Amanda Knox guilty - all because of a cartwheel

Status
Not open for further replies.
lane99 said:
Per-woo-gia Information Follies, I presume. Which is exactly where this kind of claptrap belongs. I believe somethere there has applied to write their doctoral thesis on how doing stretching exercises in public is directly correlated with being being a homocidal rapist.

But, as it turns out, you didn't even need the cartwheels and eating pizza did you? You could tell she was guilty just by looking at her. Good for you.
Click to expand...


Oh, goody. Did the cartwheels come back around.

"It's like deja vu all over again."
 
lane99 said:
Per-woo-gia Information Follies, I presume. Which is exactly where this kind of claptrap belongs. I believe somethere there has applied to write their doctoral thesis on how doing stretching exercises in public is directly correlated with being being a homocidal rapist.

But, as it turns out, you didn't even need the cartwheels and eating pizza did you? You could tell she was guilty just by looking at her. Good for you.
Click to expand...

Edited by LashL: 
Removed breaches of Rule 0 and Rule 12


PS: Reality check...she was doing far more then stretching. Does that make her guilty? No. It just goes into the pot with everything else...and there's a lot, it's a rich recipe.

The debate on this site began under an ignorant premise 'Amanda Knox guilty - all because of a cartwheel'. Since that time intelligent people have moved the debate forward, despite the best efforts of some.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Fulcanelli said:
By the way...bombshell, Raffaele's 4 cm pocket knife, his other pocket knife, was never recovered...it disappeared. It's dimensions are only known via witness testimony, those who had seen it before it went missing.
Click to expand...

Was that the knife that left the 9.5 and 14 cm outlines in blood on Meredith's bed sheet?
 
Last edited:
quadraginta said:
...either your grasp of what "circumstantial evidence" really means is weak...

It is not only possible, but outside of TV dramas quite common for circumstantial evidence to suffice to establish beyond reasonable doubt who is responsible for a crime...
Click to expand...

Please re-read my post. There shouldn't be anything there that would give a lucid person cause to believe that I doubt that circumstantial evidence can establish who is responsible for a crime.

That you apparently interpreted what I wrote as suggesting that every and all details of a crime- regardless of how insignificant they may be- must be proved before a guilty verdict is legitmate suggests you didn't understand what I wrote.

The point is a guilty verdict is not legitimate if there is not a credible scenario- to the exclusion of any alternative plausible scenario(s)- on the essential points of the crime charged. The reason for this is circumstantial evidence only infers guilt. It can never establish it with certainty, as direct evidence can.

If you dispute this, let's just agree to disagree. Because I will have concluded you don't have a good enough grasp of the concepts under discussion for further discussion to be worthwhile.
 
Alt+F4 said:
Why would someone clean a kitchen knife with bleach? Oh yeah, in an attempt to destroy evidence on it.
Click to expand...

It is only the prosecutions claim that the knives were cleaned with bleach to justify why they found no blood and only a trace of Meredith's DNA on the kitchen knife.

They had to disassemble the pocket knife to test the internal surfaces that were impossible to clean without destroying the knife. No evidence of Meredith was found on either pocket knife.
 
lane99 said:
Per-woo-gia Information Follies, I presume. Which is exactly where this kind of claptrap belongs. I believe somethere there has applied to write their doctoral thesis on how doing stretching exercises in public is directly correlated with being being a homocidal rapist.

But, as it turns out, you didn't even need the cartwheels and eating pizza did you? You could tell she was guilty just by looking at her. Good for you.
Click to expand...

Who said anything about guilt? There is something jarring about Amanda's court behaviour. It's only evident in the video clips.

By the way, doing stretching exercises in public is a far cry from turning cartwheels in a police station. The mountain of evidence that convicted AK is completely separate from her behaviour issues. I'm sure she is quite a decent individual once you get past all that convicted murderer nonsense.
 
Dan O. said:
It's been answered and you've been told it's been answered. If you continue to be a pest you'll just be put on ignore with Kermit.
Click to expand...

Odd that no one else has seen it then.

Dan You brought it up then avoided explaining it's significance, dropped out of the thread for awhile now you say you already explained it but no one in this thread has seen it. Are we all blind or are you misrepresenting your position?

A simple post number will be fine.

Putting me on ignore will be an admission to all that you did not and cannot explain what you meant.
 
Dan O. said:
Was that the knife that left the 9.5 and 14 cm outlines in blood on Meredith's bed sheet?
Click to expand...

The fatal wound is compatible with the kitchen knife. The shallow 4 cm deep wound is compatible with Raffaele's missing pocket knife.

The stain on the sheet is a problem as it matches neither (knives). But in honesty, I have not as yet seen the judge's answer to this as I've not yet read that part of the report. I'm keen to to see it...as at present, this is the one outstanding problem I'm struggling with and have been for some days.
 
Dan O. said:
It is only the prosecutions claim that the knives were cleaned with bleach to justify why they found no blood and only a trace of Meredith's DNA on the kitchen knife.

They had to disassemble the pocket knife to test the internal surfaces that were impossible to clean without destroying the knife. No evidence of Meredith was found on either pocket knife.
Click to expand...

It's not the prosecution's claim. It's the claim of the scientist that tested the knife.

'Either' pocket knife? I just told you, they don't have both pocket knives...one's missing.
 
tsig said:
Odd that no one else has seen it then.

Dan You brought it up then avoided explaining it's significance, dropped out of the thread for awhile now you say you already explained it but no one in this thread has seen it. Are we all blind or are you misrepresenting your position?

A simple post number will be fine.

Putting me on ignore will be an admission to all that you did not and cannot explain what you meant.
Click to expand...


I didn't see it. I saw Bigfoot strolling by...but no sign of Dan_O's post where he explains what he sees in the photos that required turning them about. It's possible we missed it...possible...but it leaves one to question exactly why he's so shy about telling us where it is and threatening to put people on ignore for asking him.

It's all rather a mystery. As big a mystery as...well, what he supposedly said in his reply to the original question.

It's funny that, you know Charlie has disappeared too...ever since he was asked to post his data...strangeness all round. Anyone would thing people had something to hide.
 
tsig said:
Odd that no one else has seen it then.

Dan You brought it up then avoided explaining it's significance, dropped out of the thread for awhile now you say you already explained it but no one in this thread has seen it. Are we all blind or are you misrepresenting your position?

A simple post number will be fine.

Putting me on ignore will be an admission to all that you did not and cannot explain what you meant.
Click to expand...

Ditto. I haven't seen the explanation either.
 
Fulcanelli said:
I didn't see it. I saw Bigfoot strolling by...but no sign of Dan_O's post where he explains what he sees in the photos that required turning them about. It's possible we missed it...possible...but it leaves one to question exactly why he's so shy about telling us where it is and threatening to put people on ignore for asking him.

It's all rather a mystery. As big a mystery as...well, what he supposedly said in his reply to the original question.

It's funny that, you know Charlie has disappeared too...ever since he was asked to post his data...strangeness all round. Anyone would thing people had something to hide.
Click to expand...

Careful or you'll be on Dans' ignore list. It would be funny if he put us all on ignore and wound up talking to himself although he seems to be doing that anyway.
 
Ditto on the whole Dan O. thing. Hints, but no answer. Can we all just put Dan O. on ignore instead?
 
Last edited:
There look to me to be a couple of diagonal objects that could be small knives in the bottom right of the photograph between the bread knife and the wooden spoon. I'm having a hard time interpreting the shadows though and what I think I'm seeing doesn't quite make sense - for one thing the bread knife doesn't seem to be casting a shadow on it.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Back
Top Bottom