Video Fakery in the 9/11 Attack

[Dave Rogers]

I just take in all kinds of information and look at it to see if there could be something to it. Most of the information I have posted in this thread I have collected from the Web along the way.

And how is that different to what all the other members of the truth movement, who are being led round by the nose, think they've done? They all think they're the ones possessing the truth, and they all think you're the one swallowing disinformation. Do you think you can trust the information you've collected from the Web any more than they can?

Dave

 

[Anders Lindman]

I feel that we are going around in circles and are on repeat...

You say you are not convinced but you seem hell bent on proving it... What you lack in evidence you make up for with a closed minds.

Perhaps this has gone on for long enough (we should give him time to compose his ansewers to all the questions that he has ignored till now.)

I await your responses

I'm looking for more and more things to support the no plane theory. I want to see for myself whether it really holds all the way or if it's false.

 

[Anders Lindman]

And how is that different to what all the other members of the truth movement, who are being led round by the nose, think they've done? They all think they're the ones possessing the truth, and they all think you're the one swallowing disinformation. Do you think you can trust the information you've collected from the Web any more than they can?

Dave

The BIG different is that people in general, including 911 truthers, BLINDLY follow authorities. I follow authorities too, but not blindly.

 

[Anders Lindman]

Whatever. It makes it so much simpler for us debunkers when loud twoofers like you appear completely out of their minds. Thanks.

Then show me some debunking! So far I haven't seen squat.

 

[Dave Rogers]

The BIG different is that people in general, including 911 truthers, BLINDLY follow authorities. I follow authorities too, but not blindly.

They would all disagree with you, and say that everyone but them is blindly following authorities. So what differentiates you from them?

Dave

 

[Dave Rogers]

Then show me some debunking! So far I haven't seen squat.

Yes, but your ability to do so is impaired. You've had several things explained to you, but simply taken no notice of the explanations. From this, together with your paranoid interpretations of digital videos, we can conclude that what you see has no relationship to what is actually there, only to what you've chosen to see. So the fact that you've chosen not to see any debunking is irrelevant to the question of whether or not any has been shown to you.

Dave

 

[Regnad Kcin]

This thread is becoming a no-train wreck.

Hee-hee!

 

[Anders Lindman]

They would all disagree with you, and say that everyone but them is blindly following authorities. So what differentiates you from them?

Dave

My guess, I know LESS than them. Less disinfo, that is.

 

[stewster89]

I have no idea. What does statute law mean? Wait, forget it. That's another topic.

Your mentor Jammy can probably tell you....

 

[Anders Lindman]

Yes, but your ability to do so is impaired. You've had several things explained to you, but simply taken no notice of the explanations. From this, together with your paranoid interpretations of digital videos, we can conclude that what you see has no relationship to what is actually there, only to what you've chosen to see. So the fact that you've chosen not to see any debunking is irrelevant to the question of whether or not any has been shown to you.

Dave

Ok, I may have missed some of the debunking. Fair enough. Let's start over with this: I claim that George W. Bush by saying that he saw the first plane hit the WTC was giving a message to people in key positions and positions of power to go along with the cover-up. What say the debunkers?

 

[djlunacee]

Then show me some debunking! So far I haven't seen squat.

You have yet to present a single item that has not been gone over here, ad nauseum.....so what is there to debunk?

 

[Dave Rogers]

Ok, I may have missed some of the debunking. Fair enough. Let's start over with this: I claim that George W. Bush by saying that he saw the first plane hit the WTC was giving a message to people in key positions and positions of power to go along with the cover-up. What say the debunkers?

That there is no evidence presented in favour of this claim, therefore it is meritless and needs no addressing.

Dave

ETA: I could just as easily claim it was a coded message to reptilian aliens from the planet Zarg offering them 10% discount on sun-loungers at Wal-Mart. How do you debunk that?

 

[aggle-rithm]

Ok, I may have missed some of the debunking. Fair enough. Let's start over with this: I claim that George W. Bush by saying that he saw the first plane hit the WTC was giving a message to people in key positions and positions of power to go along with the cover-up. What say the debunkers?

You may have something there...after all, GW Bush was known far and wide for his verbal wizardry and the extreme accuracy of his public statements.

And no one EVER mis-remembers something, so if they get something wrong it's ALWAYS a secret signal to unseen conspirators.

 

[aggle-rithm]

Modern medicine is placebo at best and poison at worst. While others see medical doctors as authority I see them as fools. I don't use medicine.

It's cool how natural selection just cleans things right up, isn't it?

 

[Anders Lindman]

Ok, I may have missed some of the debunking. Fair enough. Let's start over with this: I claim that George W. Bush by saying that he saw the first plane hit the WTC was giving a message to people in key positions and positions of power to go along with the cover-up. What say the debunkers?

To make it easier for the debunkers, so that they don't make a fool of themselves, this statement by GWB was not some slip-up by a president who didn't have his marbles in order. George W. Bush said this publicly on at least two separate occasions:

One is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUXglJU2w6U

The second example is from about 51:40 in this video: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2361717427531377078

 

[Dave Rogers]

To make it easier for the debunkers, so that they don't make a fool of themselves, this statement by GWB was not some slip-up by a president who didn't have his marbles in order.

Nobody's denying that GWB said the same stupid thing twice. This is a president renowned for saying stupid things, remember.

So: Please present your evidence for your claim.

Dave

 

[Anders Lindman]

Nobody's denying that GWB said the same stupid thing twice. This is a president renowned for saying stupid things, remember.

So: Please present your evidence for your claim.

Dave

Now you sound like a truther. That GWB said stupid things. Were the statements really stupid? What he said he never retracted and it was posted on the White House's official website. I find that kind of debunking less than convincing.

 

[Dave Rogers]

Now you sound like a truther. That GWB said stupid things. Were the statements really stupid? What he said he never retracted and it was posted on the White House's official website. I find that kind of debunking less than convincing.

There hasn't been any debunking, because you've presented nothing to debunk. Please present your evidence that Bush's statement was a coded message to innocent members of the government instructing them to cover up the real causes of the attacks.

Dave

 

[Anders Lindman]

There hasn't been any debunking, because you've presented nothing to debunk. Please present your evidence that Bush's statement was a coded message to innocent members of the government instructing them to cover up the real causes of the attacks.

Dave

I may not have presented solid evidence for a cover-up, yet to say that the President of the United State of America was saying foolish things publicly because he for some reason had become a nutcase doesn't sound plausible to me. American presidents don't just blurt out random crazy thoughts. They have well thought through beforehand prepared statements.

 

[Jack by the hedge]

I may not have presented solid evidence for a cover-up, yet to say that the President of the United State of America was saying foolish things publicly because he for some reason had become a nutcase doesn't sound plausible to me. American presidents don't just blurt out random crazy thoughts. They have well thought through beforehand prepared statements.

OK I couldn't resist one more post: The 50 Dumbest Bush Quotes of All Time

I haven't even read the link myself. I just googled "stupid things GWB said" and it was top of the pile.

To declare that it "doesn't sound plausible" that GWB would say foolish things publicly is surely a bid to replace "flat earth" as the benchmark of willful ignorance.