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Amanda Knox guilty - all because of a cartwheel

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Mary_H said:
Well, Fulcanelli says the evidence PROVES Rudy did not lock the door, so I guess it must be in there.
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No. Stop right there! You said this:

There is no point to using the footprints as evidence Rudy didn't lock the door.

Fulcanelli said there's a pretty good reason for using the footprints as evidence. I agree with him and nobody in their right mind would take your groundless assertion seriously.
 
Mary_H said:
STILL haven't tried it yet, stilicho? What are you waiting for? Actually, what I said was, I can easily start my way out the door, remember it needs locking, and reach around and lock it without moving my feet; I do it all the time.

I then did a different test by standing at the hinge end, with my feet facing away from the door and turning to reach the keyhole. I did not keep my back to the door, as Fulcanelli suggested; no one would.
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You said you do this all the time. Do you? Or do you not?

How many times do you have to be asked a question before you'll answer it?
 
stilicho said:
No. Stop right there!
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In post #11561, Fulcanelli says, "The evidence proves he didn't take the phones. It also proves he didn't lock the door (perhaps you didn't read my earlier post)."

His earlier post is #11540, in which he also says the evidence proves Rudy did not lock the door.

You said this:

There is no point to using the footprints as evidence Rudy didn't lock the door.

Fulcanelli said there's a pretty good reason for using the footprints as evidence. I agree with him and nobody in their right mind would take your groundless assertion seriously.
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What question? I already said I do it all the time when I go out the door.

You STILL haven't tried it?
 
Mary_H said:
There is no point to using the footprints as evidence Rudy didn't lock the door. I can easily start my way out the door, remember it needs locking, and reach around and lock it without moving my feet; I do it all the time. No, I don't use a key, but if I were practiced enough, I would be able to do that, too.
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Wow.

Just, wow.

It's gems like these that keep me coming back to this thread.

So... if I'm to understand this. The guy has no problem leaving a dump in the toilet, handling her purse with his bloody hands, and leaving his footprints in blood in the first place, but somehow he's concerned enough about throwing investigators off regarding locking the door that he takes care not to double back with said bloody footprints?

Are you serious?
 
Fuji said:
Wow.

Just, wow.

It's gems like these that keep me coming back to this thread.

So... if I'm to understand this. The guy has no problem leaving a dump in the toilet, handling her purse with his bloody hands, and leaving his footprints in blood in the first place, but somehow he's concerned enough about throwing investigators off regarding locking the door that he takes care not to double back with said bloody footprints?

Are you serious?
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Who said anything about why he did it? I am simply demonstrating that the evidence does not prove that Rudy did not lock the door.
 
Fulcanelli said:
He claimed and has ALWAYS claimed, he spent the whole evening on his computer.
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Fulcanelli, you can turn on a sixpence .. but *not*, apparently, from the waist to lock a door. You are now claiming that Kate Mansey and 'Michael's' chums at the Mirror are fibbers. Better let stilicho know because he still thinks the content of that jackanory story is valid (p.292) :boggled:
 
nicole said:
Fulcanelli, you can turn on a sixpence .. but *not*, apparently, from the waist to lock a door.
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LOL! I see both Fulcanelli and stilicho have signed off, no doubt to spend the rest of the day trying the door-locking maneuver, and hoping that the subject will have changed by the time they get back. I will use this interval to take a walk on a beautiful spring day in Seattle. :)
 
Mary_H said:
Who said anything about why he did it? I am simply demonstrating that the evidence does not prove that Rudy did not lock the door.
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Well, as far as I can tell, no one else said anything about "why he did it". That's probably because no one else came up with such a ridiculous theory to explain the pattern of evidence. By offering up this absurd scenario for our perusal, you are the one who is implying Guede ever had any reasonable motive to behave in such a way
 
Mary_H said:
What question? I already said I do it all the time when I go out the door.
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I call shenanigans. You don't do it all the time when you go out the door. Nobody does. You're lying.

Footprints leading (only) away are indeed evidence that the person leaving the prints didn't lock the door. To claim they are not is to merely expose yourself to further ridicule.

This is not a question of whether an activity is possible; it's whether it's probable and whether it fits with the rest of the evidence. Clearly this particular activity does not, regardless of your efforts to establish lies as fact.
 
Did Guede not have blood on his hands/fingers when he left the bedroom?

I thought the door knob to the bedroom was clean, no fingerprints and no blood?
 
Mary_H said:
She wrote that after the interrogation. There is no way to tell whether she is responding to questioning that happened before or during the interrogation.
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I know. That's why I wrote "I belive" in my post.

I am not a police person and found myself questioning why Amanda did what she did upon entering her flat that morning. Her story alone doesn't make her guilty of Meredith's murder, however, it does raise questions.
 
If you are neither familiar with the key nor with the keyhole in which the key is supposed to fit in, it becomes even more implausible, that he didn`t turn around.
 
Mary_H said:
Thank you. :)



There is no point to using the footprints as evidence Rudy didn't lock the door. I can easily start my way out the door, remember it needs locking, and reach around and lock it without moving my feet; I do it all the time. No, I don't use a key, but if I were practiced enough, I would be able to do that, too.

I don't think the point of locking Meredith's door was to keep other people out; it was to keep Meredith in. He took her cell phones so she wouldn't call for help; he locked her door so she wouldn't go for help. He was hoping she was not dead.
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Wait...he didn't want her to die, so he locked the door and took her phones so she couldn't get help (and, ya know, not die)?

Srsly, Mary, the twists and twirls in your scenarios just crack me up
 
nicole said:
Fulcanelli, you can turn on a sixpence .. but *not*, apparently, from the waist to lock a door. You are now claiming that Kate Mansey and 'Michael's' chums at the Mirror are fibbers. Better let stilicho know because he still thinks the content of that jackanory story is valid (p.292) :boggled:
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It's not just simply turning at the waist. You would, in fact, be shifting your body weight, and your feet would, therefore, slip/slide at least a little. And since there's no evidence that this happened...

It's much easier to conclude that Amanda closed the door, since, ya know, we have her bloody footprint facing the door - exactly as one would expect to find from someone who closed/locked the door. Go figure :rolleyes:
 
Dont be silly Bob. Something incredibly unlikely could have happened and that means it did happen. Haven't you learned anything about how this works?
 
Fuji said:
Well, as far as I can tell, no one else said anything about "why he did it". That's probably because no one else came up with such a ridiculous theory to explain the pattern of evidence. By offering up this absurd scenario for our perusal, you are the one who is implying Guede ever had any reasonable motive to behave in such a way
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You guys certainly use a lot of pejoratives to dress up your non-arguments.

Maybe he did it instinctively, without thinking. As a basketball player, he has been well trained in how to move around without moving his feet, a/k/a traveling.
 
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