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Evidence for why we know the New Testament writers told the truth.

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RoboTimbo said:
I'll give it a crack.

Person A is a renowned magician
Person B is a random internet nerd

Person A claims that there is no god and all religion is bunk
Person B claims that there is no god and all religion is bunk

Person C states that both of them are correct and offers you a piece of gum.

Do you:
A. Thank the atheists for playing
B. Hold a gun to person D's head and say you will kill them if they don't believe in your god?

Which do you choose, A or B?
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I reject your hypothetical.
Person D should out of the blue beat up his dog for breaking his random rule he just invented and the dog didn't know about it. Of course, this is acceptable, because he would have beat the dog harder had the dog KNOWINGLY broke the rule.

Don't worry, the dog isn't a slave in this hypothetical.
 
I'm tired of all the word games. Where is the testable evidence? Without it all the word games have no meaning Doc.

Paul

:) :) :)
 
DOC said:
The origin of the Big Bang can't be explained by the laws of physics (at least according to the World Book Encyclopedia). So are all people who believe in the Big Bang nutbars.
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That would be because, if I understand the theory correctly, the laws of physics didn't exist until after the Big Bang. You couldn't even talk about "after the Big Bang" until after the Big Bang.
 
I'm beginning to think that the "dolous" that Jesus condones the beating of is more accurately translated as "dead horse" :D
 
Elizabeth I said:
That would be because, if I understand the theory correctly, the laws of physics didn't exist until after the Big Bang. You couldn't even talk about "after the Big Bang" until after the Big Bang.
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the best way I can think of to explain it (and I am far from an expert) is that in order to have a before/after, you must have time. Since time also began at the big bang, to discuss events before the big bang is complete nonsense.
 
DOC said:
Let's say a teacher of history since this thread is in the history section and Ramsay said Luke was one of the world's greatest historians.
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You are still claiming that Ramsey's OPINION about the author of Luke is EDVIDENCE that the things that Ramsey himself said were NOT SUPPORTED BY EVIDENCE. So to reword this a littel bit... Ramsey says, I have confirmed fact A as stated by Luke, however fact B cannot be confirmed. DOC says aha, Since fact A is true this supports Fact B. It doesn't work that way.
 
DOC said:
The origin of the Big Bang can't be explained by the laws of physics (at least according to the World Book Encyclopedia). So are all people who believe in the Big Bang nutbars.
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*Snork*


I will say, if I heard a cosmologist claiming that they saw someone levitating yesterday, I would consider them a nutbar.
 
X said:
I can't.
There isn't enough information.

Before you go off claiming that I am incapable of answering a simple question, or that I'm dodging it, read carefully...

This is a skeptics website, DOC.

We tend to be wary of logical fallacies.

As has been pointed out, argument from authority (i.e. your repeated claims that Luke is somehow more trustworthy because Ramsay said so) is a fallacy.

Just because person A was described as trustworthy by some other person does not mean they are telling the truth.

Especially when claiming something like levitation, which has never been proven possible...
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Actually levitation has been proven possible if we are to believe NASA so skeptics should answer my simple hypothetical question by choosing Person A or Person B- who would you pick as being more likely to be telling the truth?

http://www.popsci.com/scitech/article/2009-09/nasa-levitates-mouse
 
X said:
I can't.
There isn't enough information.

Before you go off claiming that I am incapable of answering a simple question, or that I'm dodging it, read carefully...

This is a skeptics website, DOC.

We tend to be wary of logical fallacies.

As has been pointed out, argument from authority (i.e. your repeated claims that Luke is somehow more trustworthy because Ramsay said so) is a fallacy.

Just because person A was described as trustworthy by some other person does not mean they are telling the truth.

Especially when claiming something like levitation, which has never been proven possible...
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Actually levitation has been proven possible if we are to believe NASA so skeptics should answer my simple hypothetical question by choosing Person A or Person B- who would you pick as being more likely to be telling the truth?

http://www.popsci.com/scitech/article/2009-09/nasa-levitates-mouse

Here is my hypothetical question again that has not been answered with person A or person B.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=5524787#post5524787
 
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DOC said:
Actually levitation has been proven possible if we are to believe NASA so skeptics should answer my simple hypothetical question by choosing Person A or Person B- who would you pick as being more likely to be telling the truth?

http://www.popsci.com/scitech/article/2009-09/nasa-levitates-mouse
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This link doesn't point to "someone" levitating. The religious fundie gunman is still a nutbar. Will you answer my hypothetical now?
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5525549#post5525549
 
RoboTimbo said:
I'll give it a crack.

Person A is a renowned magician
Person B is a random internet nerd

Person A claims that there is no god and all religion is bunk
Person B claims that there is no god and all religion is bunk

Person C states that both of them are correct and offers you a piece of gum.

Do you:
A. Thank the atheists for playing
B. Hold a gun to person D's head and say you will kill them if they don't believe in your god?

Which do you choose, A or B?
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I choose A, see that was easy, one has to wonder why skeptics can't or won't answer my simple "hypothetical" question (post 9152) with Person A or Person B.
 
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DOC said:
I choose A, see that was easy, one has to wonder why skeptics can't or won't answer my simple "hypothetical" question (post 9152) with Person A or Person B.
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People have answered, you've just refused to accept the answer of "neither" for no good reason that I can tell.

(Not to mention the fact that you've got so many twists and turns that the adjective "simple" just doesn't apply.)
 
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DOC said:
I choose A, see that was easy, one has to wonder why skeptics can't or won't answer my simple "hypothetical" question with Person A or Person B.
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I think it's been explained already. Your hypothetical is nonsense because you have presumed that the religious nutbar holding the gun actually will use it based on his belief in levitation of people (or some equally nutty belief).

I'm relieved that you chose A in my hypothetical. It was a pretty easy one without the miraculous baggage that yours had.
 
Cleon said:
People have answered, you've just refused to accept the answer of "neither" for no good reason that I can tell.
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He has a "good" reason. It would show his argument to be complete and utter garbage. He doesn't realize that he doesn't have to acknowledgment it to be a fact.
 
Cleon said:
I think we'd need a century-old dead archaeologist to say that it's been answered for DOC to accept the possibility.
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Person A "The Pope": I can fly with my fart if DOC smells my ass.
Person B "Timmy "onehanded" Pron": I can fly with my fart if DOC smells my ass

Person C: Someone needs to go to go to the nuthouse. DOC, smell someone's ass or you can go home and have a cup of tea.

So DOC, do you smell Person's A or B's ass?
 
DOC said:
I choose A, see that was easy, one has to wonder why skeptics can't or won't answer my simple "hypothetical" question (post 9152) with Person A or Person B.
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Here you go DOC:

9153, 9155, 9159, 9163, 9164, 9170, 9173, 9174, 9175, 9176, 9192, 9193, 9195, 9196, 9198, 9199, 9201, 9209, 9212, 9214, 9215, 9216, 9219, 9220.

Are you in the same thread everyone else is?
 
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