Oh, wait! Here's some more:
“…Under no circumstances may food supplies be assembled among the local inhabitants in order to deliver them to prisoners
of war. Those who violate this command and nevertheless try to circumvent this blockade to allow something to come to the
prisoners place themselves in danger of being shot…” - Eisenhower
"I do not understand the squeamishness about the use of gas. I am strongly in favour of using poisonous gas against
uncivilised tribes." - Churchill, writing as president of the Air Council (1919)
"Perhaps the next time round the way to do it will be to kill women, children and the civilian population." - Churchill, quoted
during the First World War
"My protests (regarding treatment of the German DEF'S) were met with hostility or indifference, and when I threw our ample
rations to them over the barbed wire. I was threatened, making it clear that it was our deliberate policy not to adequately feed
them." - Martin Brech, ex-Private First Class, in Company C of the 14th Infantry, assigned as a guard and interpreter at the
Eisenhower Death Camp at Andernach, along the Rhine River
"Kill the Germans, wherever you find them! Every German is our moral enemy. Have no mercy on women, children, or the aged!
Kill every German -- wipe them out!" - Llya Ehrenburg
"This war is an English war and its goal is the destruction of Germany." - Churchill 1939
"Now we have forced Hitler to war so he no longer can peacefully annihilate one piece of the Treaty of Versailles after the
other." - Lord Halifax, English embassador in Washington (1939)
"... we gave them two Blankets and an Handkerchief out of the Small Pox Hospital. I hope it will have the desired effect."
William Trent, military commander of Pittsburgh writing in his diary about dealings with Indians
"Once you have but got the Track of those Ravenous howling Wolves, then pursue them vigourously; Turn not back till they
are consumed… Beat them small as the Dust before the Wind." --Reverend Cotton Mather
Holy crap! I guess everybody was always trying to kill everybody else
At best this would amount to a mere tu quoque. However, most of the quotes are taken out of context, made up, or laughably irrelevant.
You can certainly have Cotton Mather and William Trent as proving that settlers in North America dehumanised Native Americans, used exterminatory rhetoric, and carried out measures which are widely accepted as utterly criminal, and thought by many to prove genocidal intent. However, Cotton Mather died in 1728 while William Trent wasn't born until 1715, so that these remarks clearly cannot relate to the same moment in time.
The Lord Halifax quote is evidently made up by nutzis online as there are
only 18 hits for the exact phrase on Google. Please provide a source. In any case: the quote doesn't indicate a British intent to annihilate Germany or the German people.
Ribbentrop histrionically claimed the following when he told the British to gfts on 3 September 1939
If the British Government hitherto always refused these offers and now answer with an open threat of war, it is not the fault of the German people and their Government, but exclusively the fault of the British Cabinet or of those men who for years have been preaching the destruction and extermination of the German people.
http://avalon.law.yale.edu/wwii/gp3.asp
I should think that the Nazi-lovers on here can pony up proof of what the champagne salesman was saying. We'll come back to the Nazi obsession with plots to exterminate the German people, though.
The Churchill quote about the war being an English war also appears to be made-up, though it has
258 hits on Google. Evidently, the nutzis like it lots.
Source please, or you should apologise for passing off invented quotations onto the forum.
Your next Churchill quote traces back to Joerg Friedrich's Der Brand, p.65, which I know only because the first hit is to David Irving's website and I happen to own Friedrich's book.
Friedrich does not use footnotes. However, he makes it quite clear that Churchill was commenting - according to Friedrich in 1925 - on WWI and reflecting on the nature of future war. The references point to a book published in 1932 entitled Thoughts and Adventures, suggesting a collection of newspaper articles or the like. No page numbers are given.
So Churchill may have said this, and he may not. It may be entirely out of context for all we know. Plenty of writers in the interwar years foresaw that total war would claim ever more civilian live and require the deliberate targeting of enemy infrastructure and workforces. This is hardly news. The line between total war and genocide is relatively thin, and it is doubtful that without the context of total war from 1914-1945 that either the Armenian genocide, the Holocaust or Stalin's crimes would have taken on the extent that they eventually did.
But let's follow Dogzilla's tu quoque reasoning for the sake of argument. If Churchill's musings in 1925 or 1932 are somehow probative of British exterminatory intent, then Hitler's statement in Mein Kampf that it would have been a good idea to gas 12-15,000 Jews becomes entirely sufficient proof of the Holocaust, rather than a mere indicator of Dolfy's already murderous mentality before he became Chancellor of Germany.
Your Eisenhower 'quote' vanishes back into unsourced waffle
from the Zundelsite and rense.com, even the 'Gnostic Liberation Front' spams this one.
Source, please, or apologise to the forum.
Martin Brech's remarks are taken from
an article which appeared in the Journal of Historical review. They are the words of a POW camp guard, and as such cannot indicate anything about policy. They also amount to a very late eyewitness testimony, given 45 years after the war, i.e. exactly the kind of evidence that you would dismiss if it related to Nazi crimes.
Way to go, Dogzilla! You've just proven you have a blatant evidentiary double standard.
Churchill's quote regarding gassing Kurds in Iraq after WWI has already been shown to be selectively cited in whatever your 'source' was. The quote discusses using tear gas and says it is not necessary to use the 'most deadly gasses'. It has also been proven that
no gas was ever used in Iraq during the British occupation.
That leaves your Ehrenburg quote, which is - for once - entirely accurate. Since the behaviour of Red Army soldiers in Germany 1945 is well known, this actually shows that a mere journalist can influence 'wild' actions which are not state policy. There are no orders from Zhukov or Stalin to kill all Germans, quite the contrary: the Red Army cracked down after the killings and the epidemic of rape threatened military discipline. Before long, Soviet garrison troops were confined to barracks and prevented from fraternising with East Germans, a policy which remained in force through the rest of the Cold War.
So let's quote Nazi conspiraloon antisemite Johann von Leers - who later converted to Islam and sold his services to Arab nationalists - from 1943. He was a mere journalist, too:
Johann von Leers, 'Schuld ist der Jude', Der Fuehrer, May 17, 1943
Es gebe "heute Menschen genug, die sich darueber beklagen, dass wir die Juden aus Europa ausrotten..... Ja, aber die Methoden? Wer Methode sagt, hat immer Unrecht. Es kommt auf das Ergebnis an. Das Ergebnis fuer den Arzt muss die restlose Ausschaltung der Cholera sein, das Ergebnis fuer unser Volk die restlose Ausschaltung der Juden sein. Der Kampf steht 'Spitz auf Knopf'. Es geht zwischen uns und den Juden darum, wer wen ueberlebt. Wenn die Juden siegen, wird unser ganzes Volk so niedergemetzelt wie die polnischen Offiziere im Walde von Katyn - und wenn wir den Juden die Moeglichkeit nehmen wollen, nach diesem Krieg wieder einen Krieg und noch einen neuen Krieg und immer neue Kriege und Revolutionen zusammenzubrauen, von denen sich jeder gegen uns richtet und alle nur den Zweck haben, die juedische Rache an uns zu vollziehen - dann duerfen wir das Judentum zwischen uns nicht existieren lassen."
It's back to that ol' Nazi paranoia again. When they said either Germany will be exterminated or the Jews will, they meant it quite literally.
So, all in all, congratulations, Dogzilla! You managed to discredit yourself fairly completely here. At the very least, an apology is owed to the forum for trying to palm off faked quotations into this discussion.
You might also wish to consider your blatant double standards of evidence, since none of the quotes are equal to the Sonthofen speech. If you seriously believe that spamming a quote from the Zundelsite/rense.com/IHR website/Gnostic Liberation Front is making an argument, then you need your head examined.
