• Quick note - the problem with Youtube videos not embedding on the forum appears to have been fixed, thanks to ZiprHead. If you do still see problems let me know.

Invitation to Derek Johnson to discuss his ideas

Derek Johnson said:
TFK informed me last December that JREF had "9-11 truth debunking" experts.

Not so much.
Click to expand...

How do you propose someone DEBUNK a question? All you have done since you got here, like any other truther, is "Just ask questions". Questions cannot be debunked.

Fail.

TAM:)
 
Derek Johnson said:
TFK informed me last December that JREF had "9-11 truth debunking" experts.

Not so much.
Click to expand...
You're certainly entitled to your opinion. However, it is important to realize that a low signal-to-noise ratio can be deceiving.
 
Derek Johnson said:
#1153. Answer them please T.A.M.

I wouldn't ask them if I didn't know the answers, or could get very close.

The point is to see how far you get. You won't even answer, so the entire thing is futile. Nobody here will answer these, because those who understand where I am going will have to square with solid body mechanics, Lagrange, Newton.

I do get a kick out out of the big talk, and then no walk.
Click to expand...

You are doing all the talk and failed to provide the equations related to Lagrange to the discussion. The equations when you get time.


Show the equations in question, related to your energy issue on the columns. You brought it up, where are the equations?

Talk, no walk. cool

UTA, how many support your CD delusion? Thermite?

How will you use your answer to your questions which you are sitting on, to support your thermite CD junk?


Derek Johnson said:
TFK informed me last December that JREF had "9-11 truth debunking" experts.

Not so much.
Click to expand...
You come with delusions of thermite; you are debunked. You have no evidence, and you can't tie your questions, and answers you sit on, to your failed delusion.

You were debunked on 911.
 
Good night Derek.

Now after I am gone, exhibit some more child like behavior and call me a coward a few more times. I love it...you are, with expertise like I have rarely seen, showing readers exactly what the so called truther "experts" are all about, and what they REALLY have to say about 9/11...not much of worth.

TAM:)
 
AZCat said:
You're certainly entitled to your opinion. However, it is important to realize that a low signal-to-noise ratio can be deceiving.
Click to expand...

What's ironic is TFK got these questions (or similar ones) almost a year ago.

No answers still. Fire-induced collapse through 81 W14x730s is hard to explain, I'll admit, but TFK overstated these "experts" ability....a bit.

;)
 
Derek Johnson said:
Don't be stupid.



NIST specifically said no such thing Tom. You made that up.

You paraphrased NIST and cast your paraphrase as "NIST specifically says" which is not true. This is lying. And your pathetic attempt to weasel and claw out of it after the fact is equally pathetic. I thought you were good at this. Sorry to break it to you Tom, your "debunking" is a joke.
Click to expand...


Simple: ONE answer, please.

Did NIST say "In Stage 2, the north face descended at gravitational acceleration, as exterior column buckling progressed and the columns provided negligible support to the upper portion of the north face. This free fall drop continued for approximately 8 stories (105 ft)..."

or

"In Stage 2, the building descended at gravitational acceleration, as exterior column buckling progressed and the columns provided negligible support to the upper portion of the north face. This free fall drop continued for approximately 8 stories (105 ft)"

This shouldn't be too hard ...


tom
 
16.5 said:
huh, i've already responded to this, twice:

He has posted nist’s response to the foia numerous times.

In so doing, he must of course be aware that he and his hero have recourse to the federal courts. Federal courts have jurisdiction to "enjoin the agency from withholding agency records" 5 u.s.c. § 552(a)(4)(b).

"an agency seeking to withhold information under an exemption to foia has the burden of proving that the information falls under the claimed exemption." gc micro corp. V. Defense logistics agency, 33 f.3d 1109, 1113 (9th cir. 1994); see also lewis v. Irs, 823 f.2d 375, 378 (9th cir.1987).

what is the status of the litigation in the federal courts, derek?

eta:

Just curious why you think spending your time on jref is a good way to bring about justice. Would it not be better to file a lawsuit seeking judicial review of nist's conclusion that the disclosure of the evidence would jeopardize public safety?
Click to expand...

bump.

coward much, derek

TICK TOCK
 
Tom said:

tfk said:
"NIST specifically says that the external north wall fell, for approximately 100' at "approximately g"."
Click to expand...

And I asked "Which page did you read this?". I'll ask again, where exactly did NIST specifically say exactly this Tom? Just point it out. Specifically says has meaning, or did you make another mistake?

Your "sreams one word" is bs, and your attempt to weasel away are telling of your character. Again Tom, where exactly does NIST say:

tfk said:
"NIST specifically says that the external north wall fell, for approximately 100' at "approximately g"."
Click to expand...

?

Hmm?
 
I am afraid UT failed... a coward i m

Derek Johnson said:
Coward much beachnut?
Click to expand...

You have the CD delusion, and I am so scared. Boo

When will you step up and take action?

I am still trembling thinking about your real CD deal; I knew him when he was a wee engineer, a junior realcddeal, a junior Tony. yes those were the days of 911 truth, the early days; WAIT, it has been 9 years of failure, as bad as Bigfoot, maybe worse. Never-mind.

It is my opinion that a more complete and thorough FEA survey than the one I performed will help erode the credibility of the 9-11 report of record, and provide political pressure to bring those responsible for the 9-11 murders to trial.
Click to expand...
LOL, how will you bring those responsible to trial for murder when you can't specify the amount of thermite used in your delusional CD lie. You have no clue who did it, and you can't explain how it was done. (the 19 terrorists are dead, too late for trial)


But you are going to erode the credibility of the 911 report? LOL, the WTC 7 fell due to fire. Good luck. If you defeat NIST, you are stuck with Fire.

Next delusion. What about Flight 93 and 77? Was the Pentagon thermite too? Flight 93, was the Capitol laced with Thermite TOO!!!! WOO, WOO

Bet the Capitol thermite is still there!!!! EVIDENCE!!!!
 
Last edited:
AZCat said:
Really? How much time did you anticipate it would take him to answer?
Click to expand...

Last January would have been nice, or in December when we had e-mail correspondance back and forth. My questions are not that hard, especially for "experts" like Tom.

Now he's made a complete fool of himself in front of his peers.
 
Derek Johnson said:
Tom said:



And I asked "Which page did you read this?". I'll ask again, where exactly did NIST specifically say exactly this Tom? Just point it out. Specifically says has meaning, or did you make another mistake?

Your "sreams one word" is bs, and your attempt to weasel away are telling of your character. Again Tom, where exactly does NIST say:



?

Hmm?
Click to expand...

That is your response truther? He pointed you to the pages he cited and you are quibbling over punctuation?

How's that federal case seeking judicial review, truther?

My quotation of the federal statutes involved up to your standards, truther?
 
Derek Johnson said:
Last January would have been nice, or in December when we had e-mail correspondance back and forth. My questions are not that hard, especially for "experts" like Tom.
Click to expand...
Remember - you're not paying him (as far as I know), so you probably can't expect 50 hours a week devoted to your questions.

Has tfk claimed to be an expert? I don't remember reading that, but maybe he made the claim in your correspondence.
 
Derek Johnson said:
Questions from the coward beachnut then?
Click to expand...

When will you explain how much thermite it took for your CD theory? You have had 9 years; where is your answer. My questions are not that hard, especially for "experts" like all of your friends at AE! Now you have made a complete fool of yourself in front of the world by not presenting your thermite evidence, how much, who did it, how was it done?

Tick tock...


So you have no evidence of who? You said as if you knew!
It is my opinion that a more complete and thorough FEA survey than the one I performed will help erode the credibility of the 9-11 report of record, and provide political pressure to bring those responsible for the 9-11 murders to trial.
Click to expand...
Who are those responsible and how will asking questions you already have the answers to solve 911?

Tick tock... Have you told the police you are withholding who did 911?
 
Last edited:
Derek Johnson said:
I'm with you on this one 16.5. You're right. The suit could also be opened for their failure to satisfy NCST.
Click to expand...

And, what is stopping you or your hero? You are on a website accomplishing nothing, yet you do, what exactly?

Complain about not getting the information? Seriously?

Tell you what, I will download and post a complaint seeking judicial review for you and your pal. Will you take ACTION, or as another truther said not so long ago, just sit on the internet conspiraspanking?
 
AZCat said:
Remember - you're not paying him (as far as I know), so you probably can't expect 50 hours a week devoted to your questions.

Has tfk claimed to be an expert? I don't remember reading that, but maybe he made the claim in your correspondence.
Click to expand...

His words were "there are plenty of people there more than capable of answering all of your questions."

Where are they?

They are not that hard. And they have been multiplied all over this thread.
 
beachnut said:
When will you explain how much thermite it took for your CD theory? You have had 9 years; where is your answer. My questions are not that hard, especially for "experts" like all of your friends at AE! Now you have made a complete fool of yourself in front of the world by not presenting your thermite evidence, how much, who did it, how was it done?

Tick tock...
Click to expand...

I didn't come here to prove anything. I was asked to come here and was promised answers to my questions.

What's holding you back beachnut?
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Back
Top Bottom