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100 Reasons Why Evolution Is Stupid (Part 1 of 11)

David Henson said:
Still waiting for an answer.
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Translation: I got a bunch of answers that said the same thing but...
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Mojo said:
Just in case nobody has pointed this out yet, at that point there wouldn't have been any matter, just energy. Matter only started to condense from the energy (E=MC2, remember?) as the universe expanded and cooled.
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Other than the 1 "I don't know" answer this is the closest thing yet to having addressed one of the points in the OP.

13 pages it took. Where in the hell have you been?!

Energy. But. Dr. Hovind says that the Big Bang Theory started out at 2 trillion miles across and was reduced to nothing. Is energy nothing? Was energy thought originally to have taken up 2 trillion miles?

When you say that matter began to condense from enery AS the universe started to cool then - what? The universe consisted of nothing but energy, then cooled, producing matter. . . where did the energy come from?

What exactly is energy?
 
RoboTimbo said:
Is the BBT relevant to the OP?
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DH brings up Hovnid's "what exploded" question in his post, as well as some points on the changes in the size of the universe before it expanded. I'm assuming this is his question, even though it was never actually stated. Discussion of the BBT doesn't belong in an evolution thread, but it was still addressed multiple times and DH refuses to listen to the explanations.

There was also some nonsense paragraph on the 'slippery' meaning of evolution, but it was actually a question, but was addressed regardless.
 
David Henson said:
Space and time exploded?!

That is your answer?!

What exactly are space and time and how did these things explode? Or expand is what I heard.
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Relevance to evolution?

What exactly are you trying to accomplish in this thread? You start out with 2 completely unconnected 'points' (quotes, really). Neither one of which come remotely close to explaining why you feel evolution is 'stupid.' You refuse to answer questions specific to evolution because you want answers to your word salad about the BBT. Then you turn around and answer a couple of them, showing your complete lack of knowledge of what the theory of evolution actually states. When called out on this you either a.) throw out more ridiculous nonsense b.) say you don't care about science c.) say science is a religion or d.) go back to not answering because you didn't get an answer about BBT that agrees with what you're already thinking.

If you want to discuss theoretical physics, start a thread on theoretical physics.
 
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David Henson said:
A bump on the head of a fish is an indication that it "evolved," a moth's camoflauge becomes a case for evolution so it must be true.
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I don't know anything about the Bible, and really don't want to know. I find it boring. However, I do know that the Bible says we must all smear ourselves with feces and make human sacrifices. Therefore, the Bible is stupid.
 
David Henson said:
I'm not a Christian.



Ahhhh! Now I see! Ben Stein was right! If you want to 'prove' evolution just make everyone agree with you. If you want published, tenure, funding you have to agree with everything they say. Spoon feed it to the masses through public schools and the media and crush all dissent.

Where did you guys get that model from? Christendom in the dark ages?



If you had raised two simple points on a criticism of the Bible like I had in the OP I would have had an answer for you in the first page of responses and there isn't a Christian alive who could demonstrate, with any accuracy, that I was wrong. But if they could I would accept my error.
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David, do you believe that Jesus Christ was the son of God? Do you believe that he had divine knowledge, ie, communicated with God and had a purpose here on earth dictated by God? Just curious.

I don't know why I am replying, this thread is a farce. David is replying to posts I have already half forgotten and his replies in no way directly address the points being made. If it were not for the fact that useful information often spills out of other replies, I wouldn't bother to follow at all.

David, I don't fully understand your replies. They are very word-salady. I would respond to your responses but I'm not sure what you are trying to say.

The only thing that I find concrete enough so far is your statement that I don't believe science can be wrong.

Not only do I believe that science can be wrong, I hunger for those days where somebody overturns the applecart and I can read about some sharp advance in our knowledge that has come about because researchers have proved that something we believe is wrong. Those are exciting bits of news - finding out what is wrong is most often the point where our knowledge in some field takes a quantum leap forward.

So your statement is the exact opposite of reality. Try again - revise your own understanding, for once, you might like it. Really, David - its fun to question everything and revise your opinion as new information comes in. Try it. Theres no shame in admitting that your opinion is incomplete and allowing your worldview to evolve over time. You know, like we have done with Big Bang Expansion cosmology.
 
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Also, I hope you will somehow "skim ahead" and read this. Your OP is about evolution. Just about every reply has addressed evolution, except for those poor saps who have bravely responded to your requests about the Big Bang Expansion in hopes that you will drop it and stick to your OP. For their sake, and for the sake of a thread in which I have invested valuable time, please begin to stick to your OP and start a new thread about cosmology.

15 further pages of you responding sideways to the great majority of replies will get us less then nowhere.
 
Hokulele said:
The Big Bang is an expansion of space-time, not an explosion.
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So Big Bang only in name. Curious.

Hokulele said:
As such, there doesn't have to be any matter to explode. This shows the inherent problem with trying to use words to describe advanced physical models rather than equations.
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No words can describe it properly? That would explain why 15 pages of arguing about dogs preceeded any answer . . . :mad:

Hokulele said:
Secondly, the Big Bang is a model. As such, we know it doesn't reflect reality perfectly accurately.
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YA THINK?!

Hokulele said:
However, it does give us a tool to make phenomenally accurate predictions about portions of reality, and as such is incredibly useful. Other tools and models can (and hopefully, will) get us closer to an explanation of what happened at t=0.
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Absolutely unbelievable!
 
Cainkane1 said:
Or something absurd like blowing on a pile of dust and voila man is created.
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I will allow this as a brief aside. I don't want to bring God into the thread, but can you tell me what makes up soil and what makes up human beings? And how that differs. Just as an aside.
 
Marduk said:
[qimg]http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a178/belmarduk/fossil-hominid-skulls-1.jpg[/qimg]
While I have your attention David, 1 question
which of the above skulls represent the Human being that God created in a garden and how do you explain the others ?
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The human one. This is a picture of animal skulls and human skulls, no?

What are you reading into it?
 
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