Toddler Dies After Mistaking Gun For Realistic Wii Controller

[babbits]

Well, too bad for the little tyke. But what chance did he have to grow up sane and a contributing person? So maybe it's just Darwinism at work.

Gun regulations can only go so far. You can't legislate stupidity out of the system.

 

[ServiceSoon]

Where is your evidence that a majority of Americans are pro-gun? There are many well-funded lobbies that represent minority views.

There are a few well funded anti-gun lobbiest. I know who funds them. Do you?

So you think a majority of Americans supported prohibition?

Clearly a majority of americans were against the government negotiating drug prices for Medicare part D. Otherwise who would fund the PhRMA lobby? Clearly as they are a well funded lobby group they have broad support.

This is how we know the very broad support americans have for the teaching of creationism vs science in science classrooms. Look at the funding of say the discovery institute vs that National Center for Science Education.

Clearly skeptics need to shut up and listen to the will of the people.

The Pharmaceutical Lobby (PL) is a completely different animal than the NRA. PL receives their funds from the sale of their products and don't require donations from groups for the sole purpose of lobbying congress for their benefit.

It’s interesting that you mention the 18th amendment. I see similar thinking between its advocates, who were uneducated religious fanatics and the anti-gun lobby. I can’t comment how popular the 18th amendment was when it was passed because I’ve never researched that before. Can you comment on this? And if it wasn't popular how did it pass? I know that the political environment of today is different than that of some 100 years ago. That could be a major contributing factor.

 

[grunion]

There are a few well funded anti-gun lobbiest. I know who funds them. Do you?

Is that the evidence supporting your statement?

 

[E.J.Armstrong]

This is just part of the regular cull of children that the US deems to be acceptable in order to maintain its violent addiction to weapons.

If you demand a gun culture you get dead children. In other words if you don't look after your children you shouldn't be allowed to have them. All gun owners should be sterilised by law and kept in a bullet proof container with other gun nuts for company - oh and plenty of bullets.

That would solve the problem very quickly. Happy days.

 

[Sword_Of_Truth]

This is just part of the regular cull of children that the US deems to be acceptable in order to maintain its violent addiction to weapons.

If you demand a gun culture you get dead children. In other words if you don't look after your children you shouldn't be allowed to have them. All gun owners should be sterilised by law and kept in a bullet proof container with other gun nuts for company - oh and plenty of bullets.

That would solve the problem very quickly. Happy days.

I'd bet you'd be just filled with righteous anger if I told you there was a childrens television program that promoted racist cannibalism, wouldn't you?

Cuz, ya know... leaving guns around is bad, "culture of death", "addiction to weapons", blah blah blah. But telling children to target a specific ethnic group and eat them, that's just pure evil. Right?

 

[ServiceSoon]

Is that the evidence supporting your statement?

Joyce Foundation & George Soros is a good place to start. This fact has caused the anti-gun funders to change their donation strategy...they want to be hidden.

I bet Ron Paul has raised more money in campaign funds in one quarter than the Brady Campaign "to take away everybodies guns" brings in donations every year. I'm sorry if you don't agree that anti-gun organizations are small time. It's a fact.

 

[grunion]

Joyce Foundation & George Soros is a good place to start. This fact has caused the anti-gun funders to change their donation strategy...they want to be hidden.

I bet Ron Paul has raised more money in campaign funds in one quarter than the Brady Campaign "to take away everybodies guns" brings in donations every year. I'm sorry if you don't agree that anti-gun organizations are small time. It's a fact.

You stated that the majority of Americans are "pro-gun." For some reason you think that George Soros funding some gun control group is evidence for that fact. I fail to see the connection.

 

[fullflavormenthol]

I really hate this anti-gun owner nonsense. My parents had guns around when I was a child, and passed the age of 6 they didn't keep them hidden from me. I knew about them, and I knew they were dangerous. At age 12 I was taught on a .22 rifle, and I was a pretty good shot. Right now I don't own a gun, but I may one day purchase one (my fiance was raised to be afraid of them, and out of respect I don't keep them). I still find myself angry at the characterization of people like me as "gun nuts". Like I am some sort of knuckle dragging moron without an education who votes the big R 100% of the time. I especially find the idea that I should be sterilized to be sick.

 

[Scott Haley]

I hate it that these news stories claim to know that the child mistook a gun for a Wii controller. We can't know what she was thinking. Every Wii controller I've heard of is made of lightweight plastic. I think that even a three year old would notice that the real gun was a lot heavier. Does anyone know how hard it is to pull the trigger on a Smith & Wesson .380? Could a 3 year old girl do it?

 

[Drudgewire]

My understanding is that some states have no special requirements for concealed carry. This was an issue a few years ago with the idea of permitting someone with a concealed carry license in one state to carry concealed in any state that issues concealed carry permits.

You have to go through training (such as it is) to get your home license. Once you have that you can apply for others and proof you've been issued one is usually all you need (I have a New Hampshire license in addition to the SC one I went to class for. It increased the number of states I can carry in from 14 to 30).

It works on the principle of reciprocity, and sometimes it's weird. For instance, I couldn't carry in Georgia with my SC Permit because we don't have reciprocity with them, but they do with New Hampshire so now I'm legally strapped when I cross the border.

 

[ponderingturtle]

The Pharmaceutical Lobby (PL) is a completely different animal than the NRA. PL receives their funds from the sale of their products and don't require donations from groups for the sole purpose of lobbying congress for their benefit.

Bull. I named a very specific lobbying organization, it sells no products at all, it just lobby's on behalf of the beliefs of its contributes. Remember corporations are people too. Look it must be popular because all the attentions lawmakers give to it. How can anything

It’s interesting that you mention the 18th amendment. I see similar thinking between its advocates, who were uneducated religious fanatics and the anti-gun lobby. I can’t comment how popular the 18th amendment was when it was passed because I’ve never researched that before. Can you comment on this? And if it wasn't popular how did it pass? I know that the political environment of today is different than that of some 100 years ago. That could be a major contributing factor.

It passed like all constitutional amendments pass by actions of lawmaker.

And of course the run on guns a year ago because Obama was elected was clearly a result of highly educated people with a profound understanding of public policy.

 

[ponderingturtle]

I really hate this anti-gun owner nonsense. My parents had guns around when I was a child, and passed the age of 6 they didn't keep them hidden from me. I knew about them, and I knew they were dangerous. At age 12 I was taught on a .22 rifle, and I was a pretty good shot. Right now I don't own a gun, but I may one day purchase one (my fiance was raised to be afraid of them, and out of respect I don't keep them). I still find myself angry at the characterization of people like me as "gun nuts". Like I am some sort of knuckle dragging moron without an education who votes the big R 100% of the time. I especially find the idea that I should be sterilized to be sick.

What lame parents, they should have given you your own guns at the age of 2 clearly.

 

[ponderingturtle]

You have to go through training (such as it is) to get your home license. Once you have that you can apply for others and proof you've been issued one is usually all you need (I have a New Hampshire license in addition to the SC one I went to class for. It increased the number of states I can carry in from 14 to 30).

It works on the principle of reciprocity, and sometimes it's weird. For instance, I couldn't carry in Georgia with my SC Permit because we don't have reciprocity with them, but they do with New Hampshire so now I'm legally strapped when I cross the border.

So as you know all state laws for guns could you make it clear what states require different levels of education for gun ownership and concealed carry?

 

[Drudgewire]

So as you know all state laws for guns could you make it clear what states require different levels of education for gun ownership and concealed carry?

I'm almost positive you need some training regardless of where you live. Even Florida, who has by far the least restrictive laws, at least requires you to have prior military experience or taken a hunter safety course prior to recieving a CWP if you don't take their class or one by a certified trainer.

I've been wrong before, so if someone can provide evidence of a state that will just hand one over without any training feel free. v

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[ponderingturtle]

I'm almost positive you need some training regardless of where you live. Even Florida, who has by far the least restrictive laws, at least requires you to have prior military experience or taken a hunter safety course prior to recieving a CWP if you don't take their class or one by a certified trainer.

I've been wrong before, so if someone can provide evidence of a state that will just hand one over without any training feel free. v[qimg]http://www.lethalwrestling.com/upload/shobon.gif[/qimg]v

And a basic hunting safety course is all you think people need for concealed carry?

 

[Drudgewire]

And a basic hunting safety course is all you think people need for concealed carry?

You also have to convince your local law enforcement agency you deserve one and have no criminal record as well as being fully aware of the laws of your state. And you're still bound by the same laws as everyone else, it's not a license to kill or anything.

Those who are going to break the law with a concealed handgun aren't going to worry about a piece of paper that says they can have one.

So to answer your question: Yes, yes I do.

 

[NWO Sentryman]

This is just part of the regular cull of children that the US deems to be acceptable in order to maintain its violent addiction to weapons.

What the? When was the last major killing? V tech, and the killer was a nut. Oh, that must describe all gun enthusiasts and owners.

If you demand a gun culture you get dead children.

No, you don't. In fact, most of the shootings have happened in gun free zones.

In other words if you don't look after your children you shouldn't be allowed to have them.

how is buying a gun for hunting or protecting your home even comparable to child neglect?

All gun owners should be sterilised by law and kept in a bullet proof container with other gun nuts for company - oh and plenty of bullets.

Great, advocating mass murder. Just like the Jews or the Gypsies, yeah that meant peace on the streets of Nazi Germany .

That would solve the problem very quickly. Happy days.

em, it wouldn't. It would just create tyranny. If you outlaw guns, only criminals and tyrants would have them.

 

[ponderingturtle]

You also have to convince your local law enforcement agency you deserve one and have no criminal record as well as being fully aware of the laws of your state.

I thought must issue states got rid of the whole convincing local law enforcement thing. And what are your state laws relevant if you are in another state?

And you're still bound by the same laws as everyone else, it's not a license to kill or anything.

Except in states that are such strong believers in proper American masculinity that they know that it is wrong to ask people to avoid conflict.

Those who are going to break the law with a concealed handgun aren't going to worry about a piece of paper that says they can have one.

 

[ponderingturtle]

What the? When was the last major killing? V tech, and the killer was a nut. Oh, that must describe all gun enthusiasts and owners.

No the one on the army base.

No, you don't. In fact, most of the shootings have happened in gun free zones.

Like army bases.

em, it wouldn't. It would just create tyranny. If you outlaw guns, only criminals and tyrants would have them.

And yet we find that unconvincing argument for bombs and such. Until I have a nuclear weapon to get into the mutually assured destruction game america is pure tyranny.

 

[NWO Sentryman]

No the one on the army base.

I stand corrected, but someone with a gun stopped him.

Like army bases.

the person who put a stop to him was armed.

And yet we find that unconvincing argument for bombs and such. Until I have a nuclear weapon to get into the mutually assured destruction game america is pure tyranny.

Dudalb, do you have the facepalm picture you usually use?