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Hi folks. Just one final note. As I said in an earlier post, I don't intend to get into the debates here, but only wanted to respond to criticisms of my credentials. In case anyone is concerned that I've found the nasty (and predictable) comments that provoked to be daunting, or intimidating, let me remind you that as a scientist I've regularly stood up in front of a dozen, or fifty, or a hundred people in dressed in suits to present and defend my work. These are people with decades of studies to prepare them to be qualified to critique technical work. That's the most fun part of the job, the exhilarating part after the grunt work of research. That rigorous process of continual challenge is the core of scientific research, and is a far, far cry from the unfortunate sophistry and scurrilous slams of the discussions here.

Which makes me wonder, out of those here who claim I don't have enough science in my site, or am not qualified because, gosh, DNA is complicated, how many of you have advanced technical degrees? Hmm? Quick show of hands! I didn't think so.

Hope you like my book. Bye.
 
It's not simply a matter of reaching the latch. It's a matter of reaching the latch, while balancing on the downstairs window-grill, through a hole in the window, while hanging onto the windowsill by his fingertips - all without cutting himself and/or disturbing the glass on the windowsill. This is what makes the "Rudy entered through the window" argument asinine. Sure. Rudy could reach the latch. I'm short and I could probably reach the latch. That's not the only issue here, there is far more to unlatching that window than just being able to reach the latch.

This argument is in Massei Report but the inability for Rudy to reach/open the latch and make it through the window was not included. The point Massei made is exactly as you note. In such a process glass would have fallen below or Rudy would have cut himself and there was no evidence of a wound.
 
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The instant attacks against Mark Waterbury were very predictable. This is a very common reaction for people to have when they are intimidated. It really shows the true nature of many of you on this thread. You all would have benefited from having an honest discussion with Mark. The truth certainly doesn't seem to be the goal of this thread. I am very happy to say that Mark is one of my excellent sources for information. If you choose not to engage in conversation with Mark, it's your loss.
 
The instant attacks against Mark Waterbury were very predictable. This is a very common reaction for people to have when they are intimidated. It really shows the true nature of many of you on this thread. You all would have benefited from having an honest discussion with Mark. The truth certainly doesn't seem to be the goal of this thread. I am very happy to say that Mark is one of my excellent sources for information. If you choose not to engage in conversation with Mark, it's your loss.

Hmm..
Mark was warmly welcomed and asked to clarify a few points from his website. He declined that welcoming and the chance to evidence his assertions. As such, he is no different than, well, you Bruce.
 
Although I do have access to the court documents, I certainly do not have authority to release them to the public at large, so am careful not to do so.

Who has the authority to supply them to you? Did you sign a contract when you accepted them? Who signed them over to you?

PDF's of the contract will be sufficient.
 
This argument is in Massei Report but the inability for Rudy to reach/open the latch and make it through the window was not included. The point Massei made is exactly as you note. In such a process glass would have fallen below or Rudy would have cut himself and there was no evidence of a wound.

Again, we find where all the details can be picked apart...but when put into the big picture, suddenly those pickings don't work.

Bruce has spent the last few weeks attempting to pick at the details, without looking at how those details fit into the big scheme. I.e. Rudy can reach, but it's unlikely that he could do so without knocking glass off the window sill. Rudy attempted to burglarize the room, but really, it was Filomena who made the mess and not Rudy looking for valuables.

As the Massei report relates, all these inconsistencies are settled if we accept that Rudy did not enter through the window, but rather Filomena's room was the result of a faked burglary.
 
I can't speak for Filomena. I can look at the pictures and say that it is very obvious that her room was not tidy.

Saying two completely contrary things in the same paragraph is not particularly helpful to your case.

Either:

'I can't speak for Filomena.'

or

'Her room was not [kept] tidy.'

Which is it?
 
Hmm..
Mark was warmly welcomed and asked to clarify a few points from his website. He declined that welcoming and the chance to evidence his assertions. As such, he is no different than, well, you Bruce.

It least Mark had the decency to be honest about it.
 
I am so tired of seeing this topic day after day. Can you folks just give it a REST?

This is the only place where the FOA is provided ample opportunity to provide their evidence under clear light. Each of the contrary advocates' sites typically ban those from the other side.

Of those not banned from posting on View From Wilmington or Bruce's site are Rose and ShuttIt. Most of those from the FOA advocacy group have been banned from the PMF although I don't know all of them from memory.

There is no other discussion group on the whole WWW that allows each side to rationally present their evidence or their opinions.

You have the option of ignoring reminders if they're clogging up your inbox. I imagine you object to the existence of the Bigfoot, ontological proofs of "god", and 9/11 conspiracy threads with the same vigour.
 
Hi folks. Just one final note. As I said in an earlier post, I don't intend to get into the debates here, but only wanted to respond to criticisms of my credentials. In case anyone is concerned that I've found the nasty (and predictable) comments that provoked to be daunting, or intimidating, let me remind you that as a scientist I've regularly stood up in front of a dozen, or fifty, or a hundred people in dressed in suits to present and defend my work. These are people with decades of studies to prepare them to be qualified to critique technical work. That's the most fun part of the job, the exhilarating part after the grunt work of research. That rigorous process of continual challenge is the core of scientific research, and is a far, far cry from the unfortunate sophistry and scurrilous slams of the discussions here.

Which makes me wonder, out of those here who claim I don't have enough science in my site, or am not qualified because, gosh, DNA is complicated, how many of you have advanced technical degrees? Hmm? Quick show of hands! I didn't think so.

Hope you like my book. Bye.

So you just stopped by to tell us how awesome you are and to buy your book?

How many degrees do I have to have to know that Amanda lied Patrick into jail?
 
The instant attacks against Mark Waterbury were very predictable. This is a very common reaction for people to have when they are intimidated. It really shows the true nature of many of you on this thread. You all would have benefited from having an honest discussion with Mark. The truth certainly doesn't seem to be the goal of this thread. I am very happy to say that Mark is one of my excellent sources for information. If you choose not to engage in conversation with Mark, it's your loss.

There were no attacks on Dr Waterbury. He was asked to produce his evidence. If he just wanted to pop in to announce a new book project, instead, then that's his problem and not yours.
 
The instant attacks against Mark Waterbury were very predictable. This is a very common reaction for people to have when they are intimidated. It really shows the true nature of many of you on this thread. You all would have benefited from having an honest discussion with Mark. The truth certainly doesn't seem to be the goal of this thread. I am very happy to say that Mark is one of my excellent sources for information. If you choose not to engage in conversation with Mark, it's your loss.

All I did was ask for evidence.

Hard to have a discussion with someone who says:

I don't intend to get into the debates here,
 
Mark is one of my excellent sources for information.

This piques my interest. I had thought you claimed to have information directly from primary sources. If Dr Waterbury is supplying you with information then how do you reconcile it with that you receive from individuals within the FOA group, the defence team, or Chris Mellas?

Can you provide us with all of your "excellent sources of information"?
 
Again, we find where all the details can be picked apart...but when put into the big picture, suddenly those pickings don't work.

Bruce has spent the last few weeks attempting to pick at the details, without looking at how those details fit into the big scheme. I.e. Rudy can reach, but it's unlikely that he could do so without knocking glass off the window sill. Rudy attempted to burglarize the room, but really, it was Filomena who made the mess and not Rudy looking for valuables.

As the Massei report relates, all these inconsistencies are settled if we accept that Rudy did not enter through the window, but rather Filomena's room was the result of a faked burglary.

I do not understand that part (much more to his argument than just this) of the Massei argument. The window has two panes. You throw a rock through the one on the right, reach in and open the one on the left and then pull yourself through the open side. It is not clear to me where you would encounter glass other than when you reach in the broken window. The glass should only be on the side of the windowsill with the broken window - not sure how it would get to the other side and it does not look like any glass is over there from Bruce's picture.

I need to think about your point about the details being picked apart that fit into the big scheme. I think of it as trying to understand and assess the foundation of the assertion being made.
 
The instant attacks against Mark Waterbury were very predictable. This is a very common reaction for people to have when they are intimidated. It really shows the true nature of many of you on this thread. You all would have benefited from having an honest discussion with Mark. The truth certainly doesn't seem to be the goal of this thread. I am very happy to say that Mark is one of my excellent sources for information. If you choose not to engage in conversation with Mark, it's your loss.


Which "instant attacks' and who exactly are "many" of us?

Please be explicit.

Internecine blog feuds seem to have been carried onto this board by people who became members expressly to participate in this thread. Some quite recently.

This seems to be more of the same.
 
I do not understand that part (much more to his argument than just this) of the Massei argument. The window has two panes. You throw a rock through the one on the right, reach in and open the one on the left and then pull yourself through the open side. It is not clear to me where you would encounter glass other than when you reach in the broken window. The glass should only be on the side of the windowsill with the broken window - not sure how it would get to the other side and it does not look like any glass is over there from Bruce's picture.

I need to think about your point about the details being picked apart that fit into the big scheme. I think of it as trying to understand and assess the foundation of the assertion being made.
It's one thing to assess the foundation - it's another to make assertions regarding the details that counter the main argument one is trying to support.

In this case, the main argument for Bruce is that Rudy entered via the window/that this was a burglary. He then presents the argument that Filomena was messy, and this is why there were clothes on the floor and thus why glass from the window was found on the clothes. However, this leaves a bit of a problem for the main argument - i.e. where is the evidence that Rudy went through Filomena's room looking for valuables?


Yes, if you're discussing only the actual entering of the window, it would be possible to do so without disturbing the glass on the sill. However, we must also take into account that Rudy necessarily grabbed onto the windowsill to pull himself up on the downstairs shutter. We also must realize that the glass shards would not have only been in front of the hole in the glass, instead they would have, to some extent, dispersed along the windowsill. Then we look at how Raffaele would have had to maneuver his arm, while holding himself against the wall using the windowsill to steady himself, so that he could reach the latch - or he would certainly have cut himself on the glass (or at least heavily risked it...much more likely that he was bracing himself, no?).

Then we have to account for the lack of glass in the garden from the window breaking - so something was in place to block the glass from dispersing to the garden at the time the rock broke the glass. Unlike so many would, apparently, like to believe...glass shards don't fly only forward or fall directly down when a glass pane is shattered. The lack of glass in the garden is telling.

Now, we have to account for the lack of marks on the wall from Rudy bracing himself on it. Nor are there marks from when he pulled himself up/over the windowsill. Again, this is all done without so much as disturbing the glass shards on the windowsill.

Add the lack of shoeprints in the garden, lack of garden dirt in Filomena's room, apparent lack of searching through Filomena's room, etc and the Rudy as a burglar scenario just doesn't match what evidence we have.
 
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Who has the authority to supply them to you? Did you sign a contract when you accepted them? Who signed them over to you?

PDF's of the contract will be sufficient.

I would like to know the same thing about the mysterious second statement Fulcanelli received from an inside source.
 
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