What about this crop circle?

[tsig]

Avoid detection by who? Our ego-self? That part of us is a relatively small and weak part. There is a deep collective part of us that is right under our noses, so to speak. That's where our psi comes from.

Sounds like we're all walking-around wells of stupid.

 

[tsig]

Limbo stop smoking pot would help you realize how deluded you are.

I'm waiting for some hard sheep/goat porn.

 

[Elizabeth I]

Or, "Loki did it!" Or maybe Coyote...

Coyote creates crop circles now ?
wait
how does he do it in the Uk then, theres no coyotes here

maybe foxes

No, no, just the "cheating on tests" part.

Sounds like we're all walking-around wells of stupid.

Well, some people might fit that description...

 

[tsig]

How do ancient world trickster Gods relate to crop circles
am I missing something here, what do Loki or Seth have to do with anything ?

Seth is the sheep Loki is the goat.

They appear at night (no rain) and walk (never pooping) in arch typical circles producing images of our deepest unconsciousness.

 

[Stray Cat]

I'm waiting for some hard sheep/goat porn.

The sheep only use their super powers for pointless reasons...

 

[Limbo]

If there is no way within your explanation to determine which is 'genuine' and which is 'hoaxed' (both of these terms are incorrect, I'm only using them because they are terms you have used because that's what crop circles bleevers call them). Because if there is no way to tell the difference, for all intents and purposes, there is no difference and therefore, why invent an explanation in the first place unless it's some sort of religiously based justification for something mundane that you don't understand because you have been taken in by the biased and blind crop circle researchers who have gone before you?

If the crop circle phenomenon is psychic, paranormal, and archetypal then it is interactive with and responsive to people and so it is inevitably elusive. Just when you think you have it nailed down, things will change. That's the way it is. No ones psi is an island. IMO you will never nail down the paranormal because it can't be institutionalized, can't be categorized, can't be disproved or proved. Only experienced.

That's twice now you've used the word invent in a wrong way, or at least in a way inapplicable to me. I'm not inventing an explanation or a religiously based justification. I'm trying to understand my paranormal experiences. Some of which circlemakers claim to have. So naturally, the trail lead there.

 

[Sledge]

Could you please tell us what "paranormal" thing you think is happening?

 

[Stray Cat]

If the crop circle phenomenon is psychic, paranormal, and archetypal then it is interactive with and responsive to people and so it is inevitably elusive. Just when you think you have it nailed down, things will change. That's the way it is. You will never nail down the paranormal because it can't be institutionalized, can't be categorized, can't be disproved or proved.

So there is no way to tell if any paranormal presence it at work, no external physical evidence if it's existence and no difference between the resulting art work produced?
So for all intents and purposes it doesn't exist.

That's twice now you've used the word invent in a wrong way, or at least inapplicable to me. I'm not inventing an explanation or a religiously based justification. I'm trying to understand my paranormal experiences. Some of which circlemakers claim to have. So naturally, the trail lead there.

Maybe you're trying too hard to understand your paranormal experiences instead of finding an alternative reason for why you considered your experiences to be paranormal in the first place?
Or maybe you already conclusively ruled out the mundane?
I'd be interested to hear about it either way.

 

[supergreen]

I made no claim that crop circles were not man made. Anyone can claim authorship of a crop circle. Testing on controlled crop circle formation by mechanical means showed none
of the evidence I listed. WC Levengood's findings have been duplicated my list to follow.
There is no known film of crop artists creating in canola crops. Crop formation times were
not included on my list nor were complex lays which are also unduplicated by artists either filmed observed or in anyway acertained authorship.

 

[I Ratant]

Spawning time in La-la land, I see.

 

[tsig]

The sheep only use their super powers for pointless reasons...

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Oh noes! The rabbit is the archtypical symbol of fertility. By jumping up at the sheep in that way it is suggestive of the fertility act.

AAH is -----> well you know the way.

 

[Stray Cat]

I made no claim that crop circles were not man made.

Then what are you saying?

Anyone can claim authorship of a crop circle.

But they rarely do.

Testing on controlled crop circle formation by mechanical means showed none of the evidence I listed.

How can you say this when BLT have constantly refused to test known commissioned crop circles for 'anomalies'
The Oylimpic Rings formation showed most of the 'anomalies' claimed by BLT.

WC Levengood's findings have been duplicated my list to follow.

That should be fun. Is it Hasselhoff's work?

There is no known film of crop artists creating in canola crops.

Why should there be?

Crop formation times were not included on my list nor were complex lays which are also unduplicated by artists either filmed observed or in anyway acertained authorship.

Instead of lists, why not provide evidence to back up the claims in the list?
And as stated, as no one really examines a known man made (commissioned) crop circle, it's not surprising that researchers don't find complex lays in them. When a circle is known to have been man made, it is instantly hand waved away as being pointless to study (willful ignorance).

 

[tsig]

Spawning time in La-la land, I see.

Yes. When a poster comes here and says the circles were not man made to a man who is making them then you know it's Springtime in Delusionville. (small town in La-La land)

 

[Moss]

Silly question that keeps running through my head: Do circlemakers fail to own up to their doings because the farmer that did all the work with those crops might be angry and sue them?

 

[Marduk]

If the crop circle phenomenon is psychic, paranormal, and archetypal.

see thats your problem
it isn't

did you notice that circles only appear in human planted crops, seems to be some kind of link there that I can't quite put my finger on

 

[I Ratant]

There's another "pre-existing condition"..
If the ego-psyche thing is so powerful, why is canola resistant to its efforts?
I'm minded of the schoolyard taunt relating "brains, gunpowder and damage to one's nose", in regarding the power of the collective unconscious.

 

[cyborg]

If the crop circle phenomenon is psychic, paranormal, and archetypal then it is interactive with and responsive to people and so it is inevitably elusive.

Which bits of making a crop circle are psychic, paranormal and archetypal?

Thanks.

IMO you will never nail down the paranormal because it can't be institutionalized, can't be categorized, can't be disproved or proved. Only experienced.

Tell me why you disagree with this statement:

You will never nail down the normal because it can't be institutionalized, can't be categorized, can't be disproved or proved. Only experienced.

 

[carlitos]

It's not that. It's that there is mysticism and mythology involved in the crop circle and UFO phenomenon, which are related. And where there is mysticism and mythology, there are archetypes of the collective unconscious and psi. Including the trickster archetype. And where the trickster goes the paranormal follows, genuine and otherwise. Not enough genuine to push the paranormal out of the margins of society and into the elite, but enough to keep it alive. A balance is preserved. But the balance comes and goes in cycles, it seems.

Well, first off thanks for answering. But your answer contains a whole load of woo in here, my friend.

• You have preconceived excuses for why psi can't be proved. (sheep/goats)
• You believe psi and mysticism and mythology and what-not has something to do with crop circles, and have invented a God (trickster) who has magical properties.
• You cite Jung's collective unconscious in the middle; there's that trickster at work maybe
• "Pushing the paranormal into the elite?" What?
• Balance? Between people who believe magic and reason, perhaps.

I don't know. Maybe it's just a matter of degree.

A much better answer.

The "I don't know" is what led all of the people to assume Gods / psi / myths. You are getting it backwards. People make crop circles as a hobby. That's it. People also do lots of crazy stuff like skydiving, snow boarding, flash mobs. No Trickster God needed. No mythology needed. No psi involved.

You should really take a logic course. I'm guessing that there are some good ones online these days.

 

[Stray Cat]

Silly question that keeps running through my head: Do circlemakers fail to own up to their doings because the farmer that did all the work with those crops might be angry and sue them?

That's only a very small part of it.
The reason the crop circles have a live after they are made anonymously is because of the speculation over their perceived mystical nature.
As I have pointed out as soon as the author is known the bubble is burst and the art dies.

 

[Limbo]

Which bits of making a crop circle are psychic, paranormal and archetypal?

Thanks.

The sort of bits that many circlemakers like Peter Sorensen talk about.

“Surprisingly there is still a LOT of mystery — strange lights in the fields at night, telepathy in the creation of the designs, circle visitors affected profoundly both mentally and physically, and much more. Just because humans are flattening the crop, doesn’t mean that there’s no magic involved. In fact, in a way this just as wonderful — I mean, WE are the ETs! I feel sorry for the people who can’t get that.

“But deeper than that, I’m convinced that some esoteric Muse is working through many of the artists, guiding their work at night. Many great artists, poets and even generals credit the Muse for their inspiration. I think She is an intelligence that that has been looking out for humanity over the millennia, giving us gentle nudges to keep us on the path towards our destiny. That’s why the designs are so powerful that millions of people have had their lives uplifted by these ‘spiritual machines.’ They function similarly to Tibetan mandalas — which are also made by humans under the guidance of something higher. Whether on silk or a field of wheat, simply gazing at mandalas changes you."

See, I've experienced many of those things myself. And more. So I already know telepathy, strange lights, synchronicity, "She" is real. I can see her hand in the crop circle phenomenon.

Tell me why you disagree with this statement:

You will never nail down the normal because it can't be institutionalized, can't be categorized, can't be disproved or proved. Only experienced.

I disagree with that statement because bureaucracy exists.