Controlled demolition vs. the towers collapsing

Myriad,

Is that scale in feet? It seems to indicate that in some places the pile was almost 5-7 storeys high?

Am i misreading the scale (it is almost illegible on my ipad)

TAM:)
 
Disbelief said:
So, when you said this (bolding mine):
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ergo said:
So, so far we have two "debunker" claims here that remain unsupported:

1) that "there were no eyewitnesses reports of noises consistent in timing, loudness or brisance with man-made demolition."

and

2) that "nobody heard anything like 1993 in 2001."
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Yup, still incorrect. The first one has been supported somewhat but bases its assertion on there being no other kind of controlled demolition possible in the world other than the ones that go "bang-bang-bang-bang."

The second one has still not been supported by anyone here. Rather a bold claim for Al to make, don't you think? How on earth would he know what witnesses did and didn't compare it to?
 
ergo said:
Yup, still incorrect. The first one has been supported somewhat but bases its assertion on there being no other kind of controlled demolition possible in the world other than the ones that go "bang-bang-bang-bang."

The second one has still not been supported by anyone here. Rather a bold claim for Al to make, don't you think? How on earth would he know what witnesses did and didn't compare it to?
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There were no eyewitnesses reports of noises consistent in timing, loudness or brisance with man-made demolition.

You or anyone else can prove me wrong by identifying a specific noise that (a) immediately precedes some collapse and (b) is loud enough to be reported by many people and recorded by all video cameras in operation and (c) sounds like (brisance) a high explosive detonation.

Prove me wrong.

There were no known injuries or deaths with
symptoms consistent with man-made explosions. There are lots of injuries consistent with burns caused by of jet fuel.
 
ergo said:
Yup, still incorrect. The first one has been supported somewhat but bases its assertion on there being no other kind of controlled demolition possible in the world other than the ones that go "bang-bang-bang-bang."
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Then show another known CD that uses explosives that dont go bang-bang-bang-bang. Super secret silent ones dont really exist so we can scratch them ones.
 
Java Man said:
I'm not trying to say any of those rehearsed lines. Please don't anticipate yourself. Just stick to answering the questions I've put forward to you and others. Why did everyone suddenly go quiet?

Here goes again? What is this pile people are talking about? I understand the fire burned under the pile. It was mentioned to be underground. Was it in a basement or something? How far underground was it?

Those are simple questions I believe you folks should have answers to since you're bringing forth such statements.
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This is the pile.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f5/Wtc-photo.jpg

This is fire.

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Put the two together, and you have what was occuring at Ground Zero.

BTW, underground, under the pile, in the pile, around the pile, everywhere.
 
Java Man said:
Good, now that we got that settled. And thank you for taking the time to set it down in writing. Now we can move on.

Now getting back to the black boxes. How do you guys think the black boxes made it into the underground fires when they were on the topmost floors? Did they race and beat all other debris on the way down?
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Gravity.

How did my bosses wife's desk not make it out, and her office was on the
108th floor? They were not at the top, as you claim. Top = 110th floor. Neither of the planes hit on the 110th floor.
 
T.A.M. said:
Myriad,

Is that scale in feet? It seems to indicate that in some places the pile was almost 5-7 storeys high?

Am i misreading the scale (it is almost illegible on my ipad)

TAM:)
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Yeah, that is correct.

FEMAphoto_WTC-228.jpg


Here is a good one to judge scale. IIRC, the candlestick begins at about 60 feet. I could be wrong on that though.
 
ergo said:
Could you please put a warning on these stupid wikimedia jpegs? And why does a picture of moderate size and uncertain relevance have to hijack the browser every time?
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Moderate? Not quite. IIRC, that picture is over a MB in size. It is completly relevant.

ergo said:
Please tell me you're not suggesting this is the Ground Zero fire.
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Did I say "This is THE fire" or did I say, VERY specifically, "This is fire."
 
ergo said:
The second one has still not been supported by anyone here. Rather a bold claim for Al to make, don't you think? How on earth would he know what witnesses did and didn't compare it to?
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Going by the witness statements, not one is comparing the sounds of explosions to 1993. We can say that no witness has compared the two - at least based off of the statements we have.

So, you can prove us wrong by producing a statement where a witness does compare - and this would back up your claim that witnesses actually did so.
 
triforcharity said:
Moderate? Not quite. IIRC, that picture is over a MB in size. It is completly relevant.
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A picture that small does not need a file size that large.

Did I say "This is THE fire" or did I say, VERY specifically, "This is fire."
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Because we don't know what fire looks like? Anyway, I'm relieved.
 
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