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[Cavemonster]

The cyanide in fruit is naturally occurring, not from pesticides.

You've many times made the argument that there is no acceptable dose of "toxic chemicals" and yet I guarantee you that you eat foods containing small amounts of "toxic chemicals"

 

[SaveAmericaFightNWO]

Did you know that potatoes contain glycoalkaloids? Toxic chemicals that can cause headaches, diarrhea, cramps and in severe cases coma and death.
These are not from pesticides, they are naturally occurring.

So would you let your child eat a potato? After all you seem to have a zero tolerance policy for even low levels of "toxic chemicals"

yes I did.. which is why I don't eat potatos...

but ironically, mercury, aluminum, formaldehyde, can't be found in potatos, they're found in vaccines.

See that is the subject here.. Vaccines. Not foods. Not natural toxins.. But Vaccines and their toxic chemicals inside them!

i'm talking about man-made 'medicine' having toxins.

ITS SPELLED P-O-T-A-T-O, not POTATOE. I can't believe you follow Vice Pres. Dan Quayle's spelling... lol

 

[Safe-Keeper]

Oh you did? cause you didn't make that clear about what you were asking there, cause you worded as though "is that what you call good business practices cause that's not how I would do business" rant..

Ooooh, now I get it. You're trying to tell me that vaccines are dangerous because they're sold by corporations, which are all bad by definition because you believe WalMart and a select few other ones to be bad. A Guilt by Association fallacy, in other words.

It's very relevant how corporations are run, if they are the one's selling us "medicine" that is full of cancer virus and toxic ingredients..

I love how people complain about all "corporations" being bad. A corporation is just a company that you can invest stocks in. Most corporations in the US are small companies barely keeping their heads above the waterline. Heck, they don't need to be even that -- Skeptoid is a corporation, and that's a one-man show! Oh, and those organic farmers you probably love so much? Corporations. Which, in your world, seems to mean that they're all greedy and corrupt and that you shouldn't buy produce from them.

yes I did.. which is why I don't eat potatos...

It's spelled P-O-T-A-T-O-E-S.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/potato

 

[SaveAmericaFightNWO]

The cyanide in fruit is naturally occurring, not from pesticides.

You've many times made the argument that there is no acceptable dose of "toxic chemicals" and yet I guarantee you that you eat foods containing small amounts of "toxic chemicals"

the chemicals in our foods go where? in our gut.. the chemicals in our vaccines go where?

not in the gut!

at least in the gut, the bacteria can breakdown some of the chemicals.. with vaccines there's no gut to do that..

you're making an issue of something we all can't help...

I can't help there may be a 1 part per billion in the water that ends up in my food, I can't help that... no body really can.. you're making an irrelevant argument. Those are things we can not say NO to.

We can say NO to a vaccine.

We can say NO to vaccines that contain toxic chemicals or certain amounts of viral materials.. whatever the case maybe, we have a CHOICE in which medicines we take.. we have a choice what foods we eat..

we do not have a choice when chemicals are just there, at such a tiny amount that there's nothing we can do about it, thats not the same case with vaccines.. those chemicals are there.. because they were put there by man, inside the vaccines, thats an environment (sterile) that can be controlled... granted.. there might be some part per billion of water vapor in the vaccine that we don't know about.. we can't change that part.. the manufacturers put the chemicals IN...

we can't always help what mother nature puts IN

but we can help what is put INto our bodies..

we can limit the amount of toxins in our bodies.. but my issue isn't just with the toxins in the vaccines... I have problems with the whole vaccine, there's animal cells that shouldn't be there.. there are human cells of other people's DNA or RNA that shouldn't be in there.

 

[SaveAmericaFightNWO]

Ooooh, now I get it. You're trying to tell me that vaccines are dangerous because they're sold by corporations, which are all bad by definition because you believe WalMart and a select few other ones to be bad. A Guilt by Association fallacy, in other words.

I'm not trying to sell you that at all, not at all. I don't say that corporations are "evil" no... cause I'm not that way. YOU can't say that there isn't corruption, cause we've seen it. I've seen the way BAYER actually does business, they knowingly spread AIDS.. that is not guilt by association.

I love how people complain about all "corporations" being bad.

again, that's not what I'm doing here. so don't go putting words in other's mouths.

A corporation is just a company that you can invest stocks in.

Bayer corp, wasn't just that.. they are/were murderers.

Most corporations in the US are small companies barely keeping their heads above the waterline.

how many ma and paps own a pharmaceutical multi-national?

Again, i'm not referring to Main Street businesses.

Heck, they don't need to be even that -- Skeptoid is a corporation, and that's a one-man show! Oh, and those organic farmers you probably love so much? Corporations. Which, in your world, seems to mean that they're all greedy and corrupt and that you shouldn't buy produce from them.

I actually buy most of my meats, fruits and vegetables from local farmers that do "better than organic" practices.

Nope again, you're trying to "find me out" that I dislike corporations or something.. I don't.. corporations are entities, it depends on which corporation that we're talking about, I do not generalize unlike you.

It's spelled P-O-T-A-T-O-E-S.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/potato

No.. its not.. that is just how RETARD dan queer spells it, you can be ignorant if you want... he's illiterate.

its potatos not potatoes

 

[CurtC]

the chemicals in our foods go where? in our gut..

And absorbed into the bloodstream. Fruits and vegetables contain many toxic chemicals that get absorbed into the bloodstream.

we can't always help what mother nature puts IN

but we can help what is put INto our bodies..

It was you, remember, who said you'd never give a baby toxic chemicals. We've shown that by feeding a baby you're giving it toxic chemicals.

It was you who claimed that the dose doesn't matter - toxic is toxic, but now you're saying that small amounts don't harm anyone. You're coming around to what we've been telling you.

we can limit the amount of toxins in our bodies.. but my issue isn't just with the toxins in the vaccines... I have problems with the whole vaccine,

That, ladies and gentlemen, is called "moving the goalposts."

When someone has a religion-like belief system, and one part is shown to be false, the believer almost always simply shifts to a different subject, without acknowledging that he was mistaken before, and without the self-reflection of what that would indicate.

since when???? I don't eat fruits that have been sprayed with pesticides!!!!

If you eat organic produce, you eat food that's been treated with pesticides. In many cases pesticides that are very toxic to humans.

No.. its not.. that is just how RETARD dan queer spells it, you can be ignorant if you want... he's illiterate.

its potatos not potatoes

What evidence would convince you otherwise?

The fact that you're cocksure about your spelling, which is obviously wrong to every other person in the country, is not surprising to us. It's how you handle all your opinions.

 

[Safe-Keeper]

the chemicals in our foods go where? in our gut.. the chemicals in our vaccines go where?

not in the gut!

at least in the gut, the bacteria can breakdown some of the chemicals.. with vaccines there's no gut to do that..

SaveAmerica, meet Mr. Liver. Mr. Liver, say hello to SaveAmerica.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liver

The liver is a vital organ present in vertebrates and some other animals. It has a wide range of functions, including detoxification, protein synthesis, and production of biochemicals necessary for digestion. The liver is necessary for survival; there is currently no way to compensate for the absence of liver function.

I wondered about the eating/injection thing, too, but it was pointed out to me that vaccines were injected into veins leading to... : the liver.

you're making an issue of something we all can't help...

We aren't making an issue out of it, merely correcting your odd statement that only some chemicals are toxic.

we can limit the amount of toxins in our bodies.. but my issue isn't just with the toxins in the vaccines... I have problems with the whole vaccine, there's animal cells that shouldn't be there..

Why not? We eat animals all the time, why can't we use their cells to save lives, too?

there are human cells of other people's DNA or RNA that shouldn't be in there.

Oh yeah, the "aborted fetal tissue" nonsense. Please give me some proof of that one.

Oh, and for the benefit of lurkers: http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4180

 

[SaveAmericaFightNWO]

The cyanide in fruit is naturally occurring, not from pesticides.

You've many times made the argument that there is no acceptable dose of "toxic chemicals" and yet I guarantee you that you eat foods containing small amounts of "toxic chemicals"

naturally occuring of the pips of an apple.. not the fruit itself that you eat..

and you would have to eat a lot of them, plus again.. completely different toxicity altogether.

one you eat, take into the gut... the other.. you take straight into the arm!

 

[technoextreme]

a toxin is still a toxin.

toxins have effects, whether or not you see them with your naked eyes or not.

You can't tell me, that a toxin, if diluted enough, stops being a toxin..

Oxygen and water.

I wondered about the eating/injection thing, too, but it was pointed out to me that vaccines were injected into veins leading to... : the liver.

Errrr... I thought the vaccines were injected into muscle.

 

[Ricomise]

Once people, in a society, sets up food and safety standards, start washing their hands/bodies with REAL soap(not petroleum) bathe and drink in pure water, not the toxic water in most cities, eat healthier foods... like raw and organic, getting enough exercise and sunlight, taking supplements if the body is deficient or if you know you haven't been eating right.

That is where real immunity is, not some toxic chemicals and a needle prick.

Anyone that believes they'll gain something by injecting these chemicals into their bodies, needs to take a basic course in chemistry.

OK, now I understand. You're a shill for the organic/supplement industry. Man, when will big Organa/suppla stop trying to make money by poisoning us with their bacteria-ridden food and overdoses of vitamens?

 

[TraneWreck]

yes I did.. which is why I don't eat potatos...

Having read this whole silly thread (that started out nicely), I laughed quite heartily at this response.

There's something nearly admirable about folks willing to take their ideas to such a level of absurdity.

 

[casebro]

I call my own reasoning "Personal Risk vs Mass Risk". I apply it to much preventative medicine like this:

A disease in question is suffered by 10% of the population. The preventative measure cuts that risk by 50%. So, with the prevention, my personal risk is lowered from 90% chance of not getting the disease, to a 95% chance. Not much benefit for ME. Certainly not worth any side effects.

Oh, I can see how the medicos look at it as preventing the disease for 15,000,000 people. But the logic of "Think of the Masses" still hardly effects me personally.

But there is a herd immunity that somebody like me does benefit from. Though I just don't know how big the anti-vax movement actually is, and if it is having a real affect on our herd immunity.

That said, I do get vaccines if/when I remember. And take my blood pressure medicine, in a dose that sometimes gives me vision disturbances. It's about half the dose the docs want me to take.

 

[SaveAmericaFightNWO]

SaveAmerica, meet Mr. Liver. Mr. Liver, say hello to SaveAmerica.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liver

I already knew that friend, I was asking for the sake of making people think, playing devils advocate here.

I wondered about the eating/injection thing, too, but it was pointed out to me that vaccines were injected into veins leading to... : the liver.

hmm.. so you're saying what? that vaccines damage the liver, okay, I got that one already.. that vaccines can bare harm to the bloodstream, yup, I had that one already.

We aren't making an issue out of it, merely correcting your odd statement that only some chemicals are toxic.

no.. you're not correcting anything, I've already told you, there's a HUGE difference between eating a toxin, and taking one in the arm.

Why not? We eat animals all the time, why can't we use their cells to save lives, too?

I don't eat animals all the time, and why not? cause we are not animals, there should never be ANY other RNA or DNA of anyone or anything, but our own, injected straight into our arm or blood or liver or anywhere..

There's never a time when animal cells would be safe to inject into someone, and not cause any RNA or DNA damage to the host.

Oh yeah, the "aborted fetal tissue" nonsense. Please give me some proof of that one.

Oh, and for the benefit of lurkers: http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4180

Easy.. go to CDC.gov... type in "additives vaccines" click on the first result list, then scroll down to "Vaccine ingredients sorted by vaccine"

clicking on that link brings you to here;

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appendices/B/excipient-table-2.pdf

scroll down to MMR.. MMRV, Rabis, Vaccinia

"Human Serum Albumin"

oh please explain to me the importance of Polysorbate-80 thats known to cause infertility in lab mice, in vaccines? especially in the HPV Gardasil shot..

and what's MSG doing? when we know it was BANNED for its risk to brain tissue damage, literally makes you a retard

 

[Safe-Keeper]

I wondered about the eating/injection thing, too, but it was pointed out to me that vaccines were injected into veins leading to... : the liver.

Errrr... I thought the vaccines were injected into muscle.

D'oh. I actually know that... guess SaveAmerica confused me.

There's never a time when animal cells would be safe to inject into someone, and not cause any RNA or DNA damage to the host.

Why don't plants damage the host, then? Don't their cells contain genetic code, too? Are you sure you won't wake up one day with a nice coating of leaves covering your skin?

 

[Almo]

I call my own reasoning "Personal Risk vs Mass Risk". I apply it to much preventative medicine like this:

A disease in question is suffered by 10% of the population. The preventative measure cuts that risk by 50%. So, with the prevention, my personal risk is lowered from 90% chance of not getting the disease, to a 95% chance. Not much benefit for ME. Certainly not worth any side effects.

This is exactly the kind of reasoning that gets Humanity into trouble over and over again. Read Collapse by Jared Diamond.

 

[technoextreme]

oh please explain to me the importance of Polysorbate-80 thats known to cause infertility in lab mice, in vaccines? especially in the HPV Gardasil shot..

I think your definition of known is incorrect. It doesn't cause infertility in lab mice.

There's never a time when animal cells would be safe to inject into someone, and not cause any RNA or DNA damage to the host.

Ummmmm... We are animals.....

 

[SaveAmericaFightNWO]

Having read this whole silly thread (that started out quite nicely), I laughed quite heartily at this response.

There's something nearly admirable about folks willing to take their ideas to such a level of absurdity.

okay mister sax, I've eaten potatos before, last time I ate them was when I was turning 25, it was my birthday, I made a grass-fed organic new york steak, and red potatos that I made into garlic roasted then mashed potatos.

Now.. you want to laugh at my diet, you go ahead, but I've lost more fat in less time, than most anyone I know.. from diet alone.. I have not had to exercise vigorously to gain better results than my friends with non-organic diets.

You can be a statistic and die of a stroke if you like?

Drink diet soda, chew lots of bubble-gum, take lots of flu vaccines, and I'm sure you'll die soon enough, just like Rockefeller wants..

for all you "useless eaters" to die off..

thats what that bigot thinks of you.. he's laughing at you, for laughing at me.. at least I have the guts to tell you the honest truth about medicine.. and give you REAL solutions..

not just send you packing with a petroleum pill!

 

[SaveAmericaFightNWO]

I think your definition of known is incorrect. It doesn't cause infertility in lab mice.

Ummmmm... We are animals.....

oh.. i'm just suppose to believe you on your word huh? Show me then where do you find that polysorbate 80 does not cause infertility in lab mice? Have you tested it on them?

no we're not animals, we are not cows, we are not pigs, we are not monkeys we are not sheep, we are not mice...

there's no GOOD reason for those animal cells to even be used..

its perverted to shove LIVESTOCK's RNA/DNA into a human being..

HECK.. this is a THEORY of mine you can see it's obvious, they want to dumb us down, to make us LIKE cattle... literally.. by adding these LIVESTOCK's encoding into our own.. breeding the cow/chicken/monkey inferior coding, into our own..

you don't get it do you?

If they can inject poisons and virus (derived from animal cells)

they literally could develop this vaccine, to really.. just genetically alter humans... literally...

that could be whats happening.. internally..

Have you had your DNA checked?? I know I haven't.... MOOOO!!

 

[technoextreme]

no we're not animals, we are not cows, we are not pigs, we are not monkeys we are not sheep, we are not mice...

Really? So why am I supposed to take advice from someone who failed basic biology? There are only so many kingdoms that all living species fall under. If it aint animal then what are we? Protozoan? Bacteria? Fungi?

 

[TraneWreck]

okay mister sax, I've eaten potatos before, last time I ate them was when I was turning 25, it was my birthday, I made a grass-fed organic new york steak, and red potatos that I made into garlic roasted then mashed potatos.

Now.. you want to laugh at my diet, you go ahead, but I've lost more fat in less time, than most anyone I know.. from diet alone.. I have not had to exercise vigorously to gain better results than my friends with non-organic diets.

You can be a statistic and die of a stroke if you like?

Drink diet soda, chew lots of bubble-gum, take lots of flu vaccines, and I'm sure you'll die soon enough, just like Rockefeller wants..

for all you "useless eaters" to die off..

thats what that bigot thinks of you.. he's laughing at you, for laughing at me.. at least I have the guts to tell you the honest truth about medicine.. and give you REAL solutions..

not just send you packing with a petroleum pill!

Not a fan of soda, I do gobble down flu vaccines though. I heard that eating enough of them creates a Viagra-like effect, and how!

It is interesting that as Rockefeller tries to cut our lifespans down, they've been consistently growing. Bad supervillain, I guess.