Sword_Of_Truth
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Israel Honors Victims of 9/11
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1)My guess would be to blame the mass murder on evil Arabs
2)The Russian Ashkanazis were no more "indigenous" to Palistine that the Brits or the Norweigians.
3)Oh no!! How can I go on without you?
I'm Irish and so is Charles Manson....I think he is a murderer and an evil man. Does that make me an Irish hater or an anti-mickite?
Benjamin Freedman exemplified what being a Jew is really about. Honor, ethics, integrity...You should look him up and try to live up to your birthright.
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I disagree, actually, and this is a good example of people reading what they want to read, rather than what is actually there. It's obvious, in the context of the passage, that the appropriate translation is "wise guidance" and not "cunning", "trick" or "deception". In fact, when I looked up a Hebrew dictionary it didn't even list any of these words as synonyms under the entry for "wise" which makes me question the claim in the first place.
Both of the passages used for the Mossad motto are dealing with advice and not with deception or trickery, but exactly the opposite. This is, of course, completely in keeping with an intelligence agency as their primary duty is to provide those who wage war with accurate information so that they can wage war more effectively - or in other words their duty is to provide them with good counsel.
Anything to do with trickery or deception is a far better motto for a Special Forces unit, not an intelligence agency.
Sword_Of_Truth
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It would if you thought that the Irish were behind 9/11 when there is no evidence.
If Ben Freedman were alive, he wouldn't like you saying that about him.
A.) I did. He really REALLY hated jews.
B.) What do you mean by "my birthright"?
TJM
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Allow me:
JMH believes you're jewish because only a jew would defend them. It's just like he believes I worship satan because I live in San Francisco.
Carry on.
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Sword_Of_Truth
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Surely you are jesting?
Ironic how the people who are the most anti-semitic know the least about anti-semitism, ain't it?
I wouldn't be surprised if JMH didn't know that anti-semites killed six million jews back in the 1940s in Europe.
I confused Benjamin Freidman with Henry H Klein....my mistake.
http://www.henrymakow.com/henry_h_klein_jewish_martyr_fo.html
I wouldn't be surprised if S_O_T was unaware of the fact that the Jewish dominated anti Christian Bolcheviks of the USSR killed 50 million people and destroyed and stamped out Christianity in the most populous Christian nation, (Russia) after murdering the Christian Czar and his entire family in cold blood. (Who was in charge of that operation?) I guess those 50 million don't count....When do we get to see the 500 feature length movies about that debaucle or visit their museums of tolerance? I guess that would be anti-semitic...
ElMondoHummus
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That's not the only mistake you made in this thread. You also used a term implying abundance in a place where a term signifying null value should be.
"Ample" =/= zero.
Sword_Of_Truth
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Right... communism as a jewish plot nonsense.
Are you trying to keep us from taking you seriously?
Regarding "ample" evidence of Israeli involvement in false flag attack of 911........
http://www.historycommons.org/timel...nd_9/11=israel&timeline=complete_911_timeline
Zero evidence? I think not. I don't just spoon up the neoCON government line like you do. Wise up champ.
TJM
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Just in case you're wondering, ElMondoHummus is neither a skunk or santa claus.
http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v14/v14n1p-4_Weber.html
excerpt:
"Although officially Jews have never made up more than five percent of the country's total population, they played a highly disproportionate and probably decisive role in the infant Bolshevik regime, effectively dominating the Soviet government during its early years. Soviet historians, along with most of their colleagues in the West, for decades preferred to ignore this subject. The facts, though, cannot be denied.
With the notable exception of Lenin (Vladimir Ulyanov), most of the leading Communists who took control of Russia in 1917-20 were Jews. Leon Trotsky (Lev Bronstein) headed the Red Army and, for a time, was chief of Soviet foreign affairs. Yakov Sverdlov (Solomon) was both the Bolshevik party's executive secretary and -- as chairman of the Central Executive Committee -- head of the Soviet government. Grigori Zinoviev (Radomyslsky) headed the Communist International (Comintern), the central agency for spreading revolution in foreign countries. Other prominent Jews included press commissar Karl Radek (Sobelsohn), foreign affairs commissar Maxim Litvinov (Wallach), Lev Kamenev (Rosenfeld) and Moisei Uritsky.6
Lenin himself was of mostly Russian and Kalmuck ancestry, but he was also one-quarter Jewish. His maternal grandfather, Israel (Alexander) Blank, was a Ukrainian Jew who was later baptized into the Russian Orthodox Church.7
A thorough-going internationalist, Lenin viewed ethnic or cultural loyalties with contempt. He had little regard for his own countrymen. "An intelligent Russian," he once remarked, "is almost always a Jew or someone with Jewish blood in his veins."
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Sword_Of_Truth
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Well, he meant who was responsible except for them.
ElMondoHummus
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Yes. Zero evidence. And I agree; you don't just spoon up neoCON
lines, you choose other things to blindly chant. You still don't demonstrate critical thought in your posts. Folks: For the record, one of the pieces of "evidence" his link brings up is the "Israeli art students" spy ring charges. *Yawn*... so 2007. Don't confuse abundance of blather with abundance of evidence. I can whack the keyboard randomly and product a thousand pages of text, but that wouldn't be literature. And I can also play the "stick Israelis and politicians in the same paragraph blathering about a plot" game, but that doesn't count as evidence, at least not by rational definitions. Wake me when you cite something credible. In the meanwhile, you can go hang out with MaGZ and the rest of the "Israeli = Guilty of Anything and Everything crowd".
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You're both wrong
(Or right, depending.)"Tachbulot" can mean both trickery and deceit OR "wise counsel" or "cunning" OR numerous related things. Like many words in biblical Hebrew, the meaning of the noun (sig. tachbula, tachbulot is the plural...) is much 'wider' than that of most English words. In modern Hebrew it can even mean 'chess combination'.
But the real reason that people chose this as a motto for the Mossad is very simple: official Israeli organs usually have, for obvious reasons, mottos taken from the bible. This quote was chosen simply because it that mentions both "war" and "cunning" (or "wise counsel" or "deceit") in an appropriately "positive" manner, and sounds nice. (One would hardly have as its motto something like, "The Assyrians, having captures Jerusalem in war by cunning"...).
You see this in many Israeli organs. In IDF basic training one of the slogans one always sees is Le'Lamed b'ney Yehuda Keshet -- "to teach the sons of Judah to use the bow" -- which does not mean we had any training in archery.
To use the exact meaning of the word tachbulah in a motto taken from the bible for PR reasons as "proof" of its nefarious nature makes as much sense as to think that the motto Honi soit qui mal y pense in the British coat of arms means they invented thought-control mind-rays.