...Richard Gage destroyed by Kim Hill
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bill smith
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Mistakes....never happened before....lessons learned....etc....lol
right. cause in your world, mistakes and rare events are signs of a vast NWO conspiracy theory. right?
i know this will soon be in AAH, but oh well.
I guess in the world of the debunkers the very same specific mistake occurs across the board, simultaneously, with different major news agencies.
Or, all the major news agencies are parroting the same exact source.
When you argue one inconsistency they'll spin to the other inconsistency. What else have they got?
DGM
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Actually bill I do think your making a difference. Just not the way you think. Keep up the good work!
on a crazy day, with crazy things happening all the time, fear at an all-time high, no one knowing what is really going on, and news people wanting to be the first with the big scoop?
yep. believe it.
"Reuters is reporting WTC 7 has collapsed. Quick, put it on a our scroll bar!!!!"
"Hey, BBC is reporting WTC 7 has collapsed, get in on our bar quickly!!!"
profit motive, and wanting the big scoop, and knowing **** about the situation.
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DGM
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The stupid part is they think the "perps" would send out a script in the first place.
Perp #1: Let's see.......let's make a super secret plan and tell all kinds of people about.
Perp #2: Brilliant Idea!
BigAl
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As I see it, 10s of thousands of first responders would have to get their scripts days in advance. All the scripts would be different. The scripts would tell the participant to do sometime obviously illegal as far as manipulating evidence on 9/11 goes.
The would all have to play their roll to perfection. the BBC newsreader lady blew it. Of the many thousands, she's the only one.
And nobody asked why beforehand or blew the whistle afterwords.
bill smith
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Here's a nice picture of Kim Hill, Queen of the Debunkers.
http://images.google.nl/imgres?imgu...=/images?q=kim+hill+nz+radio&gbv=2&hl=en&sa=G
http://images.google.nl/imgres?imgu...=/images?q=kim+hill+nz+radio&gbv=2&hl=en&sa=G
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ElMondoHummus
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News agencies using the same source is common practice! Look at the sports page after today's football games, and see how many of them use the Associated Press stories as initial writeups!
Tying to say that multiple agencies making the same mistaken report is some sign of a conspiracy betrays a severe ignorance of how news reporting works. How many news sources reported that the Fort Hood shooter was dead initially? Was that the result of a "script" too?
Take the time to understand how things work before you fire off. You look ignorant when you don't put the effort in.
ETA: On top of that, what's the argument here? That Reuters was "in on it"? Seriously? A British news agency? The conspiracy got bigger all of a sudden.
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yes. a secret NWO news script. forged in the fires of Mount Doom, in the Land of Mordor.
alienentity
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Hi MM,
Once again you are incorrect. The author recognized that the forum was not being properly moderated, and as such, personal attacks were being allowed.
Also, out of all the truthers on that forum who responded to the videos, probably only one of them was even close to addressing the problems with David Chandler's video and its claims. The rest preferred to deflect away from the issue, and even resorted to desperate personal attacks, plus sweeping and utterly false statements about debunkers.
When presented with clear, factual rebuttals, the truthers retreated into name-calling and obfuscation, so the author decided not to waste any further time with them.
Your message, while an unfair and inaccurate representation designed as a taunt, was actually one of the more lucid attempts at making a point, and so I responded to it.
In fact you have been one of the most civil truthers I've encountered. It's also too bad I had to cut short my discussion with Headspin, which was halfway interesting (after he/she had calmed down and stopped leaping to false conclusions about my removal of part of Chandler's clip - which btw appears immediately afterwards without the edit in my video).
Any of those persons is free to make a comment here on the thread I created for my videos, or directly on my channel. I've already warned them that if they act like jackasses, I'll remove their comments. Got a problem with that?
You listen. Your version of the so-called truth has changed multiple times now and still the likes of you just keeps rolling right along with it, never questioning it, with the same kind of scrutiny you question alternative theories. You should try to keep up with some of your friends here and reinvent yourself with a new logon even though you haven't been banned yet. Or maybe you already have? I really don't care. If we are so wrong, so ridiculous, and so irrelevant then why do you bother?
Why DO YOU BOTHER? Every frigging day now. For years.
DGM
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Distractions from the real questions you can't seem to come up with?
um, why do 9-11 Truthers keep coming here and try to get us to stop tearing apart their "work"?
why do they keep coming here at all? they know this sub-forum is filled with folks who do NOT believe in 9-11 Truth sillyness, yet they keep coming here to attempt to convince us otherwise, or to just mock us.
so the real question for Algebra34 is...why do YOU bother?
Is that a good thing for a debunker and his story? Thank You
one of the key sources of news for 9-11 Truth, Prisonplanet, posts false interviews with President Obama, posts BS stories about thousands of dead Ukranians killed from H1N1, and announces that "you should buy gold right now!!!"
is that a good thing for a truther and his story? Thank you.
No its just a statement of fact.
ElMondoHummus
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Yes. It's called "progression of knowledge". We let facts inform our sense of what occurred. This is evident in our early advocacy of the diesel fuel proposition regarding WTC 7, which came from the initial FEMA report, but upon further investigation turned out to be incorrect, as most of the diesel was recovered and wouldn't have contributed much to begin with. Furthermore, we've progressed from thinking that FL77 was in a primary radar blind zone when it turns out that was not the case, that the jet was in fact under coverage the entire way, and it was an artifact of how primary radar data is accessible that accounted for the initial impression.
Progression of knowledge. It's how astronomy moved from Ptolemaic cosmology to Copernican and further up to modern astronomy. People build on knowledge, and allow facts to shape understanding of topics and events.
Contrast that to the conspiracy peddlers. You guys are still stuck on explosives and thermite. Where's the critical reasoning there?
The fact is, the narrative gets refined according to the discovery of more knowledge, and certainty increases. At the same time, certainty regarding the rejection of alternate proposals decrease with that accumulation of knowlede. The fact that the story gets more refined and continually grows to emcompass more observations is a sign of the strength of observation-based accumulation of knowledge. That you fail to see this is sad, but unfortunately typical of conspiracy advocates.