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Amanda Knox guilty - all because of a cartwheel

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halides1 said:
Ms. Dempsey quoted a letter from Amanda to one of her lawyers from November 9, 2007, which says in part, "I imagined that I'd met Patrick near the basketball courts...and I named Patrick and I totally regret it now because I know that what I said has hurt him." Ms. Dempsey describes the existence of this letter (p. 294, Murder in Italy) as a surprise to some of the reporters as of June, 2009.
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That's not an 'apology'. It was also written to the wrong person!
 
Fulcanelli wrote: "Ahh, you know jack...first of all you'd never seen it...then you didn't have it. Now you have it you can't read it. Don't you think you should have read all this crap before getting on your high horse with all your accusations and assertions???"

Fulcanelli, Relax. You will find a way to become important again. Don't stress yourself out.
 
Bruce and Fulcanelli, could you guys knock off the sniping please?

Discuss the evidence, not each other.
 
HumanityBlues said:
I bought and read Barbie's book. Which part of it did you think was less offensive: the part where she described Meredith's sex habits, her privates, and her bust line, or where she talked about how her and her reporter friends snickered at Meredith's British friends calling them the "7 virgins"?

And let's not even get started on her theory of the crime.
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Fulcanneli, answer The question. You state that Barbie is one of your trusted sources.
 
BobTheDonkey said:
Evidence? ;)


(to be fair, I'm not a fan of any of the books written about this case.)
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Evidence of what...that she's no more then a bored housewife? She doesn't work for anyone as a journalist. She started out with a personal reader blog on hosted by the Seattle PI...'Italian Woman at the Table' which was for her personal waffle about travel and cooking. Her sister (already FOA) got her to start blogging about the case sympathetically to the Knoxes. As for being FOAm if reading her blog isn't enough for you to know it, five PMF members watched her attend the FOA fundraiser at Salty's in Seattle (as a guest, not a reporter - read PMF, January 2008). She lied about it afterwards and on her blog tried to pretend she never went.
 
Fulcanelli said:
Evidence of what...that she's no more then a bored housewife? She doesn't work for anyone as a journalist. She started out with a personal reader blog on hosted by the Seattle PI...'Italian Woman at the Table' which was for her personal waffle about travel and cooking. Her sister (already FOA) got her to start blogging about the case sympathetically to the Knoxes. As for being FOAm if reading her blog isn't enough for you to know it, five PMF members watched her attend the FOA fundraiser at Salty's in Seattle (as a guest, not a reporter - read PMF, January 2008). She lied about it afterwards and on her blog tried to pretend she never went.
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Thank you much.

Bruce/Halides1 - you guys think Dempsey is a better source than Nadeau. Could either of you elaborate on what evidence you have that Barbie is an unreliable/biased source - and not just assertions, but evidence?
 
BobTheDonkey said:
Bruce and Fulcanelli, could you guys knock off the sniping please?

Discuss the evidence, not each other.
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Sorry Bob, but Fulcanelli/Michael needs to be put in his place. He along with the rest of his PMF clan has done everything in their power to destroy two innocent people's lives.

His power is gone, his cult has faded away and now he's angry about it.

We are talking about real lives here. This isn't a game.

Meredith Kercher lost her life in a senseless act of pure evil. No one disputes this. We all feel horrible for Meredith and her family.

Destroying two innocent lives will bring no peace and certainly no justice for Meredith.
 
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Bruce Fisher said:
Fulcanelli wrote: "Ahh, you know jack...first of all you'd never seen it...then you didn't have it. Now you have it you can't read it. Don't you think you should have read all this crap before getting on your high horse with all your accusations and assertions???"

Fulcanelli, Relax. You will find a way to become important again. Don't stress yourself out.
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If he makes a powerpoint maybe Frank Sfarzo will give him the time of day and pay him some of his FOA money!:D Fulcanelli is such an insider you know.
 
Fulcanelli said:
Answer what...what has she been accused of saying that's untrue?
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Originally Posted by HumanityBlues View Post
I bought and read Barbie's book. Which part of it did you think was less offensive: the part where she described Meredith's sex habits, her privates, and her bust line, or where she talked about how her and her reporter friends snickered at Meredith's British friends calling them the "7 virgins"?
 
Fulcanelli said:
Many FOAK'ers here (and elsewhere) have been whinging on and on about how Amanda and Raffaele should have been made suspects before the night of the 5th.
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I don't know if my whingeing views on this subject are being referred to here, but I believe that AK should have been made a formal suspect by around midnight on the 5/6 Nov - by which time the police had learned of RS's partial u-turn on supporting AK's alibi. I don't think RS should have been made a suspect until the phone/computer records and/or the DNA evidence were known to the police.

Ohhhhh no - I just realised, we FOAKers are not all singing from the same hymn sheet! I'm going to get a very annoyed email from David Marriott, plus probably a withholding of this month's payment :mad:
 
LondonJohn said:
I don't know if my whingeing views on this subject are being referred to here, but I believe that AK should have been made a formal suspect by around midnight on the 5/6 Nov - by which time the police had learned of RS's partial u-turn on supporting AK's alibi. I don't think RS should have been made a suspect until the phone/computer records and/or the DNA evidence were known to the police.

Ohhhhh no - I just realised, we FOAKers are not all singing from the same hymn sheet! I'm going to get a very annoyed email from David Marriott, plus probably a withholding of this month's payment :mad:
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David Marriott has been texting me all day offering to pay me a million dollars. I have met David Marriott before. He is ten feet tall and can breathe fire and shoots lightning from his eyeballs. He is formidable!:jaw-dropp
 
Bruce Fisher said:
Originally Posted by HumanityBlues View Post
I bought and read Barbie's book. Which part of it did you think was less offensive: the part where she described Meredith's sex habits, her privates, and her bust line, or where she talked about how her and her reporter friends snickered at Meredith's British friends calling them the "7 virgins"?
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I'm wondering what this has to do with whether a source us trustworthy or not. The whole point you were arguing earlier is that Barbie is not a trustworthy source. Instead of evidencing that, all we are getting is your making personal attacks on her. If you have a VALID point to make, then make it.
 
Bruce Fisher said:
Sorry Bob, but Fulcanelli/Michael needs to be put in his place. He along with the rest of his PMF clan has done everything in their power to destroy two innocent people's lives.

His power is gone, his cult has faded away and now he's angry about it.

We are talking about real lives here. This isn't a game.

Meredith Kercher lost her life in a senseless act of pure evil. No one disputes this. We all feel horrible for Meredith and her family.

Destroying two innocent lives will bring no peace and certainly no justice for Meredith.
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You certainly have not evidenced your claims that these are two innocent lives. As such, your basis for "putting Fulcanelli in his place" is flawed.

Prove your side with evidence, would that not put Fulcanelli in his place?
 
LondonJohn said:
I don't know if my whingeing views on this subject are being referred to here, but I believe that AK should have been made a formal suspect by around midnight on the 5/6 Nov - by which time the police had learned of RS's partial u-turn on supporting AK's alibi. I don't think RS should have been made a suspect until the phone/computer records and/or the DNA evidence were known to the police.

Ohhhhh no - I just realised, we FOAKers are not all singing from the same hymn sheet! I'm going to get a very annoyed email from David Marriott, plus probably a withholding of this month's payment :mad:
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That's where it gets dicey. Personally, I find nothing wrong with what the Police did. Just because Raffaele dropped Amanda's alibi doesn't automatically make her a true suspect.

Raffaele dropped her alibi, so the Police pushed for her to explain where she was. In that push, she accused Lumumba and indicated she was, at the least, in the cottage when the murder/rape happened.
 
Bruce Fisher said:
Originally Posted by HumanityBlues View Post
I bought and read Barbie's book. Which part of it did you think was less offensive: the part where she described Meredith's sex habits, her privates, and her bust line, or where she talked about how her and her reporter friends snickered at Meredith's British friends calling them the "7 virgins"?
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He's not going to answer that. As long as a source says "guilty", then it doesn't matter how offensive it is. Personally, I'm sure it was incredibly difficult for them to testify in court and relive the death of their dear friend...then to have Barbie and her friends laughing at them and calling them mean nicknames. But whatever. Barbie thinks Amanda Knox is guilty, so that's all that matters.
 
Fulcanelli said:
Many FOAK'ers here (and elsewhere) have been whinging on and on about how Amanda and Raffaele should have been made suspects before the night of the 5th.
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I haven't noticed that.

Of course. It was verified not only by one court, but three courts including the Italian High Court (that same court you seem to think is going to toss out the knife, all the DNA evidence and aquit Amanda).
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Again, you are taking all of this at face value because it was verified by the courts, which, because they are made up of people, are fallible and deserve scrutiny.

Ahh, you know jack...first of all you'd never seen it...then you didn't have it. Now you have it you can't read it. Don't you think you should have read all this crap before getting on your high horse with all your accusations and assertions???
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Yeah, I was pretty sure you wouldn't answer the question. AGAIN. Why do I keep thinking of Richard Gere's tap-dancing scene in the movie "Chicago?"

It's weaselly enough to continually evade serious questions about the evidence, but it's extraordinary that you would refuse to take advantage of a golden opportunity to educate someone like me who hasn't read the entire Matteini report. Why on earth would you want to deliberately withhold this information from someone?

You're too good to be true, Fulcanelli. Are you really the best the guilters have to offer?
 
Bruce Fisher said:
Fulcanelli, your description of Candace actually suits you better. You run and moderate a cult like website so that you can feel important. You come here for the same reason.
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Bruce,

Your little childish rants are becoming tiresome. Besides, you're behind a presentation that you had promised. Shouldn't you be busy with that?
 
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