Ed All 43 videos "Second Hit"" [Explosion]at WTC 2: Plane or No Plane?

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jammonius said:
Here's what I'll do for you: If you are curious about fuming in connection with GZ, simply google "fuming gz" or "fuming ground zero" or "fuming wtc" and report your results. If you disagree with the claim, then post up your disagreement.

After that, you can also google "wheel, invention of"...

Get it?
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I googled 'fuming gz' and then 'fuming ground zero'. Results were:

1) This thread.
2) Judy Wood's site.
3) Pages of links unrelated to 9/11 or mysterious 'fumes' at Ground Zero, to articles similar to that posted by DGM.

I understand that Judy Wood has such a unique mind that none of the staid, hidebound, traditional scientific community share her views on 9/11 [/sarcasm]. Nor do I.

I didn't complete the follow-on assignment.
 
jammonius said:
The fuming that lasted not for days, weeks, months, but years at GZ was never officially explained for what it really was: The aftermath of the use of directed energy weaponry (DEW) and a toxic brew that is responsible for the death of John Zadroga and the death and illness of many others. Unfortunately, sympathy for victims does not appear to extend to providing them with necessary health care.
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"Years"? That's silly. I passed through GZ daily starting as soon as it was open to the public,
 
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jammonius said:
This is a reply to Titanic's post 2793:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6171717&postcount=2793

There is not one single source, link or even the slightest hint of proof of any assertion contained in that post.

As such, that post does not refute anything at all.
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WOW, and despite this post by you, you also write:
The fuming that lasted not for days, weeks, months, but years at GZ was never officially explained for what it really was: The aftermath of the use of directed energy weaponry (DEW) and a toxic brew that is responsible for the death of John Zadroga and the death and illness of many others.
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When oddly enough NO ONE AT ALL has ever bothered to actually illustrate, let alone demonstrate, that the DEW that is claimed was used on Manhattan on 9/11/01 exists and can do all the myriad things attributed to it such as causing a toxic brew in the rubble.
Ms.Wood will not even deign to describe this DEW as to it make up(particles? frequency? amplitide? power requirements?)
Face it, the story of a fantastical directed energy weapon as put forth by Ms. Wood and some members of the 911 TM is pure and unadulterated fiction with about as much proof of existance as a Star Trek transporter beam.

You also seem to assume that Sept '01 to Feb. '02 constitutes a lot more time than most people who learned time and date co-ordinates in grade 1 would attribute to that span. :D
 
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"Years"? Thar's silly. I passed through GZ daily starting as soon as it was open to the public,
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Correct me if I am mistaken but, the entire site was a large hole in the ground by the first anniversary?

If so then one marvels at the power of this(unsubstantiated, un-known, famtastical and fictional) space-a-beam that could penetrate down to the foundation (or even to bedrock?) and, despite all materials that constituted the towers and other WTC complex structures having been trucked away, causes a toxic brew of mysterious 'fumes' to emanate from the site until at least the second anniversary of the destruction!:eek::eye-poppi
 
The crew and passengers of United Airlines Flight 175

On the morning of September 11 2001, United Airlines Flight 175 was flying to Los Angeles from Boston, and was hijacked by Islamic terrorists. Shortly after taking off it was deliberately flown into the South Tower of the World Trade Centre, New York.

59 passengers and crew were on board (not counting the hijackers).

All were killed.

UNITED AIRLINES FLIGHT 175 PASSENGERS

Daniel BroadHurst, 41, Ronald Gamboa, 33, and their adoptive son, David Gamboa-Brandhorst, 3, were passengers on Flight 175. They lived in Los Angeles. They were travelling home from a vist to a friend (Donato Tramuto) in Maine. Daniel was an accountant for Price Waterhouse, Ronald was a manager of a GAP store in Santa Monica.

Donato Tamuto explains that Daniel and Ron had been a couple since meeting at a party 13 years earlier, Ron could "make a rainy day look happy" he said. Daniel's brother David, (whom baby David was named after) said, "Ron was the other side that kept Dan civil".

A former classmate and workmate of Daniel, Jill Harvey, said "I am so very sorry for the loss of this wonderful man.....He was a kind man with a great heart.....At least God has chosen to take Dan with him to be there for his new son so he wouldn't be without his Dad".

Daniel and Ron had planned to adopt another child.


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Source:- HERE HERE HERE


Immutable facts. Unassailable reason.


Compus
 
jammonius said:
Cut the crap. If you want to know about fuming at GZl; or, better still, if you dispute the claim of "fuming" as a way of explaining why it took until February 2002 before the "fire" was officially declared to be out at GZ, then do so.
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Is “fuming” another word to describe steam and condensation?

You should know full well by now that I am not going to go off on some sort of "20 questions" quest for you under any circumstance or pretense. If you want to know something about the subject, look it up. You are not helpless I don't think.
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Being that you seem to have difficulty answering just one question, we would not expect you to attempt to answer 20 of them.

Here's what I'll do for you: If you are curious about fuming in connection with GZ, simply google "fuming gz" or "fuming ground zero" or "fuming wtc" and report your results. If you disagree with the claim, then post up your disagreement.
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Here’s what I’ll do for you, I’ll tell you that you have no idea what you are talking about!
The week after 9/11, my department sent a team of firefighters to NYC to assist in the search operations. These members are highly trained in USAR techniques and HazMat operations at the Tech Level. Each member carries a personal alert system for hazardous substances as part of his PPE. During the week that they were there, not one alert was sounded, not one!


After that, you can also google "wheel, invention of"...

Get it?
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Just a suggestion, try to Google; brain, how to get one.
 
Jam, you seem to flat out refuse to answer questions as to what you think happened to the people who boarded the planes that were crashed. on 9/11. If you doubt the planes existed, one can only assume you doubt the people existed.
You have refused to answer, often saying such was off topic .

So, I invite you to post on the thread I started that is titled 'How do no-planers explain away the people who were on the planes? '. You seemed to have avoided that thread- but please pop by- I'd love to hear what you think happened to all those people who vanished on 9/11. Discussing the people such as Ed Felt and Betty Ong on that thread would be very much on topic.
 
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jaydeehess said:
Correct me if I am mistaken but, the entire site was a large hole in the ground by the first anniversary?

If so then one marvels at the power of this(unsubstantiated, un-known, famtastical and fictional) space-a-beam that could penetrate down to the foundation (or even to bedrock?) and, despite all materials that constituted the towers and other WTC complex structures having been trucked away, causes a toxic brew of mysterious 'fumes' to emanate from the site until at least the second anniversary of the destruction!:eek::eye-poppi
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If I remember correctly he showed a picture of a water truck hosing down the construction site years later as "proof" that something was wrong. I remember pointing out that it's standard "dust control" (required in US) but he never answered.
 
jaydeehess said:
Correct me if I am mistaken but, the entire site was a large hole in the ground by the first anniversary?
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If I had known that I was going to be arguing with idiots 9 years later I would have kept a journal and bought my first digicam sooner.

New Yorkers saw so much that shows the "Truth Movement" for the stupidity it is.
 
jaydeehess said:
Ms.Wood will not even deign to describe this DEW as to it make up(particles? frequency? amplitide? power requirements?)
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Ahhhh Judy Wood and her Death Beam from Space theory.

Her stock answer when quizzed on the nature of the Space Beam DE weaponry is, "it's energy, that's directed and used as a weapon".

And on the question of replication of such DEW effects (those that destroyed the towers) I remember her being (mildy) quizzed on this subject by Jim Fetzer in an interview. (I paraphrase):-

Jim: Could (what happened at the WTC) be replicated?

Judy: There is no need for replication! Where are the towers? The first tower went poof with a Space Beam Weapon. It was replicated when the second tower went poof with a Space Beam Weapon.

Compus
 
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CompusMentus said:
Ahhhh Judy Wood and her Death Beam from Space theory.

Her stock answer when quizzed on the nature of the Space Beam DE weaponry is, "it's energy, that's directed and used as a weapon".

And on the question of replication of such DEW effects (those that destroyed the towers) I remember her being (mildy) quizzed on this subject by Jim Fetzer in an interview. (I paraphrase):-

Jim: Could (what happened at the WTC) be replicated?

Judy: There is no need for replication! Where are the towers? The first tower went poof with a Space Beam Weapon. It was replicated when the second tower went poof Space Beam Weapon.



Compus
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People really believe this? Do they think aliens and/or time travelers brought down the WTC?
Do they have proof?
 
jammonius said:
Unfortunately, that is not what appears to motivate Compus. Instead, Compus is using victims to support the claim a jetliner crashed on 9/11 and not support for victims.
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I think he's showing you they did exist and they were on flight 175 and were murdered when it was flown into 2WTC, you know, the plane crash that was seen by thousands with their own eyes and was seen live and in real time on television by millions.

I think what he isn't trying to do is suggest something like they never were on the plane, they're fictitious, their families were paid off, etc. That would be vile and sickening, don't you agree?
 
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