Amanda Knox guilty - all because of a cartwheel

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HumanityBlues said:
He did recant it, but you have to wonder if he didn't actually tell the reporter this. It is pretty damn specific. If you believe he didn't say it, maybe someone can explain how this got so amazingly lost in translation.
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Because it was a paid interview...he was paid 70,000 euros for it. When a paper is paying that much money for an interview they can write what they damn well please, embellish as much as they choose and take poetic license to sensationalise the story as much as possible un order to get a good return in their investment.
 
sharp point

shuttlt said:
As for the shape of the blade, I am a lot less sure.
Really Kermit should be doing this.
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shuttIt,

I cannot see the tip of the knife; it is in a shadow. Not all serrated knives have a blunt end (see photo). I take no position on whether or not a serrated knife could have made the third wound.
 

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Bene spoke to Spezi

Fulcanelli said:
Francesca Bene denies she ever said this to Preston. The only source the Bene ever claimed to be mistreated is, surprise surprise, Douglas Preston.
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Fulcanelli,

Francesca Bene said it to Mario Spezi, not to Douglas Preston. It is found in “The Monster of Florence.”
 
halides1 said:
Fiona,

If Giobbi did not call them in but he testified that he did, is he a liar or is there another explanation.
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He didn't testify he did. He testified he told 'someone' to call them in. Doesn't mean it happened. What is clear is that Amanda was under the impression she didn't have to go in and that she went because she wanted to go and din't want to be at home alone.
 
Fulcanelli they can read all this in this thread any time they want. Why indulge this?
 
Fulcanelli said:
Because it was a paid interview...he was paid 70,000 euros for it. When a paper is paying that much money for an interview they can write what they damn well please, embellish as much as they choose and take poetic license to sensationalise the story as much as possible un order to get a good return in their investment.
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So you're accusing the author of being a liar. Why haven't the Italian police sued her for defamation? If Mignini can sue the West Seattle Herald and ask that it be shut down, surely it would be very easy to sue Antonia Hoyle.

is Antonia Hoyle a liar?
 
still a mystery

stilicho said:
Can we conclude the subject of the Drawer Of Knifey-Spooney Things first? You left it dangling without agreeing that there is no deep mystery, as FOA has alleged for at least a year, about why the police thought that the knife they took was the only possible one there.
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Stilicho,

We are not in agreement about several aspects of the knife, as my other comments attest. To mention to just one of them, why did the policeman invoke “police intuition” (Time magazine) if there were only one knife?
 
HumanityBlues said:
So you're accusing the author of being a liar. Why haven't the Italian police sued her for defamation? If Mignini can sue the West Seattle Herald and ask that it be shut down, surely it would be very easy to sue Antonia Hoyle.

is Antonia Hoyle a liar?
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See the discussion about the different british newspapers and their respectability much earlier in this thread
 
HumanityBlues said:
So you're accusing the author of being a liar. Why haven't the Italian police sued her for defamation? If Mignini can sue the West Seattle Herald and ask that it be shut down, surely it would be very easy to sue Antonia Hoyle.

is Antonia Hoyle a liar?
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Patrick says he never said it.

Is Patrick a liar?

And are you concluding that because the police are not sueing her for defamation, that means it must be true? Then, to follow your own logic, the fact Amanda is Amanda is possibly being charged for defamation and her parents are being charged with defamation for repeating her claim in the media of being hit, then her claim of being hit must not be true, right?
 
credibility is a two-way street

Moss,

I wonder why you give such complete credibility to the police, given that they lied about not asking to interview Amanda on the 5th of November and about the bleach receipt, to name but two.
 
Fulcanelli said:
Patrick says he never said it.

Is Patrick a liar?

And are you concluding that because the police are not sueing her for defamation, that means it must be true? Then, to follow your own logic, the fact Amanda is Amanda is possibly being charged for defamation and her parents are being charged with defamation for repeating her claim in the media of being hit, then her claim of being hit must not be true, right?
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No, I just find it rather curious that everyone and their mother in Italy gets sued for defamation in connection with this case--so I would understand if Patrick is hit, why he would think twice about stating it publicly. So I can understand why Bene would say the conversation never happened. I don't think Spezi made up that conversation. It seems like it's pretty common in Italy to say one thing publicly to get it out there and the pretend you never said it.
 
halides1 said:
Moss,

I wonder why you give such complete credibility to the police, given that they lied about not asking to interview Amanda on the 5th of November and about the bleach receipt, to name but two.
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How did they lie about not asking to interview Amanda when Amanda herself says they didn't ask her? Is Amanda also telling lies then?

What bleach receipt?
 
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