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I read post 30 not 130 Click lol. Anyway maybe 240-185 wants to do the same analysis with these two clips. A comparison.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsoWbX6hCYk&NR=1 Authentic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1LdQ6DGhpo Fake
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I already did an analysis of the explosions in the first video in #130.
The second video doesn't show any explosion. Moreover, it is published by a truther. So you call "fake" a material posted by one of your mates. How ironic.

This is the first and last time I answer to bill while he's in quoted form.
 
240-185 said:
I already did an analysis of the explosions in the first video in #130.
The second video doesn't show any explosion. Moreover, it is published by a truther. So you call "fake" a material posted by one of your mates. How ironic.

This is the first and last time I answer to bill while he's in quoted form.
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Oh well. I guess I can live with that. Anyway back to business.

As I've said before people are listening less and less to debunker rubbish and are starting more and more to use their own logic and senses.

So on that note I recommend for any reader to listen to the two short videos above and using their own best judgement assess in which video the audio has been tampered with.

I say that the clean and full audio in the video marked 'authentic' has been clearly and obviously degraded and degenerated in the video marked 'fake'. This 'fake' with the explosions removed is the one the government say is the true audio.
 
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bill smith said:
I say that the clean and full audio in the video marked 'authentic' has been clearly and obviously degraded and degenerated in the video marked 'fake'. This 'fake' with the explosions removed is the one the government say is the true audio.
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All right, I'm ashamed to say it took me all day but I finally figure it out. bill's one of those government agents, the disinfo agents we've all been accused of being at one time or another.

Obviously providing solid evidence and fact isn't doing any good. They decided the best way to debunk the conspiracy it to present it in such a ridiculous way not even the craziest tin foil hat wearing nutter believes it.

Cue bill smith, with his generic "every man" nic name. He"s bill smith Average Guy. Pull his strings and out come the most inane theories associated with the conspiracy theory ever contrived.

It's brilliant. bill there is no doubt in my mind now. I know who you're working for. While it's nice to have you working with us, I must admit I'm a little concerned the government has gone to such lengths as employing you for 9/11 counter intelligence.

I hope this doesn't blow your cover, but in light of "Mr. and Mrs Smith" I'm sure you can admit your particular nic name is not very "undercover". I hope your socks are in better order. Toodles.
 
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All right, I'm ashamed to say it took me all day but I finally figure it out. bill's one of those government agents, the disinfo agents we've all been accused of being at one time or another.

Obviously providing solid evidence and fact isn't doing any good. They decided the best way to debunk the conspiracy it to present it in such a ridiculous way not even the craziest tin foil hat wearing nutter believes it.

Cue bill smith, with his generic "every man" nic name. He"s bill smith Average Guy. Pull his strings and out come the most inane theories associated with the conspiracy theory ever contrived.

It's brilliant. bill there is no doubt in my mind now. I know who you're working for. While it's nice to have you working with us, I must admit I'm a little concerned the government has gone to such lengths as employing you for 9/11 counter intelligence.

I hope this doesn't blow your cover, but in light of "Mr. and Mrs Smith" I'm sure you can admit your particular nic name is not very "undercover". I hope your socks are in better order. Toodles.
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I would say 'arcane' not 'inane'' as you do but there you are. lol
 
bill smith said:
I would say 'arcane' not 'inane'' as you do but there you are. lol
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I was actyually thinking "insane."

Have you ever heard Michael Hezarkhani's voice? How do you explain his standing near where those fire fighters were when the tower failed?
 
leftysergeant said:
I was actyually thinking "insane."

Have you ever heard Michael Hezarkhani's voice? How do you explain his standing near where those fire fighters were when the tower failed?
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At 48 seconds hear the guy say Oh my God a plane just crashed into the building. I can not believe it ' Listen to it a few times one after the other. . It just gets more and more surreal with every listening. Something else. I've heard this guy's voice elsewhere in the 9/11 videos. I will find it again at some point. Is that the guy you are talking about Sarge ?.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7PncGkdFPI 5-6
 
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bill smith said:
At 48 seconds hear the guy say Oh my God a plane just crashed into the building. I can not believe it ' Listen to it a few times one after the other. . It just gets more surreal with every listening. Something else. I've heard this guy's voice elsewhere in the 9/11 videos. I will find it again at some point. Is that the guy you are talking about Sarge ?.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7PncGkdFPI 5-6
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That's him. He made his video in Battery Park, from the upper deck of a ferry. What was he doing repeating his same words inside a secured area under the south tower when it collapsed? Why did he bring all those screaming frightened women with him?

Do you see why I question the sanity of anyone who thinks that the one with his voice is the real collapse video?
 
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That's him. He made his video in Battery Park, from the upper deck of a ferry. What was he doing repeating his same words inside a secured area under the south tower when it collapsed? Why did he bring all those screaming frightened women with him?

Do you see why I question the sanity of anyone who thinks that the one with his voice is the real collapse video?
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Remember the woman who said that the FDNY told her they were going to bring down WTC7 ? Well I found her voice elsewhere in the 9/11 videos too. Interesting isn't it ?
 
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bill smith said:
Remember the woman who said that the FDNY told her they were going to bring down WTC7 ? Well I found her voice elsewhere in the 9/11 videos too. Interesting isn't it ?
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She's a deluded tool of the Organization. whoop

You still have not explained why you still believe your own crap about the video of the collapse with Hezarkhani's voice on it is the real deal when he clearly made that recording an hour earlier and a mile or so away.
 
leftysergeant said:
She's a deluded tool of the Organization. whoop

You still have not explained why you still believe your own crap about the video of the collapse with Hezarkhani's voice on it is the real deal when he clearly made that recording an hour earlier and a mile or so away.
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I guess you are talking about the 'authentic' video ? Can you give me a time stamp to look at ? How many seconds in ?
 
OK, I'll do another analysis of the faked audio. But not the way leftysergeant expected :D

Here's the end of the faked audio:

VIDEO4.png


Now, here's the end of the audio to be heard with ears: http://gilou82.free.fr/debunk/fakebooms2.mp3

I copied and pasted the data in the white rectangle twice. The second time by amplifying this sample. We can notice that this voice doesn't say anything intelligible and that it had been poorly cut ("Ah yoo k'-" plus half of the "eh" phoneme, looks like "Are you OK?", but this should have been asked _after_ the complete collapse, not _during_ this collapse). Another evidence that this audio is forged.

Sorry for that quick analysis, but it's 12AM in France right now, so I'm a bit dizzy :boggled:
 
240-185 said:
OK, I'll do another analysis of the faked audio. But not the way leftysergeant expected :D

Here's the end of the faked audio:

[qimg]http://gilou82.free.fr/debunk/VIDEO4.png[/qimg]

Now, here's the end of the audio to be heard with ears: http://gilou82.free.fr/debunk/fakebooms2.mp3

I copied and pasted the data in the white rectangle twice. The second time by amplifying this sample. We can notice that this voice doesn't say anything intelligible and that it had been poorly cut ("Ah yoo k'-" plus half of the "eh" phoneme, looks like "Are you OK?", but this should have been asked _after_ the complete collapse, not _during_ this collapse). Another evidence that this audio is forged.

Sorry for that quick analysis, but it's 12AM in France right now, so I'm a bit dizzy :boggled:
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bill smith said:
I say that the clean and full audio in the video marked 'authentic' has been clearly and obviously degraded and degenerated in the video marked 'fake'. This 'fake' with the explosions removed is the one the government say is the true audio.
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How many times do I have to ask you how you think Hezarkhani's voice ogt on the one you think is real?

And did you notice how, at the end of the clip, the camera gets dropped and the picture discombobulates?

One the one that you call fake, you hear just a bunch of squaking consistant with an audio recording device being damaged. In your sorry excuse for a real clip, we hear Hazarkhani and the screamers.

Are you trying to convince me that you are even less intelligent than I took you to be?
 
leftysergeant said:
How many times do I have to ask you how you think Hezarkhani's voice ogt on the one you think is real?

And did you notice how, at the end of the clip, the camera gets dropped and the picture discombobulates?

One the one that you call fake, you hear just a bunch of squaking consistant with an audio recording device being damaged. In your sorry excuse for a real clip, we hear Hazarkhani and the screamers.

Are you trying to convince me that you are even less intelligent than I took you to be?
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You would have to give me a time stamp on the short video marked 'authentic' above where I can hear his voice. So far I have not heard it. At how many seconds in will I hear his voice ?
 
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Hkhani's voice is edited in at about 0:15. His voice is then cut off, and we here the bit that 240-180 analysed.Then we hear the screamers again.

The editing was to remove Hezarkhani saying "That plane just hit the building." Problem, for the forgers, was that they did not totally edit out the real audio.
 
leftysergeant said:
Hkhani's voice is edited in at about 0:15. His voice is then cut off, and we here the bit that 240-180 analysed.Then we hear the screamers again.

The editing was to remove Hezarkhani saying "That plane just hit the building." Problem, for the forgers, was that they did not totally edit out the real audio.
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In my opinion those voices are not even nearly similar.

Why don't you ask 240 to cut them out and put them side-by-side while adjusting the volumes to match.
 
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bill smith said:
You can say that but the obvious thing to do is get 240 to put the samples side-by-side so the readers can judge for themselves Sarge.
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We know the explosions are fake because the same explosions don't appear on all the other cameras in use that morning.
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There is a long list of other reasons why we know the sounds are fake. You've been told what they are in the past.
 
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