Merged Lockerbie bomber alive after 9 months

Caustic Logic, I appreciate you're posting in a hurry, and it's difficult to express your own level of understanding of this complex issue in a short time, to posters who obviously haven't spent months studying the issues, and whose understanding is at best superficial.

However, I think these rushed, abbreviated and oblique posts are doing more harm than good. You're coming over like an unreconstructed tinfoil-hat CTer. If you'll heed my advice, either take the time to make a coherent and focussed point or argument, or don't post in the thread.

Rolfe.
 
I don't know what to make of it. Robert Black often posts excerpts from his articles, without any more comment but "excellent" or something like that. The magazine is hard to fathom. On one hand there are links to ordinary legal articles, and advertisements from legit sources aimed at lawyers. On the other hand, the editor prints a helluva lot of CT material about Lockerbie.

Did you see this link?
http://www.firmmagazine.com/news/20...te_Crown_Office_blacklisting_of_The_Firm.html

Something mildly odd going on there.

Rolfe.

I think the Firm Magazine and it's editors have been poking their noses into areas that are generally seen as 'off limits' when dealing with those working in the same profession as they are.

Last summer The Firm Magazine was carrying reports indicating that Lothian and Borders Police Criminal Investigation Department were examining claims by MSP Christine Grahame relating to the conduct of Crown Agent Norman McFadyen in the Lockerbie case. Whether this was related to Mr McFadyen's conduct during the first trial at Zeist or specifically to the lengthy, and persistantly stalled, 2nd appeal of the 'convicted' Lockerbie bomber Al-Megrahi, or indeed both, is unclear.

It had been reported by the Herald newspaper in Scotland that during the trial at Zeist one of the leading members of the prosecution team and now Crown Agent, Mr McFadyen, had viewed evidence in the possession of the US government and the CIA, and had signed a non-disclosure agreement on June 1, 2000, thus withholding known evidence from the court or the defence team. This was not the first occasion that the representative to the Crown had been accused of such impropriety.

In 2005, the political commentator and activist Mark Thomas wrote, "On 12 October 2005, a court began hearing the appeals of two Scottish men, Billy Allison and Steven Johnston, who were convicted of the murder of Andrew Forsyth in a frenzied attack in November 1995. During the trial the jury was told that "to bring home a conviction against Steven Johnston, the deceased would require to have died on Friday 3 November".

Forsyth's body was found on 9 November, and in 1996 Johnston was banged up for life for the killing. So was Allison.

However, evidence has come to light that Forsyth did not die on 3 November 1995. The Scottish Criminal Cases Review Commission found four witness statements by people who claimed they had seen Forsyth alive days after the date police said he had died. This is crucial. If Forsyth was alive after that date, why did the court convict Johnston of killing him?"

The eyewitnesses who gave statements included a newsagent, who claimed Forsyth came into his shop for a paper on 4 November. Another man saw Forsyth drinking in a bar on 8 November, five days after he is supposed to have died."

Crucially, the police did not disclose these statements to the defence team. Lord Fraser of Carmyllie, the former Lord Advocate, said that "at best this is unacceptable bumbling incompetence, and at its worst . . . it may be criminal".

Equally alarming is that the Scottish Crown Office knew the police had withheld the crucial witness statements back in February 1997.

Having previously claimed that "all statements taken by the police in this case" had been handed to the Procurator Fiscal, Deputy Crown Agent Norman McFadyen wrote on 3 February 1997: "It is now clear that the information which I had previously conveyed to you in my letter . . . was inaccurate and misleading in relation to the retention of the results of the enquiries of the police and the taking of statements."

It would seem that together with many of the prosecution teams discredited and contradictory witnesses presented at Zeist, and Lord Frasers's comments regarding the previous conduct of the deputy crown agent, were taken so seriously that promotion for Deputy McFadyen was the reward for such actions. It is little wonder that The Firm magazine subsequently reported that a 'veil of secrecy' had been thrown over the current investigation into the allegation made by Ms Grahame's on the Crown agents conduct in the Lockerbie case.

http://www.firmmagazine.com/news/1633/Police_%22News_Managers%22_throw_veil_of_secrecy_over_McFadyen_C.I.D._investigation.html

http://www.heraldscotland.com/revealed-cia-offered-2m-to-lockerbie-witness-and-brother-1.866400
 
Who are they (the murdering IRA scumbags in New York)? What were they convicted of and what actions have the Scottish and/or British government done to attempt to have them extradited?

http://www.irishcentral.com/news/Wanted-IRA-man-traced-to-quiet-US-home-in-New-Jersey-79884747.html


The list goes on and on.New York, Boston San francisco.. And if you want to know how the extradition treaty between the UK and The US works, I suggest you google Gary Mackinnon. Unfortunately he can't get a UK judge to claim his hacking was a "political offense", unlike Brian Pearson, whose bombing of an RUC police station was declared as such by Manhattan judge Philip T Williams. Yeah, thanks Philip.
 
Two answers.
  1. I don't believe in huge NWO illuminati conspiracies, I have never seen credible evidence of one.
  2. And this one applies a bit even if there isn't a gigantic co-ordinated conspiracy. What is Megrahi doing alive? If he was dead the whole thing would disappear apart from this thread and a few obsessive journalists. He's got terminal cancer and is living in a totalitarian state which has done far worse things than bump off an inconvenient citizen.


I think Caustic Logic needs a little lie-down. ;)

I don't think anyone is seriously proposing a huge NWO illuminati conspiracy. However, international politics is international politics. When heads of state have a summit meeting, they're not doing it for the sake of a weekend junket. They're doing it to hammer out a common modus vivendi and agree on a co-ordinated approach to certain issues. And the same thing happens in private too, without the need for these pesky minutes.

The apparent start of all this is a telephone conversation between Bush and Thatcher in mid-March 1989. The thrust of this was that the then hot pursuit of the PFLP-GC for the bombing by the Lockerbie investigation wasn't politically acceptable, and that politicians were to stop encouraging press reports that these were the culprits and they would soon be arrested.

Two heads of state agree to take a common, mutually beneficial line on a particular topic. Is that a huge illuminati conspiracy? I don't think so.

Fast forward 20 years. Devolution happened, and now executive responsibility for the incident lies with the Scottish government, which didn't exist at the time of the incident, but is now vested in a political party which doesn't take dictation from Westminster. Does it become a huge iluminati conspiracy if the Westminster government decides to share with the Scottish government the compelling international realpolitik reasons for persisting in this line, and gets them on board?

I'm not saying this is what happened, but I don't think it's tinfoil-hat unlikely per se.

As far as Libyan involvement goes, I'm not clear that this row is impacting on them at all. Gadaffi is probably quite enjoying the discomfiture being exhibited by the West over Megrahi's survival time. And possibly boasting about Libya's superior medical standards. It's a nine-day wonder, in a way. And when it all blows over, his current, advantageous status quo is still in place.

Rolfe.
 
I think the Firm Magazine and it's editors have been poking their noses into areas that are generally seen as 'off limits' when dealing with those working in the same profession as they are.


Sigh. Bent cops and bent prosecutors. And wondering if a legal magazine is promulgating CT conspiracies. What a great country! Sounds exactly like the set-up you need if you require a conviction brought against somebody on circumstantial, inferential and made-up evidence.

Which is what was done, of course. Maybe Kenny is just covering up for his mates. He is a lawyer after all.

Rolfe.
 
Does it become a huge iluminati conspiracy if the Westminster government decides to share with the Scottish government the compelling international realpolitik reasons for persisting in this line, and gets them on board?

I'm not saying this is what happened, but I don't think it's tinfoil-hat unlikely per se.

It's not a conspiracy, I just think it's unnecessary, in my opinion the Scottish Government has it's own, very good reasons for not wanting further investigation of Megrahi's trial, so you don't need to add new ones.

As far as Libyan involvement goes, I'm not clear that this row is impacting on them at all. Gadaffi is probably quite enjoying the discomfiture being exhibited by the West over Megrahi's survival time. And possibly boasting about Libya's superior medical standards. It's a nine-day wonder, in a way. And when it all blows over, his current, advantageous status quo is still in place.

I agree with this, it just suggests to me that Libya's co-operation has been limited to things they absolutely had to do to get back in the international playpen.
 
[...]As far as Libyan involvement goes, I'm not clear that this row is impacting on them at all. Gadaffi is probably quite enjoying the discomfiture being exhibited by the West over Megrahi's survival time. And possibly boasting about Libya's superior medical standards. It's a nine-day wonder, in a way. And when it all blows over, his current, advantageous status quo is still in place.

Rolfe.

I have to say I agree with this and would echo Guybrush above, in that Libya through their payment of 'compensation' and reintroduction into the international community, was the primary objective and are probably sitting back enjoying the sight of the UK, US and Scottish governments squirming any time his release and appeal are mentioned.

Reading through the Herald's article about the timeline leading upto the Compassionate Release, and these final few sentences at the end of the article are very interesting indeed.

The Herald said:
Jim Swire, whose daughter died in the Lockerbie bombing, said on Megrahi’s release that he would continue with the appeal on his behalf, if possible.

However, it is unlikely the appeal could move forward while Megrahi is still alive. The SCCRC would be unlikely to agree that it was in the interests of justice to proceed, when Megrahi gave up his chance to prove his innocence.

It is thought that relatives of those who died in the bombing would be well placed to take the appeal forward once Megrahi dies.

I thought this possiblity had been completely ruled out after Megrahi had droped the appeal himself. Perhaps not it seems.

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home-news/history-of-controversial-megrahi-release-1.1043001
 
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I missed the paperboy this morning (lazy brat, school holidays) and I haven't taken the trouble to look at the online version. Something to read with the evening meal. :)

I went to M&S at lunchtime and they had a newspaper display - all English papers for some bizarre reason. I see it's the Daily Fail trumpeting that MacAskill "lied" about the three-month prognosis, because he remarked that the prognosis was based on his then circumstances, and a change in circumstances (such as going home to his family and getting more chemo) might alter matters. Which was of course something discussed openly last August.

It was the Times that had the front-page spread about Kochler's report, saying that MacAskill was being accused of putting pressure on Megrahi to withdraw his appeal. Fine. If Kenny is going to get in hot water, I want it to be for something he actually did, or at least might have done. The more this becomes about the abandoned appeal, the better.

Buncrana said:
I thought this possiblity had been completely ruled out after Megrahi had droped the appeal himself. Perhaps not it seems.


There are ways of looking again at convictions after the death of the person convicted. Whether that's the best way, I don't know, but any way that gets it to court would be good. I fear there will be a great deal of obstructionism though.

Rolfe.
 
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It's not a conspiracy, I just think it's unnecessary, in my opinion the Scottish Government has it's own, very good reasons for not wanting further investigation of Megrahi's trial, so you don't need to add new ones.


You may well be right, it's probably the most parsimonious explanation. I suppose I had hoped for better. The idea that lawyers would be interested in cleaning out that Augean stables is probably a bit fanciful though, no matter which political party they belong to.

I agree with this, it just suggests to me that Libya's co-operation has been limited to things they absolutely had to do to get back in the international playpen.


I think so too. However, I still think that making sure Megrahi discontinued his appeal might have been one of those things. The process of "normalisation" of Libya is still ongoing. Quietly smothering the guy who took the blame and served eight years for it, maybe not so much.

Rolfe.
 
"He knows nothing about the bombing"? How can you be sure about that?


I think CL has become a little over-excited....

If you just want to post blind opinion on the internet, then skip this post. If you want to find out a bit about it, read on.

This question is much he same as asking how can we be sure Megrahi wasn't involved in the plot to bomb the airliner, which is to say guilty as charged, because he was only ever found guilty of being mixed up in it, not planting the actual bomb. So, how do we know he wasn't mixed up in it?

The main reason is that the central plank of the case was that the bomb suitcase was smuggled on to flight KM180 leaving Malta on the morning of 21st December. This put Megrahi right in the frame because he was passing through that airport at that time, catching a different flight, and he was quite obviously up to something covert.

You'd think a small provincial airport might have rather lax security, but no. There was a tight system of bag checking and counting. Fifty-five bags went on that plane, each attached to a passenger. They were counted three times, and it always tallied. All the luggage was picked up by its owners at their destinations as expected. All the passengers were extensively investigated for terrorist connections and came up clean.

The investigators tried everything they could think of to break this evidence. Baggage handlers' private phone lines were tapped, you name it. All to no avail. In addition, in the years before the case came to court, Air Malta was successful in (I think) three civil actions against media organisations who published the allegation that the bomb had gone on at Malta. At the actual trial, the prosecution could present no loophole at all by which that bag could have got on board.

So how come Megrahi was convicted? Because of some weird :rule10 with the baggage records at Frankfurt, that plane's destination. These records all mysteriously vanished almost immediately after the disaster. This was all the more surprising because Frankfurt was on high alert for exactly this occurrence - one warning about a suitcase with a bomb disguised as a radio-cassette player, and a separate one about a plot to bomb a Pan Am flight from Frankfurt to New York. Requests from the Scottish police for Frankfurt baggage records got the runaround - lost, destroyed, don't exist.

Then, eight months after the disaster, the Germans suddenly produced a very limited extract from the records - a loading record for the Frankfurt/Heathrow feeder flight PA103A. They said they'd had it since February, after an IT technician handed it in, but they never explained either why they sat on it for so long, or what happened to the original records. The documentation was subject to interpretation, because flight of origin had to be inferred from time and place of entry to the system, but analysis showed a bag from KM180 being transferred to PA103A. Or rather, a bag probably from KM180.

However, the inference wasn't watertight. A mistake in coding the baggage into the system or a coder forgetting to make a written entry, could give the impression of a piece of luggage coming from somewhere it didn't. It was accepted that such mistakes occasionally occurred at Frankfurt. Case closed, you'd think.

But no. The judges decided that although mistakes happened at Frankfurt, in such a huge operation, there was no evidence that any such mistake had happened in relation to the coding of the Malta luggage. It was quite difficult to show this of course, because most of the records were missing so a lot of assumptions were being made. On balance, they decided, there was no mistake, and the record really showed a bag from Malta. Therefore that blew a complete hole in the evidence from Malta that nobody had been able to shake, and the bomb had indeed been introduced there.

Yo may think I'm misreporting this, but I'm not. This is exactly what the judges decided. And this is where it gets interesting. One of the reasons given for the decision was that this interpretation was made more likely by the fact that Megrahi was at Malta when the plane took off, and there was other evidence against him.

That other evidence was principally that of Tony Gauci, a Maltese shopkeeper who sold the clothes packed round the bomb in the suitcase, a short while before the disaster. The purchase was made in a memorable, conspicuous manner (which is a bit odd in itself) and Tony remembered the sale. The problem was he remembered the items sold a lot better than the purchaser, or rather he remembered the purchaser's size and build, but not really his face. The initial description he gave was of someone taller, heavier built and older than Megrahi - complete with estimated chest, waist and collar sizes. His job was selling clothes, after all. In addition, enquiry into the date of this sale narrowed it down to two probable dates. By far the most likely for several reasons was 23rd November, but if you tortured the facts a bit you could possibly make a fit for 7th December.

The police, and then the judges, duly proceeded to torture the facts, and decided the date was 7th December. Which was handy, because Megrahi was on Malta on 7th December (he actually travelled there frequently). He was not there on 23rd November. When asked why they had preferred the December date, one of the detectives later said, really because Megrahi was there that day.

The holy grail was to get Tony to identify Megrahi as the purchaser of the clothes, but that proved an uphill struggle. There are lengthy take-downs of Tony's identification evidence produced by experts, but actually he never positively identified him. He said several times that Megrahi resembled the purchaser, but that he was too young.

The judges decided that even though Tony was uncertain, the purchaser was Megrahi - because he'd been on Malta the day of the purchase, and he'd been at the airport at the time the bomb bag went on KM180.

If you think I'm distorting this, go and read the court judgements. It's as I say. It's text-book circular reasoning.

The clothes purchase was the deciding factor for the court. Just being at an airport without having been seen to do anything at all out of the ordinary (and certainly not go air-side), wouldn't have been sufficient evidence to convict Megrahi, even if the nonsense of the baggage records was allowed to stand. However, if he had bought the clothes packed round the bomb - gotcha.

The Mata baggage records could never be made to show room for an unaccompanied bag, no matter how you tortured them. The balance of probabilities was obviously towards the "unlikely" coding mistake at Frankfurt rather than overt magic at Malta. When the appeal got started last year Tony Gauci's "identification" evidence was unravelling faster than a ball of wool in the paws of a kitten. What's left? Megrahi wasn't present when the bomb went into the baggage system, and didn't buy the clothes. Anything else that was brought up was beyond tenuous, in the realms of "six degrees of separation".

And just to complete the picture, pretty good evidence was presented to the court of a suitcase looking very like the bomb suitcase going into the relevant baggage container at Heathrow, before the feeder flight from Frankfurt had even landed. The judges managed to handwave that evidence away by similar logical back-flip handstands.

Why a group of Law Lords chose to take that line, I have no idea. In their own words....

We are aware that in relation to certain aspects of the case there are a number of uncertainties and qualifications. We are also aware that there is a danger that by selecting parts of the evidence which seem to fit together and ignoring parts which might not fit, it is possible to read into a mass of conflicting evidence a pattern or conclusion which is not really justified.


Hello, guys?

So no, I can't prove Megrahi had nothing to do with it. I simply see no credible evidence that he had. At the same time I see considerably more evidence that a group of Palestinian terrorists had the means, motive and opportunity to attack that airliner, and considerably more evidence indicating that the route by which the bomb was introduced was via Heathrow airport. Hence, I think Caustic Logic's statement is bang on the nail.

Rolfe.
 
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"He knows nothing about the bombing"? How can you be sure about that?

To be perfectly frank, I'm not 100% sure of that. But I am, personally, about 99% sure, and that's from examining the evidence against him and how it fails to hold up under scrutiny. I do feel I've got better reason to say innocent than the vast majority have to say guilty.

I apologize for not re-explaining all of that here, but the information is around. Feel free to question it where it's been discussed, or else accept that those who HAVE looked at it consider the evidence suspect.

Also sorry for wrecking the discussion this morning. I've been having to work harder at work and home, and getting stretched a little thin, especially at the end of my day. I'm not able to read and absorb the large amount of talk these days, here or elsewhere, let alone comment widely and brilliantly. I understand I was getting incoherent and talking about the Illuminati or something. So until my schedule lets up and I've got enough energy to read up and come up with proper multi-paragraph posts with full sentences and that account for the same from others, I'll be taking a break from commenting here.

ETA: AltF4, I refer to Rolfe's post above in case you skipped it. It's worth a read and exactly on the level with little or no supposition and can be trusted or, if you must, double-checked.
 
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Does that kind of explain it in an acceptable number of words? If so, I should maybe save the link.

I was commenting in the thread about the death of Ian Tomlinson earlier, and I can't help marvel at the comparison. That case was dropped because of insufficient evidence, really. The first post mortem was done by an incompetent pathologist, who didn't know it was a possible assault charge and didn't spot the signs of death from internal bleeding due to trauma. Worse, he didn't preserve certain vital evidence, fluid he found in the abdomen.

Only later, after the video clip of the cop knocking him to the ground surfaced, was a second post mortem done. That pathologist diagnosed internal bleeding due to trauma, but needed the fluid to back up his diagnosis. It wasn't available. A third pathologist did a third examination, and came to the same conclusion. Still no fluid though. And no photos I gather. Worse, although the first pathologist had said the fluid was blood in his first report, he changed his mind later, to a description that would have fitted his heart failure idea. He's currently up in front of the GMC on a string of unrelated incompetence charges though.

So, the first guy is unquestionably incompetent. The two competent guys agree the death was trauma. And the history of the man getting up from where he'd fallen and collapsing again round the corner is absolutely classic for internal trauma.

But the evidence was thrown away. The cop is entitled to a defence. Any competent barrister would walk all over that case. And the court has to go by the law. The inference that the fluid was blood isn't enough. So the CPU has decided to drop the case.

Why did they even take Megrahi to court in the first place? It's beyond ridiculous. The inference upon inference that he was convicted on is far far weaker than the evidence against this cop, and yet that isn't good enough to prosecute.

Guilt in a murder case has to be beyond reasonable doubt. That's a high bar to clear. On the balance of probabilities isn't good enough for a criminal conviction. Megrahi isn't even guilty on the balance of probabilities. On the contrary, the balance of probabilities weighs heavily towards him being innocent. You can't declare someone guilty on that basis.

The burden of proof is on the prosecution. Proving Megrahi didn't do it is a big ask. Frankly, proving I didn't do it would be a big ask, as I was a lot closer than Megrahi was to Heathrow airport that day. However, I actually think it's close. If one could figure a bit more about that orphan luggage tray in the Frankfurt baggage system, and identify a probable explanation for its appearance rather than just vague "coding mistake", that would be it.

But it's almost impossible to do - because the entire set of baggage records for that day at Frankfurt airport disappeared competely, right in front of the noses of the cops, cops who were on double-alert for exactly this sort of attack, and knew within a couple of hours that the flight involved had in one sense "started" from Frankfurt. And this was simply reported as a fact. Never apologise, never explain. And the higher echelons of the UK and US arms of the investigation never said a word about it.

What's that all about? I think I need a lie down now.

Rolfe.
 

The article you linked to says the man in question is "alleged" to have been involved in the murder of Captain Nairac, the accusation in that same article comes from the "murder gang". The UK is not asking for the arrest or extradition of Patrick Maquire so what connection does this have to Megrahi?

The list goes on and on.New York, Boston San francisco.

Ok, please go on and on with a list of arrested/convicted IRA members being held in prisons in New York, Boston and San Franciso that the Scottish and/or British government wants back.

And if you want to know how the extradition treaty between the UK and The US works, I suggest you google Gary Mackinnon.

Talk about moving the goal post. Right or wrong, Mackinnon is not "IRA scum". Try again.
 
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I'm disappointed. When I saw that Alt+F4 had posted, I was hoping for some comment on my post about the difficulties with the evidence in the Zeist conviction. Maybe I'm naive, but it seems to me the fact that a conviction was railroaded in a show trial is a teeny bit more important than tit-for-tat bickering about US support for Irish terrorist acts against England, or the asymmetrical extradition treaty.

I'm loathe to request a thread split to get rid of the IRA side-track, but is nobody interested in commenting on the extraordinary attitude of the Zeist judges to the evidence?

Rolfe.
 
Your post #352 is an outstanding summation of the case against Megrahi Rolfe! It would indeed be interesting to see some of the responses, particulary from the US based posters, on this forum.

And your post hasn't even touched upon much of the other 'evidence' and 'witnesses' that were eventually presented at Court Zeist.
 
Good on MacAskill telling the stupid US senators to stick it where the sun dont shine. You would think that after their debacle with Gorgeous George they would think twice about having another Scottish MP up in front of them. Hopefully Jack Straw will do the same.
 
Your post #352 is an outstanding summation of the case against Megrahi Rolfe! It would indeed be interesting to see some of the responses, particulary from the US based posters, on this forum.

And your post hasn't even touched upon much of the other 'evidence' and 'witnesses' that were eventually presented at Court Zeist.


Well, I was trying to keep it as pared down as possible. There are so many striking anomalies in that trial, it's difficult to see the wood for the trees sometimes.

I didn't mention the fortune paid to Tony Gauci for his non-identification, because we went into that earlier. Honestly - he says "He's not the man, but he looks a little bit like him," and they convict the guy and pay the witnesses $3 million. Hello, again?

I didn't mention the timer fragment or the radio manual, because these never linked to Megrahi in the first place. All they were held to show was that it had been a Libyan operation, not a Syrian/Palestinian one. The problems with that have been done to death elsewhere. (Both pieces of evidence show very serious signs of having been fabricated, but even if they weren't, the possibility that a Syrian/Palestinian group had acquired items of Libyan origin isn't exactly remote.) So all you can do with that is say, well, we think it was a Libyan operation, and Megrahi was a Libyan security agent. Hello, once more.

I didn't mention Giaka either, because we covered that before too, but I think he's crucial. I don't think the case would have got anywhere near the court without Giaka's evidence being in the indictment. It was said before the trial that the US prosecutors had an enormous amount of detail about every aspect of the plot - where and when the bomb was made, by whom, how it was smuggled to the airport and so on. Actually, that was a pretty big exaggeration even if Giaka had been telling the truth.

But he wasn't telling the truth, he had been bribed before the trial to make up an amazing fairy-story to implicate both Megrahi and Fhimah. The CIA knew perfectly well he was making stuff up for money but they went to court on it anyway. That backfired, it all came out in court, and Giaka's evidence was dismissed.

The fact that Megrahi was convicted on the remaining tenuous and inferential evidence is a shocking indictment of Scottish justice, and if anyone wants to bash Scotland, for goodness sake bash it on that account, because that's justified. However, I think the sequence of events has to be appreciated, because it makes it possible to understand why it happened.

Megrahi and Fhimah were indicted in about 1991 or 1992, after Giaka started his creative writing exercise. Gadaffi refused to allow them to be extradited, and there was stalemate for about eight years. During that time, everybody was being told about the great strength of the prosecution case, and the inevitability of a conviction if it could only come to court. That was the basis on which the peculiar Camp Zeist trial was organised - a Scottish court sitting in a foreign country without a jury.

In the course of the trial, the main prosecution witness is thrown out as a lying fantasist. Here we are, a three-ring circus set up to convict these terrorists we've all been told have so much evidence against them, and about 90% of the evidence just went down the toilet. There was no rescuing the case against Fhimah, because that was entirely based on Giaka's allegations. There was, however, this skeleton-structure of coincidences remaining against Megrahi. It shouldn't have been enough to give him a parking ticket. But I think the judges were simply horrified at the prospect of ten years worth of hoopla culminating in this huge circus, leading to no convictions. I wonder also if there was some very unjudicial feeling that surely he must have done it or we wouldn't be here - so they tortured the evidence to breaking point and beyond, and brought in a conviction.

The first appeal went much the same way. The appeal judges expressed some very serious doubts about a lot of the reasoning. They made enquiries about the possibility of ordering a re-trial, which is what would almost certainly have happened if it had been a normal case in Scotland. However, that was impossible due to the whole Camp Zeist set-up and so on. In the end they fell back on a very narrow view of the situation, in which they examined every inference made by the original judges, and in every material instance simply said, the judges were entitled to take that view and it's not for us to second-guess them. Hello, once more. You're an appeal court, for God's sake!

I don't know what sort of a person Abdelbaset al-Megrahi is. Maybe I wouldn't like him at all if I ever met him. Maybe he was a ruthless Libyan security operative, mixed up in God alone knows what. However, that's no justification for bringing in a conviction against someone for something he almost certainly didn't do. "Well, you deserve it anyway, you must have done something," isn't a valid approach after the age of about twelve.

Rolfe.
 
Good on MacAskill telling the stupid US senators to stick it where the sun dont shine. You would think that after their debacle with Gorgeous George they would think twice about having another Scottish MP up in front of them. Hopefully Jack Straw will do the same.


It's kind of funny really. (Funny-ha-ha, I mean.) There was a letter in the Herald yesterday saying that Salmond and MacAskill must be having a bit of trouble figuring out how to say "get stuffed" as politely as possible. I don't think that actual phrase was used, but the message was fairly clear.

Now all we're getting is a load of guff from Labour and the Tories saying MacAskill is running scared and so on. But the actual man in the street seems to be pretty happy our politicians aren't simply rolling over when Obama says, "Here, boy!"

The person to ask about the whole BP/PTA thing is Tony Blair. He did the deal. We saw it on TV for God's sake! So guess who the USA has decided not to invite to appear?

Rolfe.
 

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