Patricio Elicer
Obsessed with Reality
Correction: He said he saw. Tiny difference in the wording, big difference in the significance.
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Correction: He said he saw. Tiny difference in the wording, big difference in the significance.
Akhenaten
Heretic Pharaoh
Why? What happens if we don't 'think again'? What are the likely consequences of nobody believing a word you say?
Hypothesis 1: UFOs exist.
What a load of garbage. That's not an hypothesis. It's a blatant statement of the bleeding obvious. And you've been told so dozens, if not hundreds of times.
Hypothesis 2: UFOs are aliens.
At least this is an hypothesis. Got any evidence for it?
Nothing you've presented so far is evidence, by the way, so reposting it will only add to the joke this thread has become. Please, go right ahead though, since the valid point has been made that it's educational for the beginners and helpful to have such a weak case to practice on.
Not very well, apparently. Nobody believes you.
Whatever you think may be the reason for that is irrelevant. The bottom line is that your mission has failed, and since you were the only one to whom the mission mattered, you bear this burden alone.
To everyone else it's just infotainment, of no lasting value whatsoever.
As you've been told numerous times, and as you are undoubtedly aware yourself (despite protestations otherwise), a preponderance of rubbish is still just rubbish. Having a bigger pile of rubbish is actually worse, when you think about it.
And maybe you should think about it.
If someone comes here with a single, easily-debunked anecdote about a UFO incident, they might end up feeling a bit foolish, but they'll hopefully learn from it and not make the same mistake again.
You on the other hand, have brought a 'preponderance' of easily-debunked anecdotes, increasing the foolishness to astrophotographical levels, and yet have not availed yourself of the offset of having learned anything.
Not a good look, and pretending to be a dead Pharaoh is the height of credibility, by comparison.
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Not that I don’t trust your sources… but do you have any verifiable reference for the assertion that Betty cash was “reluctant” to provide her car for examination?
There is a “purported” witness to the highway paving being done (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread428048/pg1) but it is merely a “recollection” posted to a blog… do you have any more “solid” or verifiable references to this?
I have NO objection to ANYONE obtaining the medical records of Betty Cash – indeed, I would be personally interested to see them! I am merely interested in the verifiable facts of the case. If anyone is interested, a revealing TRANSCRIPT of taped interview held at Bergstom Air Force Base Law Library Building 2102, 17 August 1981, between Betty Cash, Vicki Landrum, Colby Landrum and representatives of the United States Air Force in the persons of Captain John Camp, Acting Staff Judge Advocate, Captain Terry Davis, Claims Officer, and Miss Pat Wolf, Assistant Claims Officer, conducted 8 months after the incident can be seen here: (http://www.ufocasebook.com/CashLandrum1.html). It makes for some rather compelling reading…
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Akhenaten
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Has the mysterious transformation of anecdotes into data started?
NO? Not a little bit? What a disappointment! LOL.
NO? Not a little bit? What a disappointment! LOL.
Andrew Wiggin
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It requires the crap to reach a certain critical depth, creating enough heat and pressure, and then the bottom-most layer of posts will convert to diamonds. Several hundred more pages should do it. Plenty of fuel for the crap-generation too. From the original list, we've seen just a few cases discussed. This could go on for thousands...
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Do be sure to come right back as soon as you have any credible evidence of this actually happening, OK?
To me this doesn't sound like a very reliable witness. I haven't read it all but some things pop out:
This does not compute. How (and why) can she stand there for a few minutes (saying later ~15 in such an intense heat?
Hmmm...she reported but didn't...
She could count to 23 helicopters very close to the objet but can't say how far away they were (feet, a football field etc.)
Stray Cat
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I'm working from memory here as I haven't read anything about this case for a few years. It may have been a piece written by Bob Pratt that I read that mentioned this.
Again, from memory Betty Cash was asked to bring the car so that photos of the fingerprints could be taken. She said the car was 'downstate' (?) maybe at her sisters or something for some reason. The car was sold very soon after and therefore no photos of the claimed fingerprints melted into the dash were ever taken.
Schuessler claims to have tested the car for radiation and yet took no photos of the fingerprints either... or if he did, he hasn't ever published them.
So if you disagree with my point, please provide some photos of these amazing pieces of physical evidence that don't confirm aliens but will at least confirm Betty Cash's story because at the moment, like every other UFO story, it's lacking verification.
And as much use as an article from Earthfiles then.
Again, it may have been form the same article I read a few years ago.
The claim within the story was that the road the UFO hovered above was burned, yet no photos of the burning were taken. A repair was mentioned within the story and yet no verification of this has been given. It is these (apparent) small points which leads one to believe the event has not been as thoroughly looked into as the UFOlogists would have you believe.
You say this whilst apparently not realising the amount of potentially verifiable stuff that has been completely overlooked by the UFOlogists, which would add credibility to their work had they bothered.
When they don't bother, one had to wonder "why?"
I'll have a look at that later when I get a minute and if I come across the article I remember reading, I'll post a link.
Marduk
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How about a different approach Rroger
using your logic, how many zeros do you have to add up to make one ?
Akhenaten
Heretic Pharaoh
how about a different approach rroger
using your logic, how many zeros do you have to add up to make one ?
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Evolved Wookie
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But...but...but you mean...you're not really a dead Pharaoh? All my illusions have just shattered.
Excuse me a while - I have to go and think things over.
Akhenaten
Heretic Pharaoh
But...but...but you mean...you're not really a dead Pharaoh? All my illusions have just shattered.
Excuse me a while - I have to go and think things over.
Slight misunderstanding here.
I was referring to dead Pharaohs. As there is no evidence (teh body) that Akhenaten actually died, your illusions, which aren't illusions at all, remain supportable.
Ankh udja seneb
Akhenaten is obviously not dead, if he were dead he could not post here.
Anyway, I am back from 3 weeks of no net connection.
Have any evidence of aliens appeared?
I saw some bright red lights in the sky at the exit from the pirate section of the bay of
Aden. They were moving away from the vessel at high speed and making a great noise.
Anyway, I am back from 3 weeks of no net connection.
Have any evidence of aliens appeared?
I saw some bright red lights in the sky at the exit from the pirate section of the bay of
Aden. They were moving away from the vessel at high speed and making a great noise.
RoboTimbo
Hostile Nanobacon
What's a gay rodeo called when it's performed on water?
Akhenaten
Heretic Pharaoh
Your logic is impeccable, as always. I hope others aRre taking notes.
About time too. Missed ya
Have any evidence of aliens appeared?
Back into the jokes already?
Tracer.
Akhenaten
Heretic Pharaoh
'Fun with Submarines', knowing this thread.
Didn't we have an Unidentified Submarine Object bleever a while back?
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Akhenaten
Heretic Pharaoh
'Unloading some ammunition', eh?
That's a novel way of putting it.
Were they helping some pirates to 'load' it aboard their boats?
That's a novel way of putting it.
Were they helping some pirates to 'load' it aboard their boats?
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Sledge
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Why? What is there in anything you've presented that isn't anecdote? Some people saw something and didn't know what it is. In internet vernacular, "cool story, bro" but so what? A cop's car had a dent in it. Ok. And? This isn't evidence, they're barely interesting stories.
Stop. Once more: no one is disputing UFOs exist. We are disputing your interpretation of what they are. You do not need to prove a hypotheis that UFOs exist.
Again, please tell us what your hypothesis is. Perhaps you should go and look at what the word means first.
Ok, you've successfully shown that people sometimes see stuff in the sky and don't know what it is. No one was disputing this, but OK. Now what? Nothing you've put forward proves aliens, and you apparently don't have a case that does, so how does a collection of UFO stories prove aliens? As we've been asking since the beginning, how does a collection of bad evidence combine into a piece of good evidence? Please, explain your reasoning.
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