing. I was hoping to discuss the symbology of the Eagle lunar module and the Columbia command module for a further understanding of the Rapture. Instead I am supposed to explain to imbeciles why the lunar surface is going to a little bit brighter than a flourescent street lamp?????

Alas, my talents are wasted here.
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Get help.
 
little grey rabbit said:
I was hoping to discuss the symbology of the Eagle lunar module and the Columbia command module for a further understanding of the Rapture.
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Sorry for being a bit dim but I don't know what this means. Could you expand further? Thanks.
 
Wow - what a surprise.

They conducted training for the missions: evidence of fakery.

They didn't conduct training for the missions: evidence of fakery.

Yes, your talents are wasted here. You are depriving a village somewhere of an idiot.
 
twinstead said:
What an odd little world people like LGR must live in.
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Most conspiracy theorists seem to have a need to believe that they are among a very few who are smart enough to see the truth. It's simply about maintaining that egotistical fantasy. I once watched a guy explain why the lunar missions must be a hoax because the astronauts couldn't move in their suits in a vacuum. He produced a sealed glass box with an industrial rubber glove fitted at one end and a hose fitting at the other. Using a vacuum pump he proceeded to evacuate the air from the box, then inserted his hand in the glove to show that it was so stiff that it would be virtually impossible to move one's fingers while wearing it. The major flaw with his demonstration was that he had a pressure differential of almost 15 psi between the inside and outside of the glove. In reality, the A7L suits used in the Apollo missions were pressurized to only 3.7 psi. Couple this with the fact that the gloves were specifically designed to work while pressurized and not simply some cheap, heavy-duty rubber gloves, and his argument is complete crap. Yet I still occasionally see it mentioned as proof of a hoax.

I saw another guy on Youtube insist that the landings were impossible because "you can't throttle a rocket". When someone linked to video of the Delta Clipper prototype landing he dropped the whole matter (without admission of error) and moved on to another argument about the camera panning up as the ascent module of the LM launched.
 
jaydeehess said:
My ex was undiagnosed but clearly insane
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My hex-wife was studying to be a serial killer. I say that with the utter-most sincerity. If she hadn't been a coward as well she'd be famous today. (Female serial killers, if you don't know, are rather rare, about 0.1% of the total population of serial killers.)
 
So, LGR, your conspiracy theory in this thread is that not only was the Apollo Project a hoax, but the missions were also esoteric allegories, in the tradition of The Alchemical Journey of Christian Rozenkreutz?
 
Foster Zygote said:
I once watched a guy explain why the lunar missions must be a hoax because the astronauts couldn't move in their suits in a vacuum. He produced a sealed glass box with an industrial rubber glove fitted at one end and a hose fitting at the other. Using a vacuum pump he proceeded to evacuate the air from the box, then inserted his hand in the glove to show that it was so stiff that it would be virtually impossible to move one's fingers while wearing it. The major flaw with his demonstration was that he had a pressure differential of almost 15 psi between the inside and outside of the glove. In reality, the A7L suits used in the Apollo missions were pressurized to only 3.7 psi. Couple this with the fact that the gloves were specifically designed to work while pressurized and not simply some cheap, heavy-duty rubber gloves, and his argument is complete crap. Yet I still occasionally see it mentioned as proof of a hoax.
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I saw that show. The astronauts only wore the black rubber gloves during liftoff. Those gloves were never worn in the vacuum of space. They needed the dexterity of the rubber gloves to flip switches and such. The gloves that they wore on the moon were much too cumbersome to wear in the capsule.

Here's a photo of the black rubber ones...
http://media.photobucket.com/image/apollo astronauts boarding the saturn v/loaloauk/c-5.jpg

Steve S
 
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