Invitation to Derek Johnson to discuss his ideas

[beachnut]

Please (re)read #1400 and 1475. There are manifold charges therein that speak contrary to your statement:

...
Now get back to working on #1152, I look forward to your answers.

Thanks,
Derek

Why do you lie in your presentations?

When will you discuss why you mislead people. #1457

You make up lies to support your delusions in your presentation. See #1399

Discuss why you leave lies in your presentations and have them on-line to mislead people with lies.


Derek's presentation on-line now! Has this lie in it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXcUS-Sw9qw&feature=related
Why is this lie on-line? Discuss why you keep lies up. Is this fraud? Is it being truthful? Is it living up to how an engineer should behave?

 

[Miragememories]

Why do you lie in your presentations?

When will you discuss why you mislead people. #1457

You make up lies to support your delusions in your presentation. See #1399

Discuss why you leave lies in your presentations and have them on-line to mislead people with lies.

Why do you Nazify every post by calling calling people who disagree with you liars?

Always a wide brush and never a retraction.

Span bot fantastique!

MM

 

[D'rok]

Typically truther MO in this thread from Derek:

1. Ask questions
2. Ignore answers
3. Repeat questions

Not very impressive.

 

[George 152]

Why do you Nazify every post by calling calling people who disagree with you liars?

Always a wide brush and never a retraction.

Span bot fantastique!

MM

Molten steel ?
After days ?
If you actually believe that steel can remain molten outside a Bessemer without enormous inputs of energy for any longer than minutes post the evidence

 

[beachnut]

Why do you Nazify every post by calling calling people who disagree with you liars?

Always a wide brush and never a retraction.

Span bot fantastique!

MM

Wow, you used up all your evidence to support Derek attacking me. Zero evidence to support Derek; Why?

Please tell me why this is not a lie. Good luck.

One of many of Derek's lies in his presentation. Can you help him or are you obsessed with calling me names? Misspelled names.

 

[Miragememories]

Why are you unable to see Derek's lies? No knowledge, and do you prefer to say the Jews did it and other idiotic lies. You like lies, and you don't know they are lies? All 911 truth needs is a wide brush, all you guys were debunked on 911 and failed to comprehend. Now you have no evidence and no clue what happen on 911 so you make up lies.

Please watch Derek's presentation and pick one of his failed ideas and try to save it. Wait, you are a spam bot calling me a spam bot because I understand 911, and you don't? good for you

You reveal a simpleton depth of argument by suggesting I believe the "Jews did it".

A lot of Nazis were Catholics but I certainly don't blame the Catholics for WWII.

I don't believe it is reasonable to attack Muslims because of the actions of terrorists who happen to be Muslims.

It is is absurd and shallowing reasoning.

Which I guess is why you employ it so extensively.

MM

 

[twinstead]

You reveal a simpleton depth of argument by suggesting I believe the "Jews did it".

A lot of Nazis were Catholics but I certainly don't blame the Catholics for WWII.

I don't believe it is reasonable to attack Muslims because of the actions of terrorists who happen to be Muslims.

It is is absurd and shallowing reasoning.

Which I guess is why you employ it so extensively.

MM

So who exactly believes it is reasonable to attack Muslims because of the actions of terrorists who happen to be Muslims?

 

[beachnut]

You reveal a simpleton depth of argument by suggesting I believe the "Jews did it".

A lot of Nazis were Catholics but I certainly don't blame the Catholics for WWII.

I don't believe it is reasonable to attack Muslims because of the actions of terrorists who happen to be Muslims.

It is is absurd and shallowing reasoning.

Which I guess is why you employ it so extensively.

MM

The cool part of your post, it took you longer to compose your off topic tripe than it did for me to edit my post to be more on topic. !!!!

lol

You are too easy. You have no evidence so you present nothing to support Derek and you type slower than a snail.

This boils down to, you can't do engineering, and you can't support Derek. You can't fix his lies. So you do off topic fails.

The cool part; you don't need engineering skills to figure out Derek's claims of thermite and CD are moronic nonsense.

 

[Miragememories]

The cool part of your post, it took you longer to compose your off topic tripe than it did for me to edit my post to be more on topic. !!!!

lol

You are too easy. You have no evidence so you present nothing to support Derek and you type slower than a snail.

The point remains, I quoted what you said!

It is sad that you think removal of your "the Jews did it" accusation was "cool".

It revealed what you thought, and more importantly felt compelled to post.

Denial will get you nowhere and editing it out is just lying out of necessity.

Too funny.

MM

 

[ProBonoShill]

Why do you Nazify every post by calling calling people who disagree with you liars?

Always a wide brush and never a retraction.

Span bot fantastique!

MM

Why do you and other truthers continually derail threads?

Now that you're here, care to make an attempt?

Originally Posted by Oystein
Derek, if you think that eye witnesses know molten steel when they see it, then surely you will be able to pass this test:

Exhibit #1:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/120/2...fba958.jpg?v=0
What is it?

Exhibit #2:
http://cache.io9.com/assets/images/i...8/79060530.jpg
What is it?

Exhibit #3:
http://www.lawrenceport.com/images/chuquiLiquid.jpg
What is it?

Exhibit #4:
http://www.jameslockman.com/jamesblog/down_the_hole.jpg
What is it?

Exhibt #5:
http://gallery.usgs.gov/images/05_26...dium/Drip2.JPG
What is it?

Exhibit #6:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/141/3...87064f.jpg?v=0
What is it?

Exhibit #7:
http://www.amemco.us/exported photos/foundry.gif
What is it?

 

[beachnut]

The point remains, I quoted what you said!

It is sad that you think removal of your "the Jews did it" accusation was "cool".

It revealed what you thought, and more importantly felt compelled to post.

Denial will get you nowhere and editing it out is just lying out of necessity.

Too funny.

MM

Yes, the point remains, I was able to edit my post before you posted your failed response. By 3 minutes. Now that is some slow typing. But I thought you were MaGz, he is neoNAZI, there are a bunch in your 911 truth movement. My mistake, you only call people who understand 911 NAZIs, you have never blamed 911 on the Jews. Do you support the Pull it lie? Derek does.

You failed to support Derek again. Good job

Why is this a lie?

Last try to prove you can do reality based research. This is from Derek's presentation, filled with lies, this is one of them. Good luck.

Cool, you call everyone NAZIs. Cool. Good job.

You have no evidence and can't save Derek's idiotic claim of thermite. Wow. Now you have to call us NAZIs again, and run away after posting nothing. I posted proof Derek lies. You posted proof I can type and compose faster than you. I also made the photo while you were hung up on calling me a span bot. What is a span bot?

 

[Miragememories]

Why do you and other truthers continually derail threads?

Now that you're here, care to make an attempt?

It is a picture.

Ask a real question if you want a real answer.

MM

 

[ProBonoShill]

It is a picture.

Ask a real question if you want a real answer.

MM

I know it's difficult for a truther but stop being obtuse.

The quoted post by Oystein is very easy to understand (even for you), do you have any answers? Any other truthers want to give it a go?

If not, I guess we can safely assume that identifying molten substances is almost impossible unless tests are done to determine the contents.

Therefore reports of molten steel at ground zero are misleading and/or erroneous.

 

[Miragememories]

You failed to support Derek again. Good job

Why is this a lie?
[qimg]http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll116/tjkb/1LieNumber27325DerekJ.jpg[/qimg]
Last try to prove you can do reality based research. This is from Derek's presentation, filled with lies, this is one of them. Good luck.

Cool, you call everyone NAZIs. Cool. Good job.

You have no evidence and can't save Derek's idiotic claim of thermite. Wow. Now you have to call us NAZIs again, and run away after posting nothing. I posted proof Derek lies. You posted proof I can type and compose faster than you. I also made the photo while you were hung up on calling me a span bot. What is a span bot?

I get it.

You don't have to keep shoving it into my face.

You constantly accuse 9/11 Truthers of being liars because lying is your profession.

I don't label everyone a Nazi.

That is a lie.

"I also made the photo while you were hung up on calling me a span bot."

Congrats on your ability to to do a simple screen capture.

Amazing prowess on a computer.

The evidence of thermite is in the dust.

The argument that it is a lie exists in your inability to accept any evidence
that contradicts your refusal to consider anything that would cause you embarrassment.

A span bot is the typo version of a spambot.

MM

 

[WildCat]

Typically truther MO in this thread from Derek:

1. Ask questions
2. Ignore answers
3. Repeat questions

Not very impressive.

And he's the best they have!

 

[DGM]

And he's the best they have!

Don't let Richard hear you say that.

 

[beachnut]

...
The evidence of thermite is in the dust. ...
MM

Prove it. Jones failed and he is a physicist? A physics is not qualified any more than you are; no wonder he has to lie. He thinks Haiti's earthquake was caused by the US. That is an insane claim, as is his claim of thermite. He has a record of failed ideas.


No, there is zero evidence of thermite in the dust. The Jones paper proves it was not thermite. Their dust samples had elements no found in dust, but found in paint. They have to make up another lie and say the samples were contaminated with paint. Kind of proof of why they had to pay to publish their fantasy paper.

Thermite leave iron behind fused to things like steel columns. Zero found.

Now you spread lies about thermite. You can't prove your claim, you let Jones and other failed scientist do your thinking for you. You post their claim, you can't support their claims with evidence. You used a claim as evidence. A made up claim of thermite is not evidence, it is fraud.

How much thermite does it take to do your delusion of what happen on 911. Did you do the math? Derek can't, can you.

Why does Derek lie about Robertson, and making up a lie saying he saw melted steel? I have proved a few times Derek is wrong, why can't you do the same?


9 years of failure is 911 truth. If you have evidence of thermite, you have a Pulitzer Prize. You have nothing but talk. Prove me wrong, Go Get Your Pulitzer Prize Now! Do it. Nixon lied, he resigned, a Pulitzer Prize was earned. You have lies, they don't give Pulitzers to liars like Jones, DRG, and Gage. You picked liars to support, and you do it with zero evidence.

911 truth and Derek spread false information, after 9 years there is no excuse for believing in the lie you just posted.

 

[Miragememories]

"..no found in dust, but found in paint. They have to make up another lie and say the samples were contaminated with paint."

No found?

Well it was dust and there was paint.

I suggest you look up the meaning of dust.

"Did you do the math?

I'd rather not tax your educational background with mathematical explanations.

" Nixon lied, he resigned..

He resigned only because to not resign would have resulted in his impeachment.

Gerald Ford conveniently pardoned him and the rest is history.

MM

 

[Oystein]

...The firefighters were describing molten steel, based on what they say. They said molten steel.
...

If someone says molten steel, is he correct 100% of the time?
50% of the time?

Is it even possible to tell by sight if some glowing material is molten and steel?

I say no.
If you say yes, take the test.

 

[Oystein]

...
Will they ever answer my questions about the columns? I doubt it, they can't
...

Will you ever answer the question about how to identify material als molten steel by sight, and take the test to prove it? I doubt it, you can't.