• Security incident: ISF was recently accessed by intruders. Please change your password, and change it anywhere else you used it. Read more

Merged Israel Attacks Palestinian Aid Flotilla, According To Reports

Status
Not open for further replies.
After Israel being in control of the message for the last few days the real story is beginning to trickle out as activists are released. Follow the link for an interview with former US ambassador to Gaza who was on board one of the ships:

Witnesses tell of Gaza raid
 
Ban Ki-Moon, secretary general of the UN, condemns it.

Words mean nothing. Ban Ki-Moon impotent. Weapon that kill is real power and mean something. American Jews control world superpower. This mean something solid. American Jews mean Israel prevail and get away with killing people on aid ship and persecute inferior Palestinians. Like Cast Lead we tell Western media to forget soon.
 
They tore him to pieces and his arm was in a sling. They stitched him back together then?
He never said he was torn to pieces, he was speaking about someone else ahead of him.
 
There are also claims the IDF uses the bodies of Palestinian children. It's a well-oiled propaganda machine to cull the useful idiots.

using a stupid strawman argument to attempt to attack a very valid argument, is pretty pathetic. Oh....wait. Hi Skeptic.
 
After Israel being in control of the message for the last few days the real story is beginning to trickle out as activists are released.

What in God's name makes you think the "activists" -- that is, Hamas supporters -- are telling the truth? Within half an hour of the boarding they were already caught in two glaring lies -- claiming "19 dead" (less than half) and that Seih Raad Salaah, an Israeli-Arab leader, was killed or injured (he was neither).

But then again, I'm speaking with someone who thinks Hamas is ready to recognize Israel...
 
are you suggesting people have no right to defend themselves against an illegal boarding?
It was an illegal boarding? Because Thunder, international law expert, says so? :rolleyes:

But hey, I encourage you to "defend" yourself from an illegal boarding sometime Thunder. You really should get on the next boat.
 
Except the 50 or so involved in attacking the boarders.

Next post from Parky: complaining that Israel is harshly dealing with those 50 involved.

Just like he gloats about how the pathetic soldiers were attacked and shed tears that they shot back.

You can't win with some people.
 
My, what a lot of sound and fury in this thread. I will presume that a state of belligerency exists between Gaza/Hamas and Israel, which has not been resolved via peace treaty. Sort of like the cease fire between the Koreas, at best. So, a blockade is what is underway, between two belligerents, one denying the other sea commerce except for restricted humanitarian stuff, per the UN articles on such things, custom, rules of war, etcetera.

It is a blockade in fact, made moreso by its enforecment.

Running a blockade is a risky proposition. A well applied blockade is difficult and dangerous to run.

The five ship captains who chose the more patient method, get inspected "over htere" and proceed, will do as well as the legitimate merchants who were dealing with the NATO/WEU/UN embargo in the Adriatic 1993-1996.

The group of numbnuts who decided to try otherwise got precisely what they deserved, and as I read this, precisely what their leadership desired.

Aside: You will note that the Serbs, to include the fun and games during the Lido II incident, were smarter than this particular group of activists.

Or were they?

The Serbs didn't have friendly media supporting them, and they didn't have Twitter, nor twits who bought their line of rubbish and thuggery.

This group did. This play was political, as I see it, and the fracas was deliberately provoked with the intent of shooting a few rounds in the information/propaganda war.

*shrugs*

Another day of fun in the the Eastern Med. Twenty or so years ago, it was the Lebanese killing one another off with mind numbing regularity, now the Pals and Israelis have chosen to take center stage, and some other clowns want to get into the act.

So be it, these folks are now part of the act. This stage play include shootings by guns that aren't loaded with blanks.

DR
Honestly they weren't worth answering. The captains of the ships were repeatedly told that they'd be stopped if they tried to run the blockage, they were given the option of having their cargos checked and delivered. They chose to continue knowing it would create a confrontation.

Five of the ships boarded didn't resist and nothing happened on them other than that they were redirected to the port they had previously been told to go to. The Israelis have said that they'll check the cargo and see that it's delivered.

The crew of one ship resisted, attacking the boarders as they come on board, taking their weapons off them, throwing them off the top deck to the lower one, and using the taken handguns, a rifle that was onboard, slingshots loaded with marbles, knives, stun grenades, firebombs, and pipes against them.

Since the activists never gave the Israelis the chance to do anything before attacking them, does it matter if they knew that they were armed with Paintball rifles or not?

Should the Israelis stood there and done nothing when faced with that sort of attack from supposed "peace" activists?

I'd note here that US boarding parties in the Gulf and off Somalia are authorised to use deadly force if attacked while boarding, and have done so when required, even killing people who have resisted boarding. Why are Israeli forces to be denyed the same right to self defence when they conduct boarding operations during a blockade against a state they are at war with?
 
So the contents of the 'weapon cache' onboard is the contents of me and my next door neighbor's collective garage toolboxes and kitchen droors.

Why didn't they post some pictures of the deck-chairs. Those are terrifyingly dangerous terrorist weapons.
Are you really under the delusion that Israel is claiming those were weapons being sent to Hamas?

Are you capable of reading anything with comprehension?

Those were the weapons used to attack the Israeli soldiers.
 
But hey, I encourage you to "defend" yourself from an illegal boarding sometime Thunder. You really should get on the next boat.

careful. you're getting dangerously close to encouraging me to engage in self-destructive behavior.
 
Just look at these anti-semitic terrorist supporters:
And look, it's the favorite Jewish sect of anti-semites everywhere!

Hey Danmotron, this is where I have to ask you if you think the Holocaust happened. Did it?
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

ISF - Join now!

Every member here is approved by hand. No bots, no spam, just people who care about evidence and honest debate.

Membership is free!

Create your free account

Back
Top Bottom