dudalb
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And it depends on the Porn. SOme kinds of fetish don't involve simulated sex or even nudity.
Bondage and some clothing fetishes come to mind.
Bondage and some clothing fetishes come to mind.
Engaging the services of a prostitute involves contact.
Viewing porn, no.
you cant get AIDS watching porn
For you and others: direct physical contact with the customer (potentially leading to disease and bad neighborhoods and untaxed activity) as opposed to no contact with the customer (potentially leading to taxes paid on purchase, no disease, delivery by mail/ computer so no bad neighborhood). YMMV.![]()
Just from selling your body for sex--something necessary for making hardcore porn. Again, the example of John Holmes.you cant get AIDS watching porn
.You are missing the point. This isn't about the viewer. The porn actress is getting paid for sexual contact with another person. How is that different from prostitution?
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Same as.
But contact prostitution leads to AIDS... among other problems.
So the argument is that since only the people who are having sex for money can be harmed, it's different?The output video is disease free.
And is a lot less expensive.
One can enjoy videos of persons long dead, like Holmes, but not enjoy Holmes as he is today. (Ugh!)
Uh, the question in the OP is not that clear and I interpret it to be asking why is porn legal and prostitution not in countries where that is the case. Assuming that IS the question, I ASSUME the distinction is as I gave it. I do not think any of us have data to verify that but I do suspect it is the case as the primary concern (outside of religious silliness which normally would mean neither is legal) of the law/legistators is likely to be with average citizens/neighborhoods (voters) rather than with the persons involved as actors/prostitutes. Thus, prostitution illegal/persecuted, porn left alone with minor exceptions.And so does the sexual contract that performers are paid to do to produce porn.
For about the third or fourth time now, do you know how John Holmes died?
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So the argument is that since only the people who are having sex for money can be harmed, it's different?
So do you think snuff films should be made legal? After all, only the person killed on the video is hurt. It doesn't hurt someone to see the video.
The problem is, you can't make a snuff video without committing murder. The question the OP is posing is, since you can't make a porn film without paying someone to have sex, why is it legal to do in that situation but not for regular prostitution?
Yes. Same thing that killed Freddy Mercury.And so does the sexual contract that performers are paid to do to produce porn.
For about the third or fourth time now, do you know how John Holmes died?
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So the argument is that since only the people who are having sex for money can be harmed, it's different?
.So do you think snuff films should be made legal? After all, only the person killed on the video is hurt. It doesn't hurt someone to see the video.
.The problem is, you can't make a snuff video without committing murder. The question the OP is posing is, since you can't make a porn film without paying someone to have sex, why is it legal to do in that situation but not for regular prostitution?
Uh, the question in the OP is not that clear and I interpret it to be asking why is porn legal and prostitution not in countries where that is the case.
But Freddy Mercury didn't have sex for money, did he?Yes. Same thing that killed Freddy Mercury.
Except that in most places the latter is legal and the former is not. That's the subject of this thread. What's the logic behind laws that make this distinction?Prostitution or porn are the same thing.
I think you missed the point of the analogy to snuff films. To make a snuff film, you have to commit the crime of murder. To make a porn film, you have to pay people to have sex. (Which is typically how prostitution is defined.)I have no problem with sex and consenting adults. Or depictions thereof.
Murder, naah, it demeans those at the wrong end.
Depictions of murder, Tarantino makes those into porn.
The difference is that porn stars are morally irredeemable anyway so it doesn't matter but let the general male population pay for sex and they'll have no need to go through the effort of getting married leading to the breakdown of the family and hence society as a whole leading to the inevitable destruction of the human race.
It's obvious when you think about it.
Largely I think the dividing line is that in pornography all of the sexually contacting individuals are paid performers. Depending on local laws it does not appear to be illegal to pay two or more individuals to have sex as long as the client is not receiving contact, even without a camera. It certainly is vague and treads dangerous ground. Of course some of the stricter prostitution laws do disallow pornography.
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Except that in most places the latter is legal and the former is not. That's the subject of this thread. What's the logic behind laws that make this distinction?
.I think you missed the point of the analogy to snuff films. To make a snuff film, you have to commit the crime of murder. To make a porn film, you have to pay people to have sex. (Which is typically how prostitution is defined.)
So why is it legal to pay people to have sex when you make porn, but not when you're not making porn?
I also don't have any problem with sex between consenting adults (which would mean you and I would both legalize prostitution). If prostitution were legal, then there would be no logical inconsistency.
I am forced to take a wild guess that you are in your 20's or so (very early 30's at most OR you have never actually been concerned with this topic. I say this because you start with video, which ignores the films produced for home/small group consumptions since ,at least, the early 1900's and pictorial/illustration porn is far older than that - though it was generally socially approved in most, possibly all, cultures during and prior to the Greeks and Romans though in them it was not considered something to be hidden, just another part of life. As silly xtians proliferated, so did the tendency to, from time to time, try to cleanse man's unclean nature - thus laws came and went covering porn in Western Civ's. As did laws controlling/proscribing Prostitution. Both types of laws have tended to weaken over the last thirty years or so (video to Disc transition time) but both types of laws still exist and are, on occasion, enforced - mostly to show who is still in charge in a way that will keep the religious happy and voting republicker or it's equivalent (fascist, national socialist, etc.) [no, I am not Godwining as it is unavoidable that assaults on such material are generally, in Western Civ, done by those on the right (aka wrong) side of things]. {please feel free to provide large scale data proving me wrong - I do not plan to spend time quoting, but I have a very fine library on the subjects of prostitution and pornography as a sociological and psychological object of study, as a political object of study and general and specific historical material on them). I started building this collection in my early teens (well, technically when I was 8 or 9 but....). Anyway, way prior to the very shortlived video period.Largely I think the dividing line is that in pornography all of the sexually contacting individuals are paid performers. Depending on local laws it does not appear to be illegal to pay two or more individuals to have sex as long as the client is not receiving contact, even without a camera. It certainly is vague and treads dangerous ground. Of course some of the stricter prostitution laws do disallow pornography.
In the end it feels like semantics. Prostitution laws appear to predate mass produced video. Even if pornographic videos existed as far back as the technology to do so existed, they were not on the minds of the anti-sex legislators of the day. Prostituion was. So pornography squeaked by on semantics at a time of growig acceptance for sexual based industries and the less direct contact between client and performer.
Proximity.