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Merged David Chandler (ae911) sez "WTC7 was in free fall part of the time"

Yes DC, but as you have said, Cutters make loud noises, you don't need math or physics to explain that. If you want math and physics, go over to the "debate" Mackey is having with Major Tom, although even there, it has taken a turn for the rhetoric.

TAM:)
 
Yes DC, but as you have said, Cutters make loud noises, you don't need math or physics to explain that. If you want math and physics, go over to the "debate" Mackey is having with Major Tom, although even there, it has taken a turn for the rhetoric.

TAM:)

oh dear, you debunkers also act like a bunch of guys of the same religion, i atack one, i get all of you on my arse :D

still after your post, the fields of Mathematics and Physics are still extremly relevant. i mean you just cannot claim those fields are not quite relevant.
c'mon.
 
you know, sometimes also Debunkers themself or their followers (Parrots) claim stupid stuff. dont get pissed at me for pointing it out.
 
here you claimed Mathematics and Physics are not relevant to this debate, i say yes they are very relevant in this debate.

I agree, they are extremely relevant. In any case, Chandler's qualifications are not relevant to discussion of the content of his video.

That content, sadly, is same ****, different day. The back-and-forth video approach actually does a very good job of showing how the ejection of dust from WTC1 followed, rather than preceding, the descent of the roofline. To initiate collapse, cutter charges would need to go off before the collapse began, not after. Causality is a rather basic aspect of physics, and inequalities applied to the time axis are a similarly basic aspect of mathematics. Therefore, it's Chandler's failure to appreciate the absolute fundamentals of physics and mathematics that are, perhaps, more worthy of comment.

Dave
 
I agree, they are extremely relevant. In any case, Chandler's qualifications are not relevant to discussion of the content of his video.

That content, sadly, is same ****, different day. The back-and-forth video approach actually does a very good job of showing how the ejection of dust from WTC1 followed, rather than preceding, the descent of the roofline. To initiate collapse, cutter charges would need to go off before the collapse began, not after. Causality is a rather basic aspect of physics, and inequalities applied to the time axis are a similarly basic aspect of mathematics. Therefore, it's Chandler's failure to appreciate the absolute fundamentals of physics and mathematics that are, perhaps, more worthy of comment.

Dave

he i dont defend Chandlers stuff. i just pointed out a claim from someone else i disagreed with, that i disagree with Chandler should be clear from my first post.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79sJ1bMR6VQ



He didn't establish they were coming out of the corners at all. He just stated it and asks to take his word for it. They're far too minor to be an explosive, as seen in the above video, and the video shows absolutely no evidence of a structural failure at that point. If there was a bomb or something similar on that location, you'd expect to be something visible on the steel where the puff came from, but there isn't.



David Charla... Chandler is a professor of mathematics and physics, not quite relevant in this "debate".

McHrozni

Umm He is NOT a professor of mathematics or physics.
He is a HIGH SCHOOL physics instructor. There is a BIG difference.

Unless of course I am out of date and he is now a college professor... Last I heard he was teaching HIGH SCHOOL physics.
 
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As a qualified (by two separate commands) submarine conventional weapons handing supervisor (CWHS) I feel safe in pointing out that 1) Explosives don't react well to extreme shock and that 2) Explosives don't react well to high prolonged heat.

Both of those conditions (extreme shock and prolonged high heat) were observed by thousands of eyewitnesses, in hundreds of photographs and in at least 43 videos. :D

During my training I had to read through thousands of pages in at least a dozen manuals describing mishaps involving all types of conventional explosives and the results of those accidents and incidents. Every major accident involved shock and/or heat. There were a few incidents where shock and/or heat were involved but they were nowhere near 9/11 levels (weapons dropped a few feet, fires that affected the walls of bunkers/lockers and such) and no type of detonation (low order or high order) occurred.

These are the things I know for a fact. There is no wiggle room. There is absolutely nothing to contend. If any pre-planted explosives existed in any of the buildings they would've gone off long before the idiots who make that stupid claim say they did, either from the initial shock or the subsequent fires.

Before any wannabe explosive experts chime in... yes I'm aware that certain explosives can burn and not explode, the fault in that reasoning is that the burster/booster that actually makes the explosive detonate cannot survive the events seen on 9/11. They are much less stable than the compound that they are mated with.

Danny Jowenko (the truthers expert they love to quote) states that there were NO CD charges in the towers because the igniters would fail at 320C. In any big fire they would fail and NOT work.
 
Danny Jowenko (the truthers expert they love to quote) states that there were NO CD charges in the towers because the igniters would fail at 320C. In any big fire they would fail and NOT work.

SHHHH! DJ is only relevant when discussing WTC 7! Outside of that his opinion is meaningless dontchaknow.

Umm He is NOT a professor of mathematics or physics.
He is a HIGH SCHOOL physics instructor. There is a BIG difference.

Unless of course I am out of date and he is now a college professor... Last I heard he was teaching HIGH SCHOOL physics.

i think when he first pooped on the scene with his youtube videos he only taught high school, but since then he has also been an adjunct at a community college. either way both his credentials and resume show he is no authority. he's steven jones light at best. and even thats not saying much. but at least chandler hasn't been trying to prove jesus was in north america.

http://www.ae911truth.org/profile.php?uid=999083
 
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There is absolutely nothing I dislike more than a post that says "debunk this."

You know, buddy, debunk THIS.

By the way, this video is embarrassing even considering the low standards of the truth movement. The freaking massive structure is already descending, fracturing the beams. Most tellingly, he shows a second video but mysteriously edits it so it DOES NOT SHOW THE ALLEGED CUTTER CHARGE.

Man truthers, your leaders are a bunch of frauds.
 
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Umm He is NOT a professor of mathematics or physics.
He is a HIGH SCHOOL physics instructor. There is a BIG difference.

Unless of course I am out of date and he is now a college professor... Last I heard he was teaching HIGH SCHOOL physics.

I googled him, his profile stated he taught at junior college level. I thought this made him a professor, but if not, that just reduces his appeal as an authority :)

McHrozni
 
here you claimed Mathematics and Physics are not relevant to this debate, i say yes they are very relevant in this debate.

Mathematics and physics are relevant in the debate, but mr. Charalatan isn't.

I suppose I could try writing that in German, if English isn't understandable enough ...

McHrozni
 
Mathematics and physics are relevant in the debate, but mr. Charalatan isn't.

I suppose I could try writing that in German, if English isn't understandable enough ...

McHrozni

but that wasnt what you said in your first post........

but sure atack my english............
 
here you claimed Mathematics and Physics are not relevant to this debate, i say yes they are very relevant in this debate.

Please study for reading comprehension. He never once stated of inferred that Math and/or Physics was not relevant to this debate.

He claimed a professor (teacher) of Math & Physics is not relevant to this debate.

Why is reading comprehension so difficult for posters?
 
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The video is made up by nut case conspiracy theorists.

The energy from a gravity collapse is over 200 2000 pound bombs! The nut case conspiracy theorists failed to use math and physics before they decided to be dolts who apologize for terrorists with delusions.

It has been 8 years, anyone fooled by these dolts is dumber than dirt.

No need to debunk insane dolts who make up delusions based on zero evidence. Check their evidence; it is zero. The blast would be visible, the energy levels of ejected material are not from blasts, they are from the energy released due to gravity collapse.

A blast results in higher speed ejections of dust; look at real explosions.
 
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If anyone wants to watch videos of known explosive demolitions for comparison purpose, you can find a bunch of them on this Implosionworld.com page.

If you [ay attention to what you're watching, you will notice that in every case the blasts and material ejections ("squibs") precede the beginning of collapse and that the structures do not collapse from the top down.

Any resemblance to the collapses of the WTC towers is purely superficial- so superficial that it's astonishing that CT promoters can continue to flog this dead horse.
 

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