Amanda Knox guilty - all because of a cartwheel

[RoseMontague]

I don't know, but the photograph is named "broken_pipe.jpg but there isn't a pipe in the photograph, broken or not.

http://www.injusticeinperugia.org/TheKnife.html

HAHAHA. That is really funny then.

 

[quadraginta]

Sorry, I don't do spoonfeeding.

It seems like a reasonable question. Why are you dodging it?

It doesn't require criminal genius to try and deflect attention and shift blame. Two year olds do it all the time. They also fail because their efforts are not plausible.

You're the one asserting, "It was awfully clever of Knox and Sollecito to stage the break-in in just such a way as would tend to incriminate Guede." Why can't you explain just why that is, as opposed to it being a desperate, failed attempt to avoid suspicion. Who else could a staged break-in have incriminated?

If they had been "clever" their efforts to stage the break-in would have been a bit more plausible. If they had been "awfully clever" there wouldn't have been so many other inconsistencies in the scene, and in their stories.

 

[Matthew Best]

In other words, you can't answer the question.

So, that's what it means! Thanks!

 

[RoseMontague]

I wonder why Bruce cropped that picture. Is he not buying the "busted pipe" "proof" either? Interesting.

 

[Bruce Fischer]

Perhaps a European poster can clarify this, but from what I can figure out, Dixan detergent is for washing machine use, not dishwasher use.

They manufacture both.

 

[Bruce Fischer]

I wonder why Bruce cropped that picture. Is he not buying the "busted pipe" "proof" either? Interesting.

It's a plastic pipe and part of it is missing. The elbow joint came off. I cropped the photo to highlight the detergent.

 

[Agatha]

Dixan powder is for washing machines, for washing clothes. It's marketed as Persil in Germany, Le Chat in France, Wipp in Spain. Henkel's dishwashing brands are Pril and Somat.

I found this out in seconds on google*; I would have thought that the people behind injusticeinperugia.org would have done some elementary research before asserting that Dixan powder would have been used in a dishwasher.

It's poor research like this that leads me to question the assertions and conclusions made by some of the Amanda-is-innocent faction. If they are wrong on something so obvious, what else are they wrong about?

*I also emailed a friend of mine who lives in Latina in Italy, and asked her if Dixan was laundry or dishwasher detergent. She confirmed that it is laundry detergent.
ETA: http://addmorepl.com/Dixan.html

 

[RoseMontague]

It's a plastic pipe and part of it is missing. The elbow joint came off. I cropped the photo to highlight the detergent.

It is the "trap" underneath the sink that "came off" or came "loose" that caused that major water spill. If I recall that is the drain part where the water spilled is limited to the amount of water in the sink, or if the water is running you simply turn off the faucet at the sink to stop it.

Bruce, you don't consider that photo "posed" in any way?

 

[Bruce Fischer]

Bruce, maybe you should indicate with a footnote those passages of your posts which we should take more or less seriously.

This is certainly an interesting group. Kermit can put ridiculous photos on here that are clearly based on no facts and you all remain silent.

I make one off the cuff comment and you all go insane over it.

Sarcastic comments are made on this board in every other post. I make one comment with a touch of sarcasm and boom! - everyone thinks they have the ammunition to discredit me. It will take a lot more than that

 

[Alt+F4]

They manufacture both.

Evidence?

 

[Bruce Fischer]

It is the "trap" underneath the sink that "came off" or came "loose" that caused that major water spill. If I recall that is the drain part where the water spilled is limited to the amount of water in the sink, or if the water is running you simply turn off the faucet at the sink to stop it.

Bruce, you don't consider that photo "posed" in any way?

Not at all. Would you like me to include the entire photo? I will be happy to make that edit. You can see the entire photo on foa. I credit the photo to that site.

There is nothing at all to hide. The pipe is clearly not in working order.

 

[Dan O.]

HAHAHA. That is really funny then.

If you bothered to find the whole image, the black edge on top of the right edge is the pipe from the sink. The trap is completely missing.

Do you need the link or can you find it yourself?

 

[Bruce Fischer]

Evidence?

Go to their site and do the research. I am not the one looking for the answer. I already have it. I already gave you the manufacturer name. They have a website.

This is not really a major point.

 

[Agatha]

Just do a GIS for Dixan: there are pictures of boxes identical to the one under Raffaelle's sink and guess what? Laundry detergent.

http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&source=imghp&q=dixan&gbv=2&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=

 

[Bruce Fischer]

Dixan powder is for washing machines, for washing clothes. It's marketed as Persil in Germany, Le Chat in France, Wipp in Spain. Henkel's dishwashing brands are Pril and Somat.

I found this out in seconds on google*; I would have thought that the people behind injusticeinperugia.org would have done some elementary research before asserting that Dixan powder would have been used in a dishwasher.

It's poor research like this that leads me to question the assertions and conclusions made by some of the Amanda-is-innocent faction. If they are wrong on something so obvious, what else are they wrong about?

*I also emailed a friend of mine who lives in Latina in Italy, and asked her if Dixan was laundry or dishwasher detergent. She confirmed that it is laundry detergent.
ETA: http://addmorepl.com/Dixan.html

I could actually have this wrong. The Manufacturer does make both types of detergent. I will look into it. JREF might actually get credit for an edit on my site.

It's not a major issue but I will be happy to edit this if I am incorrect.

 

[Kermit]

Dishwasher?

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Why don't we ask Hilades1 to break the news to Bruce that he screwed up?

 

[RoseMontague]

If you bothered to find the whole image, the black edge on top of the right edge is the pipe from the sink. The trap is completely missing.

Do you need the link or can you find it yourself?

No, I remember seeing the image shortly after it posted. I even showed it to a friend that does plumbing work. That piece rarely comes loose or falls off unless it is intentional. If it is loose the most water you get is a drip. He normally gets calls to check the trap when someone loses their ring or other jewelry down the sink. Sometimes it can still be recovered in the trap. It is a drain pipe and the only water pressure you have is from the water in the sink.

 

[Dan O.]

Evidence?

The box just happens to be the same size commonly used for automatic dishwashing detergent and even has the small spout found on such products. Could someone confirm if small boxes for clothes washing detergent comes in a similar box with that kind of spout?

It would not be unreasonable for a company to exploit their brand recognition to expand into other products.

 

[Alt+F4]

Go to their site and do the research. I am not the one looking for the answer. I already have it. I already gave you the manufacturer name. They have a website.

I did and no where do they say that they make dishwashing detergent under the brand name Dixan.

This is not really a major point.

Then why did you go through such an effort to explain why there might be bleach on the large knife?

Everything that was washed in Raffaele's dishwasher would show traces of bleach.

Evidence?

 

[Agatha]

Henkel.it do make dishwashing liquid:http://www.henkel.it/cps/rde/xchg/henkel_iti/hs.xsl/94_ITI_HTML.htm but the powder, as Kermit has shown, is for clothes.

Not remotely derogatory, just fact checking.

Edit: I see you edited out your accusation that my comment was derogatory; thank you.