I'm Not Voting Tomorrow, And Here's Why

[DavidJames]

It's election day finally! I'm so sick of political calls and advertisements! Tomorrow...

I am as well but "Tomorrow" starts the 2012 election run

 

[Howie Felterbush]

I am as well but "Tomorrow" starts the 2012 election run

 

[Unabogie]

The caps were not imposed upon anyone by government mandate; the caps were chosen by the people when they selected their healthcare plan. My argument is that government does not exist to protect people from the consequences of their own decisions, nor should it.

Thank you! This proves to Howie that elections matter. One side is fighting for health care for everyone, and the other side thinks like you! No one has ever made the point more succinctly. So vote, Howie, or Augustine will choose your government for you. My friend ran his business, paid his taxes and his insurance premiums, and had one bad tragedy screw it all up through no fault of his own. He's 41 years old with two small kids, and if not for the Democrats, he'd be screwed right now.

Do you have evidence that he does not have enough money?

Uh, I do, since I brought it up in the first place. Yes, for the record, if not for the lifting of the lifetime cap, and social security disability (which conservatives want to abolish) they'd be in a world of hurt and the only asset they have is their house, which they'd have to sell to pay for the hospital bills.

 

[Howie Felterbush]

Thank you! This proves to Howie that elections matter. One side is fighting for health care for everyone, and the other side thinks like you! No one has ever made the point more succinctly. So vote, Howie, or Augustine will choose your government for you. My friend ran his business, paid his taxes and his insurance premiums, and had one bad tragedy screw it all up through no fault of his own. He's 41 years old with two small kids, and if not for the Democrats, he'd be screwed right now.



Uh, I do, since I brought it up in the first place. Yes, for the record, if not for the lifting of the lifetime cap, and social security disability (which conservatives want to abolish) they'd be in a world of hurt and the only asset they have is their house, which they'd have to sell to pay for the hospital bills.

You wish it were that easy. Unfortunately for you, Old Howie has something between his ears besides Malt-O-Meal. Your people that are "fighting for health care for everyone" had their chance, and all they did was cock it up.

Here's the Scrutinizer/Felterbush platform for 2012:

Elect us and everyone gets a Cadillac. How will we accomplish this? Well, once we're elected, we'll pass a law that everyone has to buy a Cadillac.

Remember to vote early and often, or you'll miss out on the Cadillac!!

 

[Unabogie]

You wish it were that easy. Unfortunately for you, Old Howie has something between his ears besides Malt-O-Meal. Your people that are "fighting for health care for everyone" had their chance, and all they did was cock it up.

And yet I'm giving you a concrete example of how the new law is saving someone I know from bankruptcy. Unless you hate the new law. In which case your lack of voting allowed it to be passed.

 

[Howie Felterbush]

And yet I'm giving you a concrete example of how the new law is saving someone I know from bankruptcy. Unless you hate the new law. In which case your lack of voting allowed it to be passed.

You're never going to get a Cadillac with that attitude, mister.

 

[DavidJames]

And yet I'm giving you a concrete example of how the new law is saving someone I know from bankruptcy. Unless you hate the new law. In which case your lack of voting allowed it to be passed.

It's become clear you're beating a dead horse. Howie is like many others I've encountered.

 

[The Central Scrutinizer]

You wish it were that easy. Unfortunately for you, Old Howie has something between his ears besides Malt-O-Meal. Your people that are "fighting for health care for everyone" had their chance, and all they did was cock it up.

Here's the Scrutinizer/Felterbush platform for 2012:

Elect us and everyone gets a Cadillac. How will we accomplish this? Well, once we're elected, we'll pass a law that everyone has to buy a Cadillac.

Remember to vote early and often, or you'll miss out on the Cadillac!!

That's the thing - every politician for the last 20 years has run on a platform of cutting wasteful government spending and taking government back for the people. What does that even mean? Take it back from who exactly? Have they cut wasteful spending? Doesn't seem like it - the deficit keeps going up and up and up.

 

[Howie Felterbush]

It's become clear you're beating a dead horse. Howie is like many others I've encountered.

Yep, Stupid Howie. That guy just won't see reason. Doesn't he realize the politicians just want to help people like him?

 

[Unabogie]

You're never going to get a Cadillac with that attitude, mister.

I'd rather have an electric. So I oppose the Cadillac Party and all it stands for.

Which is why I vote.

 

[Howie Felterbush]

I'd rather have an electric. So I oppose the Cadillac Party and all it stands for.

Which is why I vote.

OK, suppose in addition to our Cadillac plan, Scrut and I also have a well thought out plan to end poverty, give everyone who wants one a low cost house, provide truly free health care to low income people, create a million new jobs and clean up the environment (our Cadillacs are well within the current emissions output standards). Based on this platform, would you vote for us? Could you overlook the Cadillac thing? Our opponent, MonkeyGhost/Hokulele, is running on a similar platform, but they have no plans in place, just ideas. We're clearly the lesser of two evils.

Can we count on your support?

 

[Unabogie]

OK, suppose in addition to our Cadillac plan, Scrut and I also have a well thought out plan to end poverty, give everyone who wants one a low cost house, provide truly free health care to low income people, create a million new jobs and clean up the environment (our Cadillacs are well within the current emissions output standards). Based on this platform, would you vote for us? Could you overlook the Cadillac thing? Our opponent, MonkeyGhost/Hokulele, is running on a similar platform, but they have no plans in place, just ideas. We're clearly the lesser of two evils.

Can we count on your support?

You're starting to get the idea. Now put that thinking into practice and go vote, ya loser.

 

[Howie Felterbush]

You didn't answer the question.

Will you vote for Scrut and me?

 

[Augustine]

My friend ran his business, paid his taxes and his insurance premiums, and had one bad tragedy screw it all up through no fault of his own. He's 41 years old with two small kids, and if not for the Democrats, he'd be screwed right now.

Why did your friend have the cap on lifetime benefits that he did? Who was responsible for that choice?

 

[Howie Felterbush]

You didn't answer the question.

Will you vote for Scrut and me?

I understand your reluctance to answer, Unabogie.

If you say "No, I won't vote for you and Scrut", then you're sticking to your guns and refusing to compromise, which makes you just like me.

If you say "Yes, I'll vote for you and Scrut", then you come off as a capricious bandwagon jumper, since just a few posts ago you were against the Cadillac party and everything it stands for.

What's a sheep to do?

 

[FattyCatty]

<snip>What's a sheep to do?

In your case, just say Baaah and go back to grazing.

 

[Howie Felterbush]

In your case, just say Baaah and go back to grazing.

Better to be a sheep with a conscience than just a sheep.

 

[Unabogie]

Why did your friend have the cap on lifetime benefits that he did? Who was responsible for that choice?

We lost our insurance through BCBS in 2009 because we have half our employees in Oregon (2 in CA, 2 in OR). Since BCBS wouldn't insure us (this loss of coverage happened miraculously after my wife had surgery) we were left with one choice, UHC, who would insure us under group coverage. We chose their best plan. Under the circumstances (3 families with no health coverage) we had to act quickly. 3 weeks later Mike had a stroke. Funny how health related decisions are often made under duress and with little time to "shop".

 

[Unabogie]

I understand your reluctance to answer, Unabogie.

If you say "No, I won't vote for you and Scrut", then you're sticking to your guns and refusing to compromise, which makes you just like me.

If you say "Yes, I'll vote for you and Scrut", then you come off as a capricious bandwagon jumper, since just a few posts ago you were against the Cadillac party and everything it stands for.

What's a sheep to do?

Yes, if you were the best choice I'd vote for you.

 

[Mr.D]

I think a wise poet once wrote "You can choose a ready guide or some celestial voice. If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice".

Yes, indeed.

BUT (and this is why I am in favor of adding a "No Confidence" option), how is anyone to know if you have purposely chosen none of the presented options vs. simply not caring enough to vote.

In the absence of a "No Confidence" option, I would say purposely turning in a blank ballot would be the most rational thing to do for someone who refuses to choose between the available candidates - it's actually communicating your decision to not vote back into the system.