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Are Tattoos Proof of a Nazi Genocide?

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MaGZ said:
The Hoax of the Twentieth Century is not a comic book.
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No it's not.
ALthough Butz attempts to prove the Holocaust never happened are an unintentional laugh riot to any non batcrap crazy historian.
 
Budly said:
Given that Jews were a small percent of the population in Europe, and given that the Nazis occupied most of Europe at one point. Why not conscript another labor force for the needed work, and then kill the Jews? This is something none of the Believers here can answer.

The answer is this: because there was no extermination program, but Jews were a demographic the Nazis wanted out of the mix of other Europeans.
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No, the answer is you have absolutely no bleeping idea about the history, and don't even seem to have realised that it was Sauckel and the GBA deporting non-Jewish foreign workers to Germany while the SS deported Jews from western, central and south-eastern Europe, to Auschwitz, where some of them were kept alive to work in an SS-run concentration camp.

Thus, the answer is incredibly simple: the SS was not the labour ministry, and did not control labour deployment; the SS was tasked with the Final Solution, and was organising the deportation of Jews anyhow; it also ran concentration camps like Auschwitz that required a substantial labour force for multifarious reasons. So it needed labour. The elegantly simple solution to this conundrum of diverging tasks was to unify them at Auschwitz, keep some able bodied Jews alive, and kill the rest.

I honestly do not understand why you and so many of your brethren persist with this silly strawman repeated yet again above. If every available source - including documents, as well as copious witnesses - has indicated ever since 1945 that the policy was this simple method of selection, then who do you think you are fooling by pointing to the fact that, duh, some Jews were indeed selected for work and thereby kept alive for a time?

Isn't that, you know, precisely what has been claimed all along, ever since 1945, except when deniers feel the urge to prove yet again they have absolutely no bleeping clue about the history?
 
Sorry Nick, being emphatic and complicated does not answer the question.

15 year olds even made the cut for workers. Most people are able bodied workers, who Mengele would have selected for work.

We have Nick saying
the SS was not the labour ministry, and did not control labour deployment; the SS was tasked with the Final Solution,
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Yet we have that "Angel of Death" Josef Mengele on the train tracks, selecting women, even 15 year old girls to work.

Here is the simple question again:

Given that Jews were a small percent of the population in Europe, and given that the Nazis occupied most of Europe at one point. Why not conscript another labor force for the needed work, and then kill the Jews?
 
Budly said:
Given that Jews were a small percent of the population in Europe, and given that the Nazis occupied most of Europe at one point. Why not conscript another labor force for the needed work, and then kill the Jews? This is something none of the Believers here can answer.

The answer is this: because there was no extermination program, but Jews were a demographic the Nazis wanted out of the mix of other Europeans.
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Your question makes no sense. Perhaps you'd like to rephrase it, coherently this time?
 
being emphatic and complicated does not answer the question.
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yes, very complicated isn't it, this holocaust. Better stick to:
if there was a plan for extermination, they should all be dead. Some survived, hence no plan for extermination. simple.
selecting some for slave labour while killing others? way too confusing..

Given that Jews were a small percent of the population in Europe, and given that the Nazis occupied most of Europe at one point. Why not conscript another labor force for the needed work, and then kill the Jews?
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You missed 'Arbeitseinsatz'? and Nicks remark about Sauckel and GBA.
The wikipedia article about it might be a bit long and complicated so I'll give you a relevant quote ;
"The official German records for the late summer of 1944 listed 7.6 million foreign civilian workers and prisoners of war in the territory of the "Greater German Reich", who for the most part had been brought there for employment by force. By 1944, slave labour made up one quarter of Germany's entire work force, and the majority of German factories had a contingent of prisoners."
 
Budly said:
Here is the simple question again:

Given that Jews were a small percent of the population in Europe, and given that the Nazis occupied most of Europe at one point. Why not conscript another labor force for the needed work, and then kill the Jews?
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There's a word you need to familiarize yourself with: senseless. Because the perpetrators of horrors like the Holocaust were insane, most of us cannot fathom why they committed these attrocities. However, just because you can't follow their reasoning does not indicate that the events did not take place.

Do you believe that two people were able to kill people at radom in and around Washington, D.C.? Did the D.C. sniper horror really happen? Do you understand their reasoning? How about the crimes of serial killers such as Ted Bundy? Does that fact that we can't understand why these people did what the did mean murders didn't take place.

Your arguments are silly and you are reaching too far. It almost hurts to watch you struggling to make a point. The effort to deny history must take a lot of time but it's useless. No matter how hard you push a mountain, it will still be there. You need to figure out why it is that you can't accept fact. Reality always wins in the end. You are doomed to ridicule and revulsion from the sane.
 
Budly said:
Here is the simple question again:

Given that Jews were a small percent of the population in Europe, and given that the Nazis occupied most of Europe at one point. Why not conscript another labor force for the needed work, and then kill the Jews?
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Given that women made up such a large percentage of the German population, perhaps as much as 50%, why not use them as a labour force? Britain and America used women workers, why not Germany? It just makes no sense. . . . .
 
Why not use Soviet POW's as a labour force?

Oops, because the Nazis had already starved them to death. That's why some Soviet Jewish labour was kept alive temporarily in the Ukraine: the POW's were dead and the Ukrainian civilians were working in Germany.

Documented facts, not an unbroken chain of unsupported hypotheses that Budly mistakes for an argument.

Holocaust books are available but apparently unread by deniers.
 
MaGZ said:
Do you acknowledge Jews conspired to takeover the comic book industry and brainwash the youth of America into wanting to go to war and fight Hitler and Nazi Germany?
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Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow.


That's...A whole new level of ◊◊◊◊◊◊*, right there.
 
Nazis are not beyond understanding. Change a couple of things and I'm fairly certain that America could be just as bad on as wide a range as Nazi Germany. Figure out what those things are, and you have an understanding of how it was done.

Slimething said:
Do you believe that two people were able to kill people at radom in and around Washington, D.C.? Did the D.C. sniper horror really happen? Do you understand their reasoning? How about the crimes of serial killers such as Ted Bundy? Does that fact that we can't understand why these people did what the did mean murders didn't take place.
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Thanks for demeaning the entire field of criminology. There are people who understand it. :p
 
MaGZ said:
Do you acknowledge Jews conspired to takeover the comic book industry and brainwash the youth of America into wanting to go to war and fight Hitler and Nazi Germany?
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Just... wow. That has to be one of the most silly comments I've ever read.
Also, if you believe that than they abysmally failed. America did not want to go to war with Nazi germany as any competent historian could tell you.
Roosevelt did to some extent, but not enough to declare open war. The Nazies did him a favor by declaring war, as americans do not like being attacked and that is what swung they sentiment to war.
The reports and documentation and personal stories of the horrors perpetratedby the nazies convinced everyone it had indeed been a good idea afterwards.
 
Well if those unfit for work were murdered immediately, that leaves 75? percent of the Jews left. In other words, most people 15-65 could work. So then we're supposed to believe that they were put into jobs to support the war effort, but it was a dastardly plan to starve them at the same time. What kind of work are you going to get out of people like that?

People survived, lived into a ripe old age, could display their Auschwitz tattoo, because there was no Auschwitz extermination plan.
 
People survived, lived into a ripe old age, could display their Auschwitz tattoo, because there was no Auschwitz extermination plan.
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"It's not a True extermination program if people live to tell about it".

Can't argue with that:rolleyes:.
 
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