I love Dr. Nancy Snyderman of NBC

Thank you JJM.

It wasn't 100% bad, but Deer could have been treated with more respect and they gave the quacks wayyyyy too much benefit of the doubt.

Of course, on pathology, Thoughtful House pathologists apparently found "mild inflammation." What did Krigsman prescribe? Lots of supplements, daily laxatives, and periodic colon cleansing. Can you imagine subjecting an autistic child to laxatives and colon cleanses? As far as I'm concerned, that's child abuse, particularly given that there's no scientific justification for it.

Sadly, A Dose of Controversy falls into the same trap that so many media examinations of pseudoscience fall into. It applied the journalistic convention designed for stories about politics, legal matters, and other human conflict to something it's not well-suited for, the battle between pseudoscience and science. In doing so, it gives the impression that there is actually far more to the pseudoscience than there in fact is. Even worse, it dollops onto that convention another cliche, namely the iconoclast, the rebel, the "brave maverick doctor bucking the system against who the system stands united. Pile it all together, and it was a huge missed opportunity. Two statements illustrate this well, both occuring near the end of the report. First Lauer describes Wakefield as a man who will listen to these parents, respond to them, and stand up for them, while Wakefield says, "I don't know if vaccines cause autism. I know it's a question that needs to be asked and I'm not going to walk away from it." I predict that the phones at Thoughtful House will be ringing off the hook this week.
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Wakefield should have gotten burned for what he has done, but again he's just the guy who listens to parents. He listens alright, and then feeds and banks on their fears. That is just plain disgusting. Shame on Lauer and NBC!
 
"Kudos, Dr. Snyderman, kudos."


That shows me that her argument is immature and holds no merit.

this repeating yourself until someone believes you crap is obvious.

she has/had no valid explanation, just rhetoric school-girl ranting Snyderman: "NOT controversial subject!"

Why isn't it a controversial subject Doctor? Maybe for you it isn't controversial(since you're working for big-pHARMa)

Maybe for you it isn't controversial because you are the one promoting vaccines here, you have much to gain by your message, your repeaticious lies only benefit yourself and the industry of establishment medical psuedo-scicence no-blind-placebo-studies snake-sales-men AMA (pagan/eqyptian symbol of health with two snakes, hmm)

the fraud Nancy Snyderman should be thrown in jail
 
Eos of the Eons said:
Thank you JJM.

It wasn't 100% bad, but Deer could have been treated with more respect and they gave the quacks wayyyyy too much benefit of the doubt.



Wakefield should have gotten burned for what he has done, but again he's just the guy who listens to parents. He listens alright, and then feeds and banks on their fears. That is just plain disgusting. Shame on Lauer and NBC!
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You are a fool to believe big-pharma over sound science backed by placebo studies..

Vaccine studies, the majority that I have found, use another vaccine as the "control" group, you can't use 2 vaccines in a study to test 1 vaccine, you have to use 1 vaccine (the one you're testing) and nothing at all "placebo" (for the control group)

These vaccine manufacturers do not use placebo studies, they are the biggest fraud in medical history.

If you think Wakefield is your enemy? You are dead wrong, Snyderman is our enemy, she works for the pigs that profit from feeding us.. ROCKEFELLER snake-oil!!!

it all started in 1901, where this vaccine crap came from..

Dr. Russell Blaylock:

"Who created orthodox medicine? Where did that come from? Well, it actually came from the Rockefeller Foundation back in 1901. The Rockefellers at the time...because of the Standard Oil scandals, no one wanted to be called a
Rockefeller. Everybody hated all the Ro...ckefellers. And so his friend Reve...rend Gates, went to John D. Rockefeller, Sr. and told him, he said, "Well, here's a way we can repair your reputation." And he gave him a good example. He said, "There was this man who everybody hated... and he started giving money out for all sorts of philanthropic enterprises, and soon people forgot all of the bad things. So the first thing, because Gates' father was a physician, and John D. Rockefeller's father was a quack snake-oil
salesmen, he said, "Let's form the Rockefeller Institute of Medical Research." And so they created this in 1901. Rockefeller owned what was
called the drug trust: that's the major drug manufacturing firms..."
 
SaveAmericaFightNWO said:
You are a fool to believe big-pharma over sound science backed by placebo studies..

Vaccine studies, the majority that I have found, use another vaccine as the "control" group, you can't use 2 vaccines in a study to test 1 vaccine, you have to use 1 vaccine (the one you're testing) and nothing at all "placebo" (for the control group)

These vaccine manufacturers do not use placebo studies, they are the biggest fraud in medical history.

If you think Wakefield is your enemy? You are dead wrong, Snyderman is our enemy, she works for the pigs that profit from feeding us.. ROCKEFELLER snake-oil!!!

it all started in 1901, where this vaccine crap came from..

Dr. Russell Blaylock:

"Who created orthodox medicine? Where did that come from? Well, it actually came from the Rockefeller Foundation back in 1901. The Rockefellers at the time...because of the Standard Oil scandals, no one wanted to be called a
Rockefeller. Everybody hated all the Ro...ckefellers. And so his friend Reve...rend Gates, went to John D. Rockefeller, Sr. and told him, he said, "Well, here's a way we can repair your reputation." And he gave him a good example. He said, "There was this man who everybody hated... and he started giving money out for all sorts of philanthropic enterprises, and soon people forgot all of the bad things. So the first thing, because Gates' father was a physician, and John D. Rockefeller's father was a quack snake-oil
salesmen, he said, "Let's form the Rockefeller Institute of Medical Research." And so they created this in 1901. Rockefeller owned what was
called the drug trust: that's the major drug manufacturing firms..."
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Heh. Way to live up to your the impression your name provides. I was kinda hoping you were going to be a parody. I'm keeping my fingers crossed. :)

Vaccine studies are performed against placebo. Sorry.

Linda
 
Great video. If I heard it right, thimerosal (the mercury containing preservative) was removed from vaccines and the rate of autism has increased?

Thimerosal prevents autism!

Now I need a website and a "click to purchase" link.
 
Oh SaveAmericaFightNWO , the conspiracy nutters have already done the "if you're big pharma in any way shape or form you have nobody's best interests at heart, inclucing their own kids and rest of family" to death, but whatev. No actual facts or points to ponder, just natter natter conpiracy this and that. zzzzzz...

Blaylock?? Now I know you are not serious!
 
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Nancy Snyderman is great. She cuts through the bull that so many sCamers and med woos toss out there.

Drew Pinsky is also great about going after alt-med on Loveline. He goes into this rant whenever anyone mentions "toxins".
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I'm quite sure that Doctor Drew and other Hollywood-doctors/So-Called-Experts, like Snyderman, Doctor Oz, etc...

Have no real understanding about Bio-Chemistry, and could not find one valid vaccine study ever done to prove their view or recommendation as justified by science, but instead their motives are for mass-poisoning.

That's what toxins are.. poisons. Toxins cause cancer, cell damage, organ damage, immune system dysfunction, etc etc..

Why did Michael Jackson die? Drug interactions. Were drugs ever tested to be taken with other drugs? No. Why are doctors prescribing multiple drugs to patients, when there are not approved to be taken with other drugs, only tested and approved by itself.

Same thing with toxins in babies killing the child, due to over toxicity from too many vaccines, in too short of a time frame.

You stick ALUMINUM and MERCURY, don't forget FORMALDEHYDE, Polysorbate 80, monkey kidney cells, bovine cells, chicken cells, human aborted fetal cells, etc etc..

Into a child's bloodstream, the most vulnerable area of the body/immune system and they can sit up there and DENY DENY DENY

that these toxic ingredients AND virus do harm these children, just some are damaged worse than others or DIE because of the vaccines. I'm no microbiologist, and I am not a neurologist, but I do know one thing though, they do not take a brain scan of children before and after vaccines, so I'm sure if they did, we could SEE for ourselves, what they have done to our childrens' futures.

I know they hide what they know in plain sight!

Just ask your doctor for the INSERTS for the vaccines, the insert is in the box the vaccines were shipped in.

Its no CONSPIRACY, its an AGENDA!

They do not want us to have REAL medicine, instead they want us coming back for what we THINK is medicine and really its POISON!

You going to the doctor cause you're sick or have a fever from a vaccine, is just like me returning my car, to a bad mechanic to ask him to "fix it".
 
SaveAmericaFightNWO said:
[TV Docs] ...have no real understanding about Bio-Chemistry, and could not find one valid vaccine study ever done to prove their view or recommendation as justified by science, but instead their motives are for mass-poisoning.
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I'm no bio-chemist, but are you saying that vaccines against Polio, Measles and so on do not help prevent those diseases? Or that small-pox wasn't eradicated by way of vaccination?

I'd think the arguments would be over in light of the history on the subject. And while we are at it, where's the fake vaccine for HIV? I suppose in that case, the Great Medical Conspiracy makes more money by selling another menu of drugs, so it wouldn't be cost effective to develop a vaccine.

You know what? This conspiracy weaving is fun!
 
fls said:
Heh. Way to live up to your the impression your name provides. I was kinda hoping you were going to be a parody. I'm keeping my fingers crossed. :)

Vaccine studies are performed against placebo. Sorry.

Linda
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You're mistaken, I'm talking about a placebo, not a vaccine as a placebo.

I've asked for some of these studies from people like you who believe in such studies.

Here's a study that doesn't use placebo..they use a vaccine instead of a placebo (vaccine as a placebo, instead of how it should be with NO vaccine)


"Hutterite Study: Vaccinating Children for Flu May Help Prevent Transmission, Protect Those Who Are Not Vaccinated"
URL link= sciencedaily com/releases/2010/03/100309161828.htm

Show me one that doesn't look like this?

Good luck finding a study that uses an actual placebo. If you do find one of these rare studies, note the amount of time 2-4 weeks. Not long enough. People have admitted having kidney failure this year up to 8 weeks after vaxes. Cancers take much longer.





"""But what do we really know about vaccines? A review of the medical literature and CDC documents reveals the following FIVE key points:

1. Vaccine studies and clinical trials are relatively small and only include healthy participants. Once approved, vaccines are given to everyone, regardless of their health condition, their family history, or their genetics.

2. Vaccine safety studies are short. Clinical trials frequently monitor side effects for only five days. Reactions to the new Swine Flu vaccine were followed for 21 days, and then the vaccine was called “safe.” These arbitrary cut offs were set years ago by the FDA and drug companies. Safe is a designation based on limited information.

3.Vaccine safety studies do not use a true placebo. The gold standard in medical research is the "placebo-controlled" trial, giving a sugar pill to the control group and then comparing the new product for safety. In vaccine trials, the control group is not given an inert substance, such as a shot of sterile saline. The control group is injected with a vaccine with a “known safety profile.” This is not an inert substance! While this may be acceptable for research, concluding a new vaccine is as “safe as a placebo” is deceptive science for both the patient AND the doctor.

4.Safety concerns about vaccines are more than theoretical. The US government has awarded almost $2billion through the Vaccine Injury Compensation Program to vaccine-injured persons. With vaccines now potentially becoming mandatory, the real costs of unnecessary medical workups and the true risk/benefit of vaccines needs to be critically overhauled.

5. Vaccine-induced antibodies do not correlate with protection. The esteemed medical journal Vaccine clearly stated: "It is known that, in many instances, antibody titers do not correlate with protection." Even the Novartis package insert for the new swine flu vaccine admits that, “Antibody titers that develop after a vaccination have not been correlated with protection from influenza illness.

After 200 years, with our many advances in science, you would think that someone could develop a method to protect babies and adults from infectious disease other than injecting them with animal cells, stray viruses and toxic chemicals.

How can this be called “harmless”? Why do we call it “health and prevention”? """


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marplots said:
I'm no bio-chemist, but are you saying that vaccines against Polio, Measles and so on do not help prevent those diseases? Or that small-pox wasn't eradicated by way of vaccination?

I'd think the arguments would be over in light of the history on the subject. And while we are at it, where's the fake vaccine for HIV? I suppose in that case, the Great Medical Conspiracy makes more money by selling another menu of drugs, so it wouldn't be cost effective to develop a vaccine.

You know what? This conspiracy weaving is fun!
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No, I don't believe for a second that Orthodox, Rockefellerian petro-chemicals are producing any kind of real immunity.

Diseases are eradicated through good food and safety practices. Diseases started to decline, BEFORE the introductions of vaccines.

No vaccine gives 100% protection, it is only minimal, if any at all, and it is definite, meaning the protection does not last forever and also does not offer natural immunity.

Vaccines against polio caused more polio than the actual virus.

Third world illness is from just that.. the third world..

Once people, in a society, sets up food and safety standards, start washing their hands/bodies with REAL soap(not petroleum) bathe and drink in pure water, not the toxic water in most cities, eat healthier foods... like raw and organic, getting enough exercise and sunlight, taking supplements if the body is deficient or if you know you haven't been eating right.

That is where real immunity is, not some toxic chemicals and a needle prick.

Anyone that believes they'll gain something by injecting these chemicals into their bodies, needs to take a basic course in chemistry.


"And while we are at it, where's the fake vaccine for HIV?"

What are you talking about here? are you referring to Bayer spreading aids knowingly?
 
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Can I ask if you're a doctor? Or if you have a background in medicine?
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Sure you can ask this, but I don't see how it is relevant, I am not the one advocating sticking deadly chemicals into women and/or children.

Doctor Snyderman is.

My credibility is not being checked here, it is hers.

I am not making any money about (for or against) vaccines, she is.
 
marplots said:
Great video. If I heard it right, thimerosal (the mercury containing preservative) was removed from vaccines and the rate of autism has increased?

Thimerosal prevents autism!

Now I need a website and a "click to purchase" link.
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Whoever said thimerosal was removed from vaccines is a liar.

It's been found, time and time again, in children and adult vaccines.

Not just Mercury, but ALUMINUM, FORMALDEHYDE.. etc etc
 
SaveAmericaFightNWO said:
Vaccines against polio caused more polio than the actual virus.
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That should be verifiable.

SaveAmericaFightNWO said:
Once people, in a society, sets up food and safety standards, start washing their hands/bodies with REAL soap(not petroleum) bathe and drink in pure water, not the toxic water in most cities, eat healthier foods... like raw and organic, getting enough exercise and sunlight, taking supplements if the body is deficient or if you know you haven't been eating right.
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Do you have a placebo condition in mind to test this experiment? My guess is that you would want a serious double blind in place to confirm the results.


I said --"And while we are at it, where's the fake vaccine for HIV?"

You asked --"What are you talking about here? are you referring to Bayer spreading aids knowingly?"

No, nothing to do with Bayer. I was just thinking that the vaccine conspiracy was missing an opportunity. After all, wasn't the idea that they fake up vaccines as a way to weaken otherwise healthy people so they will then become customers? (Reminds me of the Microsoft business model actually.) Forgive me if I misunderstood the thrust of your ideas.
 
SaveAmericaFightNWO said:
Good luck finding a study that uses an actual placebo. If you do find one of these rare studies, note the amount of time 2-4 weeks. Not long enough. People have admitted having kidney failure this year up to 8 weeks after vaxes. Cancers take much longer.
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Googled "vaccine double blind placebo" Roughly 2 million hits.

One of the first:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9040712
We conducted a multicenter, prospective, randomized, double-blind trial of influenza immunization in patients with relapsing/remitting MS. In the autumn of 1993, 104 patients at five MS centers received either standard influenza vaccine or placebo. Patients were followed for 6 months for evaluation of neurologic status and the occurrence of influenza
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Your turn: how did you determine that polio vaccine caused more polio than it prevented?

Show me the statistical study that polio was on the decline before the introduction of the vaccine?
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marplots said:
That should be verifiable.



Do you have a placebo condition in mind to test this experiment? My guess is that you would want a serious double blind in place to confirm the results.


I said --"And while we are at it, where's the fake vaccine for HIV?"

You asked --"What are you talking about here? are you referring to Bayer spreading aids knowingly?"

No, nothing to do with Bayer. I was just thinking that the vaccine conspiracy was missing an opportunity. After all, wasn't the idea that they fake up vaccines as a way to weaken otherwise healthy people so they will then become customers? (Reminds me of the Microsoft business model actually.) Forgive me if I misunderstood the thrust of your ideas.
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Where are the placebo studies that show that vaccines are safe and effective??



On another note:..
HIV has nothing to do with Bayer? wtf??

MSNBC reports Bayer knew they spread aids through their vaccines
youtube com/watch?v=wg-52mHIjhs
 
OK, I found some data for you on polio.
http://www.post-polio.org/ir-usa.html

You have to look into the page to find the data you want, but polio was not "trending downward" or "on the decline" before the vaccine was introduced in 1955. There were ups and downs, but not a significant trend downward. Then, suddenly, after the vaccine is introduced, the numbers fall off dramatically.

To say the vaccine caused more disease than it prevented seems incorrect.
 
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