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Why is watching violence more acceptable than nudity/sex?

Morrigan said:
Funny you should pick that as your sarcastic example, considering the biggest "issue" with GTA San Andreas was the Hot Coffee mod. Was it the possibility to murder citizens, go on a chainsaw rampage, steal property or commit all sorts of crimes that you can do in the game that caused controversy and made the game change rating to AO (Adults Only)? No, it was the discovery of a hidden, fully-clothed "sex scene".

So I'm afraid that citing GTA as example only furthers Ivor's point, not yours.
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Is this the "fully clothed sex scene"?



If so, it's quite a bit more graphic than the violence, don't you think?
 
Ivor the Engineer said:
I watched on a national free to air TV station: a man being poisoned and dying of a heart attack; women being beaten; men being shot dead/executed; a man being choked to death. Yet if a free to air TV station had broadcast a programme which graphically featured men and women masturbating to orgasm in the same time slot, I imagine every single page of the Daily Mail could be filled with the letters from appalled people who 'don't want to see that kind of thing' on TV.

Why?
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Answer 1: "it is sinful" => religion.

Answer 2: "children will learn things they should not do before 18" => religion.
 
btw, there has been nudity on US broadcast TV, though admittedly rare. In 1980 the mini-series Shogun had nudity.

I seem to remember quite a bit of nudity in a mini-series about Paul Gauguin in that era also... can't remember the name though.
 
WildCat said:
Is this the "fully clothed sex scene"?



If so, it's quite a bit more graphic than the violence, don't you think?
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You posted a reskin not present in any way in the actual game data.
 
Nudity is fairly common on the state-run TV stations here in Sweden. No one bats an eye.
 
geni said:
It's far less effort to draw lines in the sand with regards to sex than it is with violence. "Show may not contain nipples" is an easy line to draw and a difficult one to game.
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I've never understood that. Once you see the whole breast, even without the nipples... I mean, how is that not nudity ? I've seen _most_ of what I wanted to see, after all :)
 
Belz... said:
I've never understood that. Once you see the whole breast, even without the nipples... I mean, how is that not nudity ? I've seen _most_ of what I wanted to see, after all :)
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It is weird. The prohibition appears to be against showing women's nipples, since showing women in skimpy, tight-fitting outfits which leave little to the imagination is fine, as is showing men bare-chested.

Sometimes I wonder if it's all a scam to artificially increase the sexual interest in women's breasts beyond what would be the norm if we were regularly exposed to the sight of uncovered breasts on a wide variety of women in non-sexual contexts.
 
Ivor the Engineer said:
Sometimes I wonder if it's all a scam to artificially increase the sexual interest in women's breasts beyond what would be the norm if we were regularly exposed to the sight of uncovered breasts on a wide variety of women in non-sexual contexts.
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Oh, that would be unfortunate, though. There's gotta remain some excitement in nudity :)
 
Ivor the Engineer said:
It is weird. The prohibition appears to be against showing women's nipples, since showing women in skimpy, tight-fitting outfits which leave little to the imagination is fine, as is showing men bare-chested.

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And I've seen USA "medical" programs showing breast enlargement surgery in which you see the incision, the tissues being pulled apart, the blood and so on yet the nipple of the breast is blurred!
 
Darat said:
And I've seen USA "medical" programs showing breast enlargement surgery in which you see the incision, the tissues being pulled apart, the blood and so on yet the nipple of the breast is blurred!
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But they don't blur out the nipples of men, even when they have gigantic man-boobs. It's weird.
 
Wiki has a history of toplessness in various cultures around the world, which is probably not safe for work. For those at work, a summary is that it was mostly Christian and Muslim men who decided women's nipples were not to be exposed in public.
 
I think we are all capable of an emotional disconnect regarding violence which we are not regarding sex. Sit down for a minute and try the experiment of imagining a violent scene and a graphic sex scene. Notice any difference in your emotional response?

I'm sat at a PC watching the rain fall. I imagine a movie in which one guy shoots half a dozen people. I feel nothing.
I imagine a sex scene in the same movie. I feel several things.
And I'm 55 and not even watching the movie.

We can distance ourselves from violence when we know it's fake. (Either innately or through habituation I don't know. I do know I recall seeing John Wayne gun down Red Indians when I was six and I didn't get upset by it then either). It surely didn't get me hot and bothered at fourteen. Jane Fonda in Barbarella did.

We cannot distance ourselves from "pretend" sex in the same way we can from "pretend" violence. Our physiological response to pretend sex is more or less the same as our response to real sex. Anyone who has ever been involved in real violence will agree that is absolutely not so in the case of real violence as opposed to pretend violence.

None of the above justifies the double standard of which the OP complains, but I suspect it is closely tied to the explanation.
 
Darat said:
That's because women's nipples shoot out sex-rays which turn any man seeing one into a sex-crazed beast.
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Well, not any man.

Maybe the thinking behind the taboo on seeing female nipples is that we might flash back to infancy and get hungry? Maybe if female toplessness were encouraged there would be a big spike in consumer spending on dairy products.
 
I've got a friend who wouldn't let her daughter watch the second Matrix movie (whatever the hell it was called) not because of the violence, but because of the (single) sex scene.

I never understood that.
 
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